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QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 12:49 PM) He should take some of TFlow's AB's , and probably a few more than he has, but his health is definitely a limiter, and his defense is debatable. He's been very under-utilized as a DH, imo, and they gotta squeeze every run they can out of their lineups. His defense isn't any worse than Flowers'. But Flowers is Cooper's butt boy so he starts 6 times a week despite being a .5 WAR player over the course of his Sox career.

How long until sweet swinging Carlos Sanchez passes Flowers in OPS? I'm guessing by the end of the series.

QUOTE (Mike F. @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 09:59 PM) This has to be one of the biggest game threads in a long time. stir the drink!

what's gotten into this bunch? damn.

time to move sanchez up in the order.

IBB dumb decision there imo.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 08:47 PM) Whenever there's ANY pressure or expectation placed on this team and organization, they just crumble. 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012...this year after the All-Star Break, they had a huge opportunity to recapture their fans and re-engage their interest again. Now, they have this game handed to them on a platter and they quickly blow a 4-0 lead. lol

good to see the team back to normal, ffs.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 06:48 PM) Panda hasn't slimmed down at all. Nope and in spring there was a well passed along story about how he didn't like the GIants asking him to come into camp in better shape and how he was enjoying eating all the food now that he was a Red Sox. never really understood how pro athletes can't slim down. It's your f***ing job and yyou have all the resources. Some guys can carry the weight when they are young but once you hit 30...

QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 06:36 PM) Where's greg to tell us how great Danks is? He now has like 500 innings post injury and he's been about replacement level according to B-Ref and slightly better according to Fangraphs. Some people don't understand sample size and baseball. Greg is one of them. Yes he can throw good games -- but he's a s*** pitcher.

I'm not sure WTF has gotten into this team but I am enjoying it.

His contract is a drop in the bucket, especially when compared to the revenue from a WC berth. Bench his ass and trade him if you can, including paying some of his freight. I'm still pissed Flowers is playing 5 nights out of 7 wtf.

I'm so happy to see Rodon and Sanchez out there leading the charge today. If the Sox are going to have a sustained run of success it would behoove them to find another good starter and a solid starting 2B -- looks like that could happen. Sanchez has almost battled back to replacement level after that brutal start. I still think he's a 1 to 2.5 WAR player long term and IMO they need to bring Micah up, let him DH, and try and apprentice Sanchez the best he can while getting a start once a week at 2B. As for Rodon, obvious he didn't have close to his best stuff but what he did have was decent command on all three of his pitches. Hey, you don't have to throw 97, it helps, but you can certainly be effective without it, especially as a lefty. Hell, look no further than Q. _____________________ Exciting times and that's all you can ask for as a fan. Season is still a disapointment to this point and probably will be in the end -- but at least they are showing some signs. Avi and Laroche are problems but at least they only have 2 holes instead of 4-5 currently. Avi you let get his 600 PA and then another 600 next year and see what happens but Laroche needs to be benched. The Sox never admit sunk costs tho. Another arm chair GM suggestion is to bring up Thompson and let him split time in RF with Avi, where Avi gets to DH some and Laroche is moved to the bench. Jose seems to be playing a decent 1B anyways.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jul 22, 2015 -> 08:34 PM) At least Viciedo hit for power, Avi doesn't do anything well. Viciedo's lifetime ISO is under .150. He "hit for power" about as well as Avi "hits for average". If that's your strong suit and you suck at everything else, you better do it at an elite level.

Avi Garcia sucks but he needs at least another 500 PA before the Sox sell on him. '16 doesn't look like a contender anyways.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 22, 2015 -> 04:02 PM) Erik Johnson should be in the rotation within the next week. He's 100% earned the shot. Since they're not going to eat the money on Danks, Danks can start in the rotation next year and then Carson takes his place sometime early in the year assuming the normal White Sox like progression. That's when Danks finally moves to the bullpen and we near the end. It's still not a very competitive roster since Rodon will be a still-learning sophomore and there will be a rookie and a rookie and a half, but you give the guys a chance to pitch through their difficulties as youngins for the next season+ and maybe, just maybe, by 2017 we have a really strong rotation where everyone is young and still has a good amount of experience. I just shake my head. If that happens they deserve the 10k average they will get next year.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jul 22, 2015 -> 02:26 PM) The Sox get a comp pick if Jeff walks, and they shouldn't accept a return that doesn't contain a player with at least as much upside as that comp pick would have, and I'm 100% fine with not trading him at all if that kind of offer doesn't come. Any "B" prospect in high A ball or higher is better than the comp pick. It's a low bar to clear. If they can't at least get that for him than they f***ed up.

QUOTE (BrianAnderson @ Jul 22, 2015 -> 02:10 PM) Disclaimer: Don't read if you don't want the game ruined for you when Soto is catching... Has anybody ever noticed how he throws the ball back to the pitcher?? It's so uncoordinated. He pushes off the wrong knee. It's one of those things that you dont notice, but when you do, you can't un-notice and becomes extremely annoying.. No nobody has ever noticed! I'm sorry, it's been pointed out numerous times, beat to death really. Fact is the guy is the best catcher the Sox have and he plays not nearly enough. I don't care if he walks the ball back the mound.

Hey fun with selective endpoints and meaningless stats in isolation like HR/year! Goodness. Anyone that watches the Sox realizes the guy has lost not just a step, but a couple steps the last few seasons. He's toast. If anything he gets a dead cat bounce back to 1 WAR next season. Trade him for a bag of balls literally anyone except Tim Anderson would be better to play there the next 60 odd games including Saladino and Sanchez.

QUOTE (Vance Law @ Jul 20, 2015 -> 11:06 PM) Beckham was picked up to be a platoon-mate and defensive sub at third base. He's a better infielder than Bonifacio who ultimately became an insurance policy at various positions due to his inability to do any one thing well other than pinch run. Beckham got the defense part down. you could have stopped there...beckham is no platoon mate for Conor. You can make an argument for him as the 25th man but beyond that full stop.

I would have to think some team picks him up. Just really begs the question why beckham is still (and ever was) on this roster. That said, hard to get too excited about the end of the roster when it's the front that has really under performed. Conor seems rather frail and weak for a pro player, he needs to find some PEDs.

Sanchez over the last month has quietly been doing what he needs to do at the dish to stick as a MLB regular.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 17, 2015 -> 11:16 PM) Forgot about that, heads. They very well could keep him then as a draft pick probably will be more valuable at the trade deadline than the scraps they get for Shark. My bad on that. I forgot about the draft pick. But put yourself in their position. It's their jobs/reputations on the line in the front office. You and I may want them to dump everybody and get what they can NOW but Hahn and Kenny and Bell and the scouts still have a 'chance' to get a wild card (in their eyes). If they do get a wild card, then they are Billy Beane-type geniuses in their offseason moves. You and I both know what actually is gonna happen ... nothin. Team may tread for a bit; may not. But we all know that 1-9 stretch on the road is comin sooner or later to blast this thing into oblivion. The comp pick is likely to be 40ish, that's no great shakes really. Even a single "B" prospect and an interesting A ball arm is better.

I'm not sure if the sox are any good, but at least they will be interesting.

QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Jul 17, 2015 -> 04:40 PM) I wonder if Hahn still considers him "untouchable?" Avi was supposed to be Hahn's crown jewel acquisition and the guy he wanted to build the team around. Would have been better off with Iglesias. Funny because everything about Avi screams "KW". He's a pure KW player.