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QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Aug 15, 2013 -> 05:49 PM) Holy f***, are you serious. First of all, Bleacher Report is a joke. The "Yahoo" link you posted was a YAHOO ANSWERS link posted by some moron. The Fangraphs post is from BEFORE ADAM DUNN EVER PLAYED FOR THE WHITE SOX. And Fox News? Thef***cares. I don't think he's a HOFer either, but if you want to claim that you're stunned anyone would ever bring up Adam Dunn as a candidate for the HOF, you should expect someone to actually take the time to google it.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Aug 15, 2013 -> 05:25 PM) Only on Soxtalk would there be a serious conversation about Adam Dunn's HoF chances. And on Bleacher Report, Yahoo, Fangraphs, FoxNews, and a number of other websites.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 15, 2013 -> 04:45 PM) I get it now. I feel like an idiot. Atleast I don't have ED Would having a 7.20 ERA in the world series help with your ED?

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Aug 15, 2013 -> 04:27 PM) Like most he's had a bad year overall. In the eyes of fangraphs he's actually performing a lot better than last year. The errors have hurt his defense but he's getting on base a lot more and he's doing a ton of damage on the basepaths.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 15, 2013 -> 04:20 PM) It was a boner joke I know. And I tried to play it cool.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 15, 2013 -> 03:23 PM) Problem is, Verlander has no problem rising to the occasion. His career 0-3 mark and 7.20 ERA in the World Series suggests that he might actually have some of those problems.

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Aug 15, 2013 -> 02:48 PM) Well I'm thinking more so for the runner that could be standing on first. There are many times where he would score on a double hit down the line. And usually they give that runner 2 bases even though he might have had a shot at scoring, while sometimes for a really speedy runner the ump will give them the run. That's still a heckuva lot more accurate than "The double never happened".

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Aug 15, 2013 -> 02:24 PM) If you give the ump some discretion on that, it's going to be two bases everytime as that's the safest call. On current fan interference calls an ump can give more than two bases but how often do you ever see that called? Not very. Because most of the time it would actually be two bases and not three. How many guys regularly hit triples anyway?

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Aug 15, 2013 -> 02:11 PM) So Konerko hits a blooper that lands on the line in which he has no prayer of stretching out to a double he still gets awarded two bases because the umpire blew the call? The ump should get a reasonable amount of discretion in where they put the baserunners. Or you can do like football does...if its questionable, run the play and see what the end result is before going to the replay. "The ump might give a guy an extra base that could have been a close play at 2nd" is a lot better than "nobody gets anything because we blew the call"

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QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 15, 2013 -> 01:32 PM) If Garcia shows the capability to hit .250 or so and shows elite defensive ability, I want Semien at 2B or 3B. If you are going to have Semien in the hypothetical lineup anyways, you are comparing Gillaspie to Garcia, and I want .650 OPS at elite defensive at SS as opposed to a .700 OPS and good defense at 3B. That we can agree on, but he's only hitting .263 on the season in AAA. Yeah he's only 22 and those are his first 200 at bats at AAA, but let's not rush this one. On top of that, 10 errors in 43 games isn't great either. Give him some at bats in winterball and at AAA to start next season, and if he earns the slot, then we call ourselves very successful.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 15, 2013 -> 01:13 PM) At the very least, this year, he needs to play every day in Charlotte and then bring him up and play him a bit down the stretch. He needs to play winter ball in a big way. Evaluate where he his next spring. If they trade Alexei this offseason, which wouldn't be a bad idea, then you can just have a competition within camp for the position. If Alexei is traded in the offseason, then Garcia better hit .450 in camp while Semien hits .100 for Garcia to get the job. He'd have to be head and shoulders better than Semien to get it. Garcia in AAA next year while Semien gets a trial at SS isn't the worst thing. If long term they both develop then 3b or 2b could be options for Marcus.

Oh, and if they want to put together a roster that has a shot at competing if things go right, adding at least 1 veteran arm to that young bullpen, if for no reason other than a stabilizing, veteran presence...would be a good thing. Heck, might want to do that even if they're trying to shoot for another high draft pick just so that the kids continue to have a veteran around out there.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Aug 15, 2013 -> 12:45 PM) Lindstrom is not that bad. If we get an offer that is decent I am sure he is gone. But, who replaces him next year in the pen? Do we go after free agents or promote from within? I'd probably do some of both. The pen right now is: Reed Jones Veal Troncoso Purcey Axelrod Lindstrom I'd say that for next year, Reed, Jones, and Veal are likely candidates. Axelrod has a role as the last guy/long guy out until we find someone better. I'd wager Daniel Webb is up next year. That's 5 guys, one of which is a lefty, leaving 2 open spots as written. Don't know why you'd pencil in Purcey or Troncoso next year unless you're shooting for the #1 pick. Santos Rodriguez could be a possible lefty contributor next year if they want to bring him up. That still leaves at least 1 spot for a FA signing, maybe more if they want to sign a lefty or another righty instead of Webb or Santos L. Rodriguez.

Just to share a link, I think this covered pretty well a lot of the behind-the-politics how things got this bad.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 15, 2013 -> 12:31 PM) Andrelton Simmons ALREADY has 3 WAR this year with a .283 wOBA. He is going to be freakin good That dude is ridiculous in the field. I don't even bother comparing Garcia with him because Simmons is on a planet with guys like Ozzie Smith for now.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 15, 2013 -> 12:28 PM) So long as reports of his defense are correct, he can get you at least 1 win there. Simply by being a shortstop, he gets you another 1.75 wins. Then if we assume smart and effective baserunning, and a .675-.700 OPS, and you are quite quickly approaching about 3.5 wins. This is the format that Elvis Andrus uses, for example.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Aug 15, 2013 -> 09:48 AM) Does that mean he's an overpaid bum? Unfortunately that would not be an unfair summary of his production this year.

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Aug 15, 2013 -> 08:54 AM) I think KLaw also disputed the notion of his 70/70 grades. He basically said that means he would hit .320 with 30 HRs right away. So you're saying the White Sox signing him is all but guaranteed?

QUOTE (ron883 @ Aug 15, 2013 -> 02:09 AM) I find it strange that you can compare Dunn with the Sox to a trainwreck, but you would never compare Ozzie with the sox to a trainwreck. If Dunn had hit 60 HR his second season with the Sox and carried them to a WS title, I might care a lot less about him putting up one of the worst seasons in MLB history in his first season.

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QUOTE (Marty34 @ Aug 14, 2013 -> 06:16 PM) ROFL. One guy will swing through the pitch because he starts to late, the other guy because he starts too early. Does it matter? As long as we're clear that every cuban has the wrong bat speed.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Aug 14, 2013 -> 05:58 PM) $80M is too much. $50M-$60M range would be on the edge of acceptable. Concerns of a slider-speed bat. I have visions of a guy like Viciedo swinging through 91-92 mph fastballs. LOL, that's timing and pitch recognition, not bat speed. I'm not sure I can think of anyone on the White Sox with better "bat speed" than Viciedo.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 14, 2013 -> 05:45 PM) I think that team would be absolutely terrible Duh. Still better than Tebow throwing 50 a game.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 14, 2013 -> 05:30 PM) It would be awesome if Tebow would be forced to run a precision passing offense like the Patriots. I doubt they'd be stupid enough to try. They'd run something similar to what Denver ran, an ultra-conservative, running-led attack.