Balta1701

Quit being silly.

QUOTE (Middle Buffalo @ Jan 11, 2011 -> 08:37 AM) This post applies to most of the threads in th filibuster. They generally have 3 or 4 posters on each side of the issue going back and forth and never conceding any points to the other side. I can't recall too many times where someone's opinion was swayed even a little. It's like arguing with a Cub fan. No matter what the argument is about, the Cub fan will always say something about attendance. Dude, welcome to politics in general.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jan 11, 2011 -> 03:02 AM) Why is everyone on the "Sale's health is questionable" wagon? Until he actually suffers from health problems and is injured, that excuse is invalid. Just like the whole "Well, Feliz did it, so Sale can too". Feliz HASN'T started for the Rangers yet in 2011, so he can't be used as an example of success either. This one is simple mechanics. At this point, the world has some idea of what mechanics increase pitchers levels of risk for elbow injury, because we have legitimately large sample sizes. Sale's mechanics fall into that category. He may well pitch forever without injury issues...but if he does, he'd be in the minority.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 09:55 PM) Fun fact: Rose has already eclipsed his rookie Win Share total this season in only 36 games. He's not too far away from last year's totals. He did miss a month last year and then took another month to get healthy.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 09:51 PM) Celtics about to lose again. I think that brings the Heat into a tie in the loss column.

Just make sure you train everyone you can to feel the same way.

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Kepler has an extra-solar rocky planet!

President Obama is planning to take a trip to Tucson in the next day or so.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 07:14 PM) I'll never buy a 6 man rotation idea with this team again after the McCarthy lie in 2006. A 6 man rotation is really impractical with a 25 man roster limitation. You limit your bench to 4 players and you limit your bullpen to 6 players.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 07:38 PM) I am going to bet that Ozzies words after he left Chicago will take him down a notch too. If he put up .950-ish OPS's in 2005 and 2006, Ozzie's words would have been forgotten.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 07:43 PM) I'd rather see the Twins have Vlad than Thome. I'd rather have them go for Thome...he fits in their lineup worse.

Good work 2k5.

QUOTE (PlunketChris @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 07:05 PM) I honestly wouldn't have considered them of the same class of "feared hitters" before your post that's probably my homer-ism working against me. Having PK through his prime, and having Mags leave the Sox in the midst of his may have tainted how I look at the players. Thanks for the direct comparison. That said, I really don't think either of them is a HOF player, nor do I think either will quite get over that bump. I'd say the big difference to me is when they did it. A "feared hitter" in 2002 was putting up quite a bit better numbers than a feared hitter in 2005-2006, and especially compared to 2010. (although Ordonez did have a Hell of a 2007). Edit; not that I'm disagreeing with you on neither being an HOF candidate.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 06:58 PM) Do you have a link to these studies? A few of the more famous relievers turned starters are Derek Lowe, who went from spot starter to closer to starter. His first year as a full time starter 21 wins 220 IP. Smoltz was a starter turned reliever for 5 years. Went back to starting at age 38 and threw 230 IP. Mark Buerhle work mostly out of the bullpen his first year with the White Sox in 2000. In 2001 he threw 221 innings, which is more than he's thrown in any season since 2005. Link

QUOTE (lostfan @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 06:53 PM) Mostly yes, I mean not anything remotely like the Filibuster Of course, I wasn't there.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 06:49 PM) The Rangers are going to score them some runs. If Hamilton and Cruz stay healthy.

QUOTE (PlunketChris @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 06:43 PM) Mags would have the best chance to get in. He's the only one of this group who has ever really been a dominant force in a lineup, though probably not for long enough or on good enough teams to even get him a sniff of 75% of the BBWAA vote. Konerko in 2004, 2005, and 2010 was a dominant lineup force, he has 4 all star appearances, and has finished 6th and 5th in the MVP voting. It's actually not as far apart as you'd think. Ordonez has a couple more AS appearances and a #2 MVP finish, but only 1 other season where he finished #8 in the voting. PK14's best OPS+ was 158, Ordonez was 166, and they've each only gotten up there 2 times.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 06:19 PM) I don't think they have the money after the Pavano signing. Vlad isn't getting less than what he got last year. Are you sure? The Rangers already declined an option on him that would have been a small raise.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 06:16 PM) I think Maggio has the best chance, but he has to get to 3000 hits in all likelihood. If Ordonez had never blown out his leg, then he would have had a shot...but the era that he played in would likely be a taint on him as well.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 05:57 PM) Where did I ever say they were vastly overpaid? I was pointing out the fact that pensions are literally killing state economics. The fact someone can work for 20 years and retire making 100% of the salary they were making after working for 15 years is not a good system. Look at the link below and tell me that these are not good paying jobs which will allow you to retire at 55 years of age and then let me know what I am missing. Teachers with 20 years of experience can make roughly $80K. That is not grossly overpaid but not bad for 8 months of work which also covers you for therest of your life when you retire.....and I know that CPS is not an ideal workplace but the suburbs are worse as far as the salaries go. The teachers union in the state of Illinois are out of control and have been for years. School districts pick up 95 to 100% of the benefit cost in certain districts....who pays for this, not the district that is negotiating the contract...at least they are not covering all of it. http://www.cps-humanresources.org/Employee...eachers38.6.pdf Everything after the first line of your post is an argument that teachers and firefighters are vastly overpaid. And I still continue to disagree.

QUOTE (bighurt574 @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 05:51 PM) Is Konerko a HOF'er? He needs at least a few more strong seasons, but he's currently: 365 HRs, 1861 hits, 1156 RBIs, .280 avg Or how about... Ordonez -- 289 HRs, 2072 hits, 1204 RBIs, .312 avg Carlos Lee -- 331 HRs, 1967 hits, 1192 RBIs, .287 avg Especially considering the eras that they played through, no. I don't know if I'd think any of them were HOF-ers if they got to 500.

QUOTE (Special K @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 05:40 PM) Is the DeWayne Wise/Brian Anderson debate officially dead? We all lost that one.