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QUOTE (Marty34 @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 04:22 PM) Of course it's about the money. The odds of Guillen surviving past 2012 with the Sox were very long. The Marlins have a better chance at a playoff spot than the Sox over the next couple of years in my view which isn't saying much, but it is all about $16M versus $2M. How on Earth are you guys rationally coming to this conclusion? I mean, I tried to pour water on the idea that the Braves had the wild card locked up here a page or two ago...but that statement is an enormous stretch from "The Marlins might have a shot at competing for the wild card".

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 04:20 PM) It's not tampering when you're begging the other team to take someone off of your payroll. How much you want to bet that the reason the Sox are getting 2 players involves no tampering allegations ever being filed?

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 04:00 PM) Hearing Hawk ALMOST criticize Ozzie last night was all I needed to hear to know that people in the clubhouse wanted him out. I hope everyone stays quiet from this point on. How long do you think it will take before Ozzie/Oney start the public feud?

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 03:54 PM) They're in a worse situation, IMO, than the Blue Jays. The Braves have a great roster and will probably bring in some studs by trading someone like Jurrjens. The Braves have a ton of talent...but young talent only gets you so far. If you don't believe me, go take a look at Jayson Heyward's Becktackular numbers this year.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 03:53 PM) Nationals and Braves could be ridiculously talented as well the next few years. I think the Marlins have a lot of talent on their roster but very little depth. A bad year from Hanley or Josh Johnson or Stanton, and they're toast. I'm going to give the Nats at least another year or two before I start thinking of them as anything. Stras will be on an innings limit next year, Harper will probably break in next year but it's going to take him a while to get to dominance, and Jayson Werth's contract makes Adam Dunn's look good.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 03:53 PM) LOL. I love how everyone is overlooking how incredible the competition will be for Florida for the next few years. The Marlins will be lucky to be a 3rd place team in the next few years. I wouldn't overestimate the Braves, especially with what they're going through right now. They've got a legit shot at 2nd and the WC, and I'm pretty sure that Florida has some experience winning the WC and WS.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 03:49 PM) I tried to make it clear that I DO think it will work for the first year or two. No doubt about that. It's a perfect crescendo. But after the "newness" of the park falls off and if the team still struggles to get to .500, in 3-5 years attendance will go back down again to a little above where it is now. This is just my opinion and as a Marlins fan and future Florida resident, I hope I am wrong. The real problem with the "First year or two" for Ozzie in Florida actually has a name. Or a couple of names. Roy Halladay, Cliff Lee, Ryan Howard, Shane Victorino, Hunter Pence, Cole Hamels, etc.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 03:43 PM) Personally, I have no faith in south Florida baseball. Yes both Florida teams had/have horrible stadiums, but they have never had a lot of support. I just dont think FLorida is a summer baseball state. I think it has to be grown into organically, and that takes time.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 03:14 PM) I bet he is loading Ozzie's bags on to a plane right now... Ozzie is already off the plane and Tweeting.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 03:14 PM) Everybody and their brother knew he'd go to Florida with Guillen. Why name him the interim manager? Did the team actually name him anything officially? It's been reported that he was simply told not to show up today.

QUOTE (Cali @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 03:12 PM) Uh-oh, Omar Infante signed an extension with the Marlins and he where's #13... Will he respect the guy who makes the goddamn line-up? Ozzie is going to adore having Infante.

No one else enjoys the irony of getting a player back who can legitimately be called "Ozzie"?

QUOTE (oldsox @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 03:00 PM) As Kenny says, "You don't get much for $56,000,000 and a #1 draft choice anymore." Adds Ozzie..."Except a cleanup hitter!"

QUOTE (Wanne @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 02:41 PM) I think Chambliss has earned the right to be the new hitting coach IMO... I think whoever the next manager is deserves the right to pick the rest of his staff. He's already getting his pitching coach forced upon him.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 02:37 PM) Being only 55 min in, I havent felt like anything was TOO forced. might be, but not unreasonable. I am sure there is more coming as I watch it tonight. You'll get to the stuff I meant soon.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 02:32 PM) Nothing wrong with that. LOST did that for years. It's what brings you back. It shows they have a long term vision rather than a week to week vision. I get it...just felt forced.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 02:21 PM) Anyone got the Cooper extension in print or was that not for real? It's been WSCR'd at least.

QUOTE (Controlled Chaos @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 01:38 PM) Is there a non appreciative thread so I can review all things bad ozzie? Go to the firing thread.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 02:19 PM) Dylan is one of those guys with very effective stuff that was under the radar like Dan Hudson. Whippy arm action, disappearing breaking ball. Dan Hudson was not under the radar.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 02:17 PM) Hope Coop sticking around means Mark sticks around. Twas all about the money beforehand, remains all about the money (unless M -56 desides to call it quits completely).

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 02:16 PM) I said it yesterday in the game thread, but if Zach Stewart isn't careful, he will be the one in Charlotte next year, and not Dylan. I have no problem with this. Stewart has never spent a full season above AA.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 01:38 PM) I can't see Harold anywhere else. He'd have to move to get somewhere else.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 02:05 PM) Don Cooper getting a 4 year extension is fantastic. He's been the ace up our sleeve for awhile, now. This does significantly raise my confidence level in Philip Humber for next year.

QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 01:45 PM) I wonder if and when the Marlins and White Sox play interleague games, will Ozzie order his pitchers to plunk Done and Rios for getting him fired. That would be funny. Ozzie will tell everyone he's going to do so and then will fail to do so.