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QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 20, 2014 -> 05:22 PM) You guys are still crazy if you think it's just gonna be Boozer and a 1st. There will be more pieces to make salaries and such work. One thing I haven't figured out is how much you're allowed to inflate/backload a contract to get around the cap limit. Could the Bulls conceivably offer him $16 mil this year and $22 million every other year of the deal and pull things off that way, with Melo only giving up

QUOTE (oldsox @ Jun 20, 2014 -> 05:00 PM) You and many others in this thread are being too logical. That can get you in trouble. Ask any marriage counselor. Boras has a history of not being logical, just greedy. His history with White Sox also shows a hint of vindictiveness. Not sure where it started. My logic, which is often flawed, says that Rodon would be better taking the money now and getting to work instead of drinking beer, eating potato chips, and whatever else 21 year olds do these days. Boras has a history of being greedy, you're right, and that's why Rodon will sign, because it is absolutely the right financial decision to do so. Given that he already worked a full season and there was talk of him being overworked, there's also no reason to rush into it.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 20, 2014 -> 04:36 PM) That would be insane. TBH, I looked back at Lebron's S&T with Cavs. They actually gave up 5 picks total, with zero leverage as well. I thought we'd actually have to give up a bit of a package for this. IIRC that sign and trade was almost entirely done for salary reasons, but the details escape me.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jun 20, 2014 -> 03:58 PM) The entire post-invasion plan (or lack thereof) was pretty awful. De-Ba'athification and the dismantling of the Iraqi military were really poor decisions. I don't think you can overstate just how horribly that whole process was managed. I don't think that if everything had been done perfectly as described on gold tablets handed down from an omnipotent deity that it would have turned out much better than this. When you hit a hornet's next with a baseball bat it doesn't matter whether the bat is wooden or aluminum, the results are likely to involve stinging.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 20, 2014 -> 03:39 PM) I'm sure the Newark Bears will be looking for a washed up third baseman. Can they afford his contract?

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Jun 20, 2014 -> 02:58 PM) I would expect about the same time Abreu signed last season. Isn't he about a month or two ahead of his pace?

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 20, 2014 -> 02:37 PM) I just want to point this post out again. Last 5 starts - 35.1 IP, 24 H, 9 BB, 21 K, 2 HR, 1.51 ERA, 0.93 WHIP, .188/.262/.297/.559, .210 BABIP There is a lot of noise in those numbers, but there's also a lot of luck. However, worth mentioning far more - and an alarming number - are the LD%/GB%/FB% (respectively listed below) numbers in those starts NYY - 8.3%/50.0%/41.7% SD - 18.2%/54.5%/27.3% LAD - 12.5%/50.0%/37.5% DET - 23.8%/19.0%/57.1% SF - 23.8%/23.8%/52.4% He has been giving up a ton of line drives and fly balls. That doesn't need an eye test to tell you that those will turn into a blow up sooner rather than later. The first 3, yes, it's completely understandable why he pitched so well, especially against New York, but Detroit and San Francisco hit him around pretty good and he needs to start throwing more ground balls. On the other hand though, if you go through his full season numbers, thanks to the "lots of luck" the last 5 games, his total season numbers are starting to look an awful lot like "pre-injury John Danks". Line drive percentage overall is better than it was in 2008 - not Danks's best year in that but tolerable. Home run rate has returned to normal after skyrocketing last year. Strikeout rate is a tick worse than his normal seasons but a big upgrade from the last 2 years. His BABIP on the season is ~0.015 lower than it has been on average through his career. He could benefit from getting the ball on the ground a little more, I'll agree, but I disagree with your statement that "those will turn into a blowup sooner than later" on the grounds that we've already seen them turn into blowups this season and although he may have gotten a little lucky during that 5 game stretch, his numbers on the season suggests that the luck you're referring to is balanced fairly well by a few poor luck games over the previous month.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Jun 20, 2014 -> 01:14 PM) Who cares? For that asking price it is worth having a season and a half of David Price plus the first round pick that you will receive when he reaches FA. The market for Price is down given that teams are becoming ultra protective of their prospects. That is the reason that Price was not traded in the offseason, no one would give up what the Rays wanted so they are going to try and increase their leverage at the trade deadline this season. Every start he makes for TB lessens his value as thats one more start his new team is not getting from him. Keep in mind, decent chance you'd get a 2nd round pick.

QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Jun 20, 2014 -> 02:14 PM) If he could pull off a Mike Mussina then that's just perfectly fine. There's no way around it: Danks has been getting the job done lately. With the lesser stuff it takes more time for people to become believers, but he IS a veteran lefthander with good enough offspeed stuff and control otherwise to where you have to at least allow for the possibility. He definitely is in the right situation re: coaching and health/strength/injury prevention. If he keeps being a solid looking pitcher (1.51 ERA in his last 5 starts) then when the deadline rolls around, he'll be sitting there with an ERA in the mid-3's (he's at 3.97 on the full season) and the Sox will be in a position to ask for a whole lot for him, basically that'd be him pitching like a borderline #2 starter again, signed to a multi year, affordable deal. Of course, other teams should be hesitant to give up the kind of value for him that it would take to get a #2 starter given his recent injury history, making dealing him exceptionally unlikely unless the White Sox cut the price in order to move salary to find more Cubans.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 20, 2014 -> 10:48 AM) If this follows the typical Boras negotiating pattern, there's going to be a meltdown on here when on July 10th, a report comes out saying that Rodon is leaning towards returning to NC St for his senior season. I think a few of us will be still saying "This is a normal negotiating tactic". If nothing else it appears you and I will agree on that.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 20, 2014 -> 10:31 AM) He would pretty much have to go 1 or 2 to get anywhere near what the Sox will give him this year. A lot can go wrong. One thing which I just read a couple of days ago, the White Sox could collapse, get one of those top picks, and would need Rodon's permission to draft him again. They probably wouldn't bother. Wite's not always right, but his odds of Rodon signing with the White Sox before July 18th are correct IMO. It makes zero sense not to sign, you just have to go through the Boras song and dance for a while. What you didn't add is that, on the off chance the White Sox did get one of the top couple picks and passed on him after a breakdown this year...that would push him at least 1 (if not 2) extra picks down the draft this year, and the difference between #3 slot money and #5 slot money is several million dollars.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jun 20, 2014 -> 10:40 AM) Yeah, that's true. Another thing to note regarding Tomas: look at those numbers and compare them to Abreu's. This kid is an advanced prospect, not someone who is likely to step in and be a star from day one. Not saying we shouldn't want him, just saying that Puig set a dangerous precedent. What he has done should not be considered standard. However, if this is the "guy who might be better than Puig" we've heard about the last few months, Puig will be the precedent for his salary whether we like it or not, and the successes of Puig and Abreu will almost certainly push his contract past that of Jose.

We've gotten a few of the "Let's do it!" posts out of the way, so let's add the harder question. You up for 6/$100?

Where will you be working? Getting around many areas in California is rough, that's my first reaciton.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jun 20, 2014 -> 09:03 AM) And Sanchez can play SS, right? Prior to Micah being called up and Marcus being sent down he'd only played like 7 games at SS, but during the last 2 weeks he's suddenly jumped up to 19 there on the season, so it appears he's playing there regularly in June.

QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Jun 19, 2014 -> 08:03 PM) Yeah whichever team decides to give him 7 years+ and $25M+ or whatever completely ridiculous contract that will be.... we'll see what happens there. My guess is it's not going to be good 3-4 years out. The trick is that you have to win the world series within 2-3 years if you give that deal out (esp. if you give up a draft pick to do it). If you do that, that's worth basically the entire value of the contract. If you're not in a position where he can put you over the top then you're likely correct. I do however think the White Sox should get him, solely on the grounds that the rest of MLB should not have left handed pitching.

So, just finished my 4th apartment hunt, should have the place under contract. Right now, for actually hunting, look and see if there are listing sites in the city, but frankly, Craigslist has worked for the last 2. That does not mean there aren't scams, so try to do your homework. Google Maps/streetview the place if you find it, look at the neighborhood, spy on it through satellite, that's a useful start. Best recommendation I think I can give? Find a half dozen places you like, that meet your standards, and go see them in person.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jun 19, 2014 -> 05:55 PM) The White Sox are not getting David Price. He would never re-sign here. You can close this thread. we don't close threads based on the judgment that it wont happen even if that judgment is likely correct. By adding a post saying "you can close this thread", you not only bumped the thread back to the top, but you also wound up causing me to see your post and thus led to me replying to your post, bumping it to the top of the forum again. By stating that the thread should be closed you have therefore prolonged its life.

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Jun 19, 2014 -> 05:50 PM) And it was perfectly plausible that Nixon's secretary accidentally stepped on the record peddle while answering the phone as well. I know you bleed Democrat, but that fact that you can't at least see how this APPEARS to be criminal is just dumbfounding. Maybe you should change your screen name to Sgt Schultz. I generally agree that mistakes that lead to violations of things like the Presidential Records Act come close to qualifying as criminal. Just as this one did. Can we get charges in both cases?

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 19, 2014 -> 05:33 PM) Do you not thing what is going on in Iraq right now to be newsworthy / important? Comment directed at the landslide of people who utterly failed to learn anything from how Iraq has already gone.

Comes back, reads thread, shakes head, writes this post, walks away.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jun 11, 2014 -> 10:30 PM) She better keep hiding behind that jacket after that performance. Muck fichigan

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jun 11, 2014 -> 09:35 PM) Danks meltdown begins Your predictions are inaccurate.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Jun 8, 2014 -> 06:25 PM) So what do we do with Sanchez? Play them all around the infield until either they show they can hit big league pitching or a solid trade comes along.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jun 8, 2014 -> 05:38 PM) Cherry pick stats I simply want to see you post when he is hitting his usual .180 .180 really is not usual for him. It could be he's gotten physically much worse this year but it really is unusual.