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QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Feb 14, 2014 -> 08:31 PM) The Bulls should sign Arne Duncan. Best youth education policy they could ask for.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Feb 14, 2014 -> 09:02 PM) Could you imagine if the Red Sox deal didn't get nixed by the union? Magglio would have destroyed in that lineup, and the white sox would have had a soon to be broken down Nomar and no BMac(and eventually no danks) Would the injuries have played out the same way? That's the big trick.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 14, 2014 -> 08:39 PM) While I totally disagree with releasing him, doesn't releasing him mean exactly the opposite of the contract doing harm to the team. Guys making nothing get released all the time. It says his play is doing harm to the team. He's. Not. Making. Nothing.

QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Feb 14, 2014 -> 09:08 PM) Does anyone know what the rebound rates are for the type of surgery Danks had? With TJ, it's supposed to be one rebound year after your time out, is this similar? No, because literally only like 1-2 pitchers have had this surgery before and 0 have done so at Danks's age.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Feb 14, 2014 -> 10:14 PM) In this case, it'd be because (1) most of those prospects can play short, (2) there's a good chance those prospects will best, thus we could use a hedge, and (3) we need a 30 year-old league-average OF even less. The trick would be to target guys at the A-Ball level who we haven't heard of and who need 1+ year of solid developmental work at those positions given where our system is if you're shooting for those spots. The problem is no one has a clue what other teams have at high-A ball so no one could suggest a deal like that which makes sense for both teams.

Wow, a worse idea than signing another pitcher. this makes sense when we release Adam Eaton.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Feb 14, 2014 -> 03:55 PM) You've never had a buddy date a girl and the group all agreed she's a b****, but you could never point to a specific example of why? It's just a vibe. And let's be real. I think to be a woman in 2014 and get to where she's at you have to be to a certain extent. You're dealing with men who are assholes most of the time. edit: I should add that I understand your point and Greg does seem to come into this thread and just say "she's a b****! why is she a candidate?" without offering much else. And he's done it more than once. If he were interested in giving me a list of examples as to why he thinks her personality would not be well suited to the role of president as defined in his mind, that's something I'd be willing to listen to and perhaps agree or disagree with. I can very easily do something similar with Christie, for example from the other side. But I'd lump simply calling her that at the same level of insulting Christie's weight. You might be able to pull it off if you're very, very nimble about it and making a joke somehow, but the way it's being done here should be below the dignity of decent human beings.

People have noted Montero in this thread right?

If he were actually interested in making an intelligent point, there's one that could actually be made. Hillary may be the early front-runner but he's correct in that she has given us no real obvious policy statements as of yet, there's no real "here's what we'll get done if you elect me", or even a "here's a decision I was right about that the rest of you f***ed up". IN 2008 there were both of those. The Democrats were debating what they'd do with health care, and at least 1 candidate got to say "the rest of you totally f***ed up the most important international vote of the last several decades, the Iraq debacle". Being able to say that was definitely a key aspect in how that election turned out, and there was a big policy point to deal with. Thus far, Mrs. Clinton has not laid out a justification for a candidacy and has not spelled out any specific thing that she would focus on getting done. The counter-point of course is that at this point, virtually no legitimate candidate has done so because we're nearly 3 years away from the election day so there's time to do those things. But either way, that is a valid point..."why are we electing this person" is a legitimate question right now. Instead we get borderline misogynist, ad-hominem bullcrap. That type of line is beneath a decent person.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Feb 14, 2014 -> 03:57 AM) By many accounts, she is a mean spirited B word. You know what? This just isn't ok any more.

QUOTE (Bigsoxhurt35 @ Feb 14, 2014 -> 12:33 PM) I haven't looked at the pirates but I've wondered if they were a fit. I thought they needed a bat The pirates could use help with the bats but their OF slots are pretty darn full. Starling Marte, McCutchen, Jose Tabata.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Feb 13, 2014 -> 09:52 PM) No s***. Needs to be stressed.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Feb 13, 2014 -> 09:48 PM) Absolutely not. If you're right...then simply replacing Boozer with him comes no where close to making the bulls a championship team.

QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 13, 2014 -> 08:45 PM) The funny thing is if Bulls never drafted Mirotic, tanked this year, drafted him with a top 5 pick, people would be freaking the hell out with excitement. Because of the way Mirotic has been stocked away I don't think people know how to value him, but by all accounts the guy is a lottery pick. But is he a "top 5 pick in this years draft"? Because there's a a big difference between a "lottery pick in an average year" and a "top 5 pick in 2014".

QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Feb 13, 2014 -> 04:55 PM) Was a bit surprised that he, too, will be a starter this season. May delay his path to future closer, but if he has 4 pitches as the article says, maybe it's worth a shot. I don't feel like "being a starter" delays guys on the path to a bullpen role in this org, might even be the opposite; they use it to build up arm strength and experience with offspeed stuff before they wind up in the bullpen at higher levels. Petricka, for example, was starting all the way through the beginning of 2013, and spent less than 1 full season in the minor league bullpens before being called up.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Feb 13, 2014 -> 04:43 PM) They may be hard to win, but very few go to trial since legal is underfunded and just mandates a settlement most of the time, because from the employe's standpoint settling is less expensive than fighting the lawsuit. Again, I'm not talking about nationwide, but where I work 8 of the last 10 promotions at my level have gone to minorities and the other two to women. I can't speak to your specific situation...but there is very solid evidence out there that "Having more diverse management staffs/boards of directors" leads to better business outcomes nationwide. The more diverse the upper levels of the workforce, the more companies are able to effectively deal with the types of issues that do appear in a diverse society. If all other things are close to equal, it will actually benefit the company to give preference to a diverse management level force. It provides significant business benefits.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Feb 13, 2014 -> 04:11 PM) I think Derrick is either going to be done or he'll be himself, I don't think he's going to just be "average" either way. I'm just sort of expecting the Rose we saw this year, the guy who is no longer the most explosive guy on the court.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 13, 2014 -> 03:54 PM) The Bulls best chance is if Morotic becomes a star. Melo isn't going to be a Bull. Let's be real here. I know that's what they're relying on...but when he winds up teamed with a guy who is only an average PG because of the injuries and 2+ seasons off, if he even stays on the court, I can't fathom that team competing with the elite. Even with the way Noah is playing. You're 100% right though...that's the only thing which will happen. The Bulls will amnesty Boozer, replace him with Mirotic, and otherwise stand pat, staying beneath the luxury tax and hoping for the best.

I really wish I could say that the last 2 pages of this thread were a nightmare and I didn't actually read it.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 13, 2014 -> 11:41 AM) I don't understand your argument. If you think he can be good in the future but isn't right now, keeping him and playing him can make him better. If he isn't ready to play, he is going to get broken on the major league level. Having him up if he isn't near ready serves zero purpose. He doesn't get better, gets little experience and may even go backwards. Playing at AA or AAA he may be ready to help you next year. Sitting on the bench and being overmatched won't help him and can ultimately hurt him. People in the past have complained the White Sox rush their prospects. This is the ultimate rush if you put him on the major league roster. A catcher cannot be hidden. If you think Nieto is a decent enough prospect to keep on the major league roster, wouldn't he at least be worth Jared Mitchell to be able to send to AA or AAA and actually have an opportunity to develop? It depends on a couple things...how good you really think Neito is and how much you think it would hurt him to sit on the bench. I think he's a wild card even if treated 100% correctly, so that leaves me in a position of being willing to risk the damage to his development, because I don't see a major downside (and frankly, having him up potentially helps us develop Phegley by getting him regular AB's at Charlotte too).

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Feb 13, 2014 -> 11:35 AM) Isn't the idea of combining Melo and Rose just asking for problems? Both guys need the ball to be effective. Is Melo going to be alright being a second fiddle? Is Rose going to be OK with Melo taking final shots? You know both of those things will happen. Compared to the last time the Bulls were healthy, I think it would make Rose more effective if there was someone else on the roster who also needed the ball to be effective. Rose having to take fewer bad/defended shots is a necessary step for him to become a more efficient player. Then again, who knows if Rose will ever be more than a tolerable player again given the loss of >2 seasons.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 13, 2014 -> 11:23 AM) Flowers, Phegley. Why are their odds longer than a guy I am assuming you had never heard of or have seen play before the Sox selected him? And you lose development time, so why would 2015 be any better for him than 2014? Stashing mediocre players who aren't reade for a year just to keep them is a waste of a roster spot and money. Especially a catcher who is going to have to play a significant amount no matter what. A pitcher you can use in garbage time. I would really doubt the Nats need a significant return if the Sox want to keep him, so I am guessing Birmingham or Charlotte. IMO, Flowers is already going to get plenty of development time...and I'm not sure he's earned it anyway. Right now he's still the starting catcher unless he's released after ST. And Phegley...phrankly, after his big league performance last season even a good spring training wouldn't convince me that he belongs on the big league team right now. Charlotte for a couple months at the very least seems like a good reaction to how he performed in the big leagues last year. If the White Sox find something of really tiny utility that they'd be willing to give up for Nieto, fine. I'm not even sure I'd give up Jared Mitchell for him right now since all we have to do is keep him on the big league roster.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Feb 13, 2014 -> 11:02 AM) He's signed through 2020. His buyout is 8 million in 2014-2015 and 2015-16, 1 million 2016-17, and 500k from 2017-2020. http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball...tract-extension So does that mean his buyout after the 2015-2016 season ends is $1 million? So there's a $7 million savings if he is the coach for the next 2 seasons compared to if he's only the coach for the next 1 season? So that buys him 2 full seasons after this one. I can tolerate that.

QUOTE (Jake @ Feb 13, 2014 -> 11:08 AM) It would be very interesting to see a team with healthy Rose and Melo on it. I think Melo throughout his career has not typically done a good job of making his teammates better, though he has started to develop in that regard. With an MVP-ish point guard on his team, that might affect both of their styles of play. A strong-headed coach like Thibs could command the respect of all actors as well. It is certainly an experiment worth doing and honestly we become at least a top 3 team in the East if you add Melo without gutting the entire roster (I'm talking this year, no Rose). If you can have a starting lineup of Rose-Butler-Melo-Taj-Noah at some point, that looks like a truly great team if you have absolutely anything behind those 5. I just wonder whether or not the Melo/Rose/Thibs setup isn't comparable to the Billups/Melo/Karl setup Denver ran out there, particularly if Taj has to go in the process.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 13, 2014 -> 11:15 AM) IMO, that isn't worth keeping him on the roster. It isn't like he is Ivan Rodriquez. Who is he taking valuable development time away from?