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QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 18, 2007 -> 11:18 AM) Byrnes and Rowand would cost you about 20 million dollars a year between them. Don't worry though, the grinding will be out of control. And getting rid of Dye for nothing is very dumb, as it's likely his two Type A compensation picks will be much more valuable than what the Rally Killer will get you right now. I can't wait until people around this team realize that Rowand has probably pushed himself either totally or nearly into the $10 mil a year territory by having a career year so far this season.

The First 6 months of 2007 are either the first or second hottest since temp. recording began, depending on who's numbers you look at (.01 degree C difference)

Here's the question you have to ask yourself: Is a lineup that looks like this going to be a winner: Owens, LF Richar, 2b ARod, SS Thome, DH Konerko, 1b Pierzynski, C Fields, 3b Sweeney, RF Anderson, CF Starting rotation: Buehrle, Garland, Vazquez/Contreras, Danks, Floyd Bullpen; no expensive additions, only stuff from our organization or picked up through trades If you could get someone to take on Contreras or Vazquez without us having to give up money, that's about a $100 million lineup right there, give or take. If you want to be able to put ARod into that lineup, you need to be ready for the rookies to take the rest of the spots.

At this point, it probably behooves us to take whatever we can get for Jose, for 2 reasons. 1; salary dump. I don't see us being in good shape next year if we're spending another $46 million on the starting rotation with these same 5 guys in it. And 2; we really need to clear another slot in the rotation to try out some of the kids we think could be good. It wouldn't be a bad idea at all to give Floyd a few months in the big leagues this year to see if we can hope to count on him for anything next year, and if he can't cut it, then it's Broadway or Gio time next year. On Dye, if he departs as a FA, his numbers all but guarantee he'll bring us A level compensation, so there's no huge rush to deal him unless we get something more valuable than that back. Iguchi...I could go either way. He's got an outside chance at being an A level FA as a 2nd baseman, and I'd say at worst is a B-level one, so he'd probably bring us something back next offseason if he walks. But it might not hurt to give Richar some time in the bigs this year as well, so it depends on what we're offered.

Give Richar a shot. If we can't plug in some of these kids and actually have success with them, we'll be pretty much screwed anyway. You can't hire a FA mercenary to fill every single hole you have unless you're on Yankee salaries.

QUOTE(hitlesswonder @ Jul 18, 2007 -> 09:45 AM) I agree -- it's not like the bullpen is the only hole on the team. The offense is terrible. Half the starting lineup consists of AAA players. And to get decent relievers that early in the season would have cost players like Egbert, Gonzalez or Sweeney. And perhaps equally as important...the guys on the offense who aren't terrible all seemingly got off to terrible starts except Thome (who got hurt). Even if everything else was equal, we weren't going to win many games with this version of Podsednik and Erstad at the top of the order and Konerko, Iguchi, Dye, and Crede hitting around .200 for the first 2 months. We survived bad starts by Konerko and Dye in the first 2 months of 05 because the pitching was really, really good and because we did a nice job of manufacturing runs with Pods tearing up the basepaths. Without that, we didn't have any way to avoid a slump there either.

QUOTE(jasonxctf @ Jul 18, 2007 -> 09:18 AM) Would a corrected bullpen saved the season??? hard to tell. i would guess we would have 6-7 more wins right now if we had quality, major league talent in there. 6-7 more wins, puts the sox around .500 with a fighting chance for post season play. The question is...how much do you sell off in order to get a fighting chance at the postseason (in the AL nonetheless, where a .500 record leaves you 15 games out of playoff contention at the end of the year)

Gio Gonzalez and Ryan Sweeney for Octavio Dotel. Get it done KW! (ok, so I can't find the text color button yet)

QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 18, 2007 -> 08:50 AM) Sounds like the reports of Dye being a cancer in the clubhouse this year are more accurate than we thought. Yeah, even with the contract situation, this doesn't sound like the kind of behavior we've heard from JD over the past few years does it?

Thanks for all the hard work folks.

Yahtzee.

Give em hell, Gavin.

QUOTE(Rex Kicka** @ Jul 5, 2007 -> 11:32 AM) You don't get five federal felony counts if the perjury wasn't directly related to the investigation. You might get one, and you certainly don't get an obstruction of justice charge. IIRC, just a small note, I believe Mr. Libby was charged on 5 counts, and the Jury only convicted him on 4.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jul 5, 2007 -> 03:42 PM) And I blame wet slick footballs for my Cowboys not being in the Super Bowl. Out of steroids and wet footballs, which one is against the rules of the NFL and against the law?

QUOTE(BearSox @ Jun 27, 2007 -> 06:12 PM) Lets just put it this way... G & G (Gio and Galvin... dur) could make a devastating combo some day. In a year or two, if you put together a rotation of Buehrle, Garland, Danks, Gio, and Gavin...that could be really, really, really good, and pretty darn cheap too.

QUOTE(IowaSoxFan @ Jun 27, 2007 -> 07:00 PM) Why, because he wants to play a fourth place team next year too? I dunno, if Gavin Floyd can wind up doing in the big leagues what he's doing in the minor leagues right now, and you keep Buehrle and Garland around, and Fields keeps hitting, and Sweeney and Richar give us something, we might not be that far away next year, esp. if we can hold onto Buehrles and turn either Vaz or Jose into something valuable. We'd basically need a leadoff hitter.

Do you do anything other than catch touchdowns?

QUOTE(iamshack @ Jun 27, 2007 -> 02:42 PM) If he really is such an altruistic gentleman, he should never have been doing those tarp slides. He could have injured his arm, ruined his career, and jeopardized the well-being of all African Elephants. African Elephants are in fine shape. The number of African Elephants tripled in the 6 months from Jan to June 2006.

QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Jun 27, 2007 -> 02:41 PM) Richar might be that guy. How's he doing, btw? Just checked for myself...he's the leading hitter on the team (so far) at .364 with a .970 OPS (so far) and 2 2B and 3 3B (so far). Hopefully he projects as a major leaguer and not another AAAA player. Richar's probably still a guy who we can consider to be very raw. He's spent several years stagnating in high-A in the D-Backs organization, and is just now finally hitting the upper levels. He's supposedly very streaky so far, which is something you just don't really want from a good leadoff hitter. He gets into the ol' Greg Walker pull everything habit and grounds out a lot when he's going bad. He can definately run though, which is a positive, but he has to stay healthy and learn better technique and timing on that part.

Curt Schilling is otu at least through the AS Break. Gabbard takes his place for now.

Am I the only one who remembers months and months of the Republicans whining about how Tom Daschle was an obstructionist up to the point they finally got him out of office?

I want to gouge out my eyes after reading this.

On talent alone of course you take Kemp, but that's not the question. The question is...would you take, oh, let's say Michael Barret on the Sox right now (if he was given to you for nothing)? Do you want a guy who's already started fights with your organization on your team? Anyway, I still think the Dodgers would be insane not to make a run @ Dye this year, and I think the Sox would be silly not to listen.

Go get em Mark.

QUOTE(klaus kinski @ Jun 27, 2007 -> 08:48 AM) Near and "Done" are miles apart True, but "off the trading block" is a quite specific statement and they're def. giving us that.