chitownsportsfan

With the stuff coming out about tanking in the NFL you gotta wonder how prevalent it's been in MLB the past few seasons. Have owners offered to pay management to lose games? With the local ticket revenues not nearly as important anymore and the revenue sharing MLB has created a scenario where yes, I think "broken" is a good description. Tanking might be a legit strategy for SOME clubs in SOME situations but too often it's just an excuse not to spend any money and just rake in the guaranteed revenue. And of course as you mentioned the other component to tanking is service time manipulation. How convenient is it for the owners that they can (literally) afford to keep their best prospects off the team and save money at the same time? A little too convenient. I'm not exactly rooting for an entire season to be wiped out because I'm a fan of baseball and I enjoy baseball but if that is what it takes to fix these issues maybe it will be worth it.

Right, that was their plan the entire time, I don't think anybody is surprised. I posted a couple weeks ago how dire I feel the situation is. Nothing has changed since then to move me off the idea that at best we'll play 100 games and there is a decent (so maybe 1/3) chance the entire season is cancelled.

Yea, the owners are fucking this up. A big reason is that Manfred isn't removed enough (unlike say Silver) from the ownership cabal to look them in the eye and tell them that they are going to kill the golden goose.

Why in gods name haven't they already worked out the non core stuff???? We will be lucky to play 100 games.

It's easy to "make progress" when you're as far apart as these sides appear to be. I expect negations to completely break down as we get closer to March and probably there will be plans for replacement players before the union comes back to the table in April or so. On a selfish personal note this time of year is so hard on so many folks including myself. With the COVID surge it's been especially trying and usually we'd be full of excitement for pitcher and catchers in two weeks with everything to look forward to as a playoff contender once again. So much for all that.

Season will start in June or possibly even be cancelled. The entire process so far has indicated that owners are completely fine with that. Question is if the players are. Unless they cave completely I'm just seeing it they aren't the NFLPA.

Reddit and twitter level discourse. Cya guys whenever the business of baseball starts again. Oof.

bro he's the starting RF!

I mean, if you want to b**** about allocation of resources you can start and end with the bullpen. Paying your primary backup at CF and SS 5.5 million per is not the place to start.

Good deal, that is a very club friendly AAV. Frankly I think he could have gotten another 5-6 million total on the open market. Seems like he took a little discount to come back to familiar grounds.

well that's on you -- OWNERSHIP

What's the AAV? I feel like if they gave him three years they should get a discount on AAV. Anything more than 18 million and I'm iffy. If they got him for 3/18 or something that's fine. But 3/22 or something feels like an overpay. I know we're "just" talking 2-4 million here and what's the difference but for the end of roster types that shit adds up and can prevent other moves.

Yea exactly. 2 years 85 million with a club option for a 3rd is a helluva lot better. That they had to include the opt out -- who the fuck were they bidding against at that AAV and those years?

there isn't a chance he opts out, the Mets played themselves.

the mets are a clown org.

this time of year you might find yourself doing a little "kummerspeck"

that's about where I'm at.

that's where I'm at. At the same time what other options are out there? He seems to have built some trust with the players I don't know if there is a better move available. A lateral move does nothing.

excellent post, I agree the biggest problem with the plan, and maybe it was a decent plan, we'll never know the best plan, but the problem was ditching the changeup. I never felt he had a feel for his stuff after the hamstring. Maybe that was the injury, maybe it was lack of usage, maybe it was both or something else or whatever. Post more.

They fucked it up. Babied him too much.

You will never see a 6 man rotation. Too much disruption to the routine. Now I would start using Kopech and Crochet as headliners. These guys need innings man. Kopech was coddled all year and instead of peaking he was arguably at his worst at the end. That plan didn't work.

Watch Bulls and Michigan?

Rays got defeated too. Sometimes you just don't look good in a short series. That said, Sox clearly have major holes. Getting a defensive catcher, a starting RF and more SP are at the top of the list.

Bad body language, team has packed it in.

Yea, he's failed. I've said all year it's pass fail based on post season. Well he failed. Thanks for the division title and a fun regular season, but you failed to have the team ready and made some questionable decisions as well.