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QUOTE(infohawk @ Jul 25, 2007 -> 09:17 AM) A few thoughts on Floyd. His past outings have frustrated me in that he seems like he wants to pick at the corners and subsequently falls behind the hitters and issues walks -- not good. I didn't get to see the game last night, but was somewhat suprised when I saw that he had struck out five without issuing any walks. The problems were a high pitch count early in the game and the alarming number of hits he gave up. Also, only five of the runs were earned, still high, but it's not too far removed from what you might expect from a bottom of the rotation guy. But here's the other side of the token...you can say this exact same thing about almost every pitcher who comes up from the minor leagues! It takes most guys some time to learn that they don't have to make the perfect pitch with every throw, and to build some confidence that they can get people out by simply throwing strikes and having good stuff. There are very few pitchers who can come up and have instant success without going through some portion of a learning curve.

QUOTE(TheBigHurt @ Jul 24, 2007 -> 09:27 PM) July call-ups should be fun this year. Fixed that for you.

QUOTE(Rex Kicka** @ Jul 24, 2007 -> 07:51 PM) How is it then that impeachment proceedings of the Attorney General haven't started yet given the ample evidence that he perjured himself in front of Congress, and further that he's stressed that he will pretty much not comply with any request Congress makes unless he sees fit? Well, I'll give you a possible answer to that: As loyal as the Congress was to the President during the last 4 years where his party controlled the Senate, do you really think you could get 16 Republicans to break off from the President to vote to convict in the Senate? The AG could send an army to destroy the Jedi Council and I think you might only get 5 or 6.

QUOTE(Steff @ Jul 24, 2007 -> 04:01 PM) Wana bet someone does.. ? I know a guy who'll take that bet...

QUOTE(daa84 @ Jul 24, 2007 -> 05:12 PM) just before game time....what would you guys be happy with out of floyd tonight? considering that tigers attack is a top 3 offense in the game, maybe the best, i kind of pencil in the "over under" at 5 IP 4 ER. Id be content with that start, anything better and im happy with his outing, anything worse and id be....maybe not disappointed cuz i dont expect him to do well, but disheartened... I want to see a quality start. Anything less I count as a disappointment. Might tolerate 7+IP, 4 ER. Below that, I consider it a negative.

Give em hell Gavin. Please. Would make trading Jose a lot easier.

The best possible option overall might be to pencil Josh into LF for the 1st half next season if Joe is ready to play. If somehow we manage to hold onto Joe, that would give him 3 months or so to rebuild his trading value before the deadline so that he could be moved for something valuable. If he's pain-free, it makes no sense to non-tender him this offseason at least to me. If he comes out and struggles next year, then try to dump him. He'll be pretty cheap for someone for a 1/2 season anyway. The only issue is how much money we're willing to spend to hold onto Joe this offseason, and admittedly, that's the tricky part.

QUOTE(DonnyDevito @ Jul 24, 2007 -> 01:12 PM) is it just me or does fields only light it up in the Cell? he seems outstanding at home and horrible on the road. .250 average, .831 OPS @ home. 6/7 home runs. .256 average, .679 OPS on road. 1/7 home runs.

Another way to ask this. Ozzie is going to have his limited power small guy at the top of the order next year no matter what. Assume this statement is correct, and then answer this question: who would you like that to be? 1. Scott Podsednik 2. Darrin Erstad 3. Jerry Owens

QUOTE(DonnyDevito @ Jul 24, 2007 -> 01:10 PM) why does uribe continue to get starts? He's proven that he sucks this season. Bench his behind! Because Cintron and Gonzalez have certainly earned more playing time.

.289, 5 hr, .906 OPS for Josh in July.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jul 24, 2007 -> 12:44 PM) Fields has really pounded the ball the last few days. His average is up to .255 now with a .759 ops on the year. Pretty damn solid for a rook, even with all the k's. Keep it up, Josh. .289, 5hr, .906 OPS in July for Josh.

QUOTE(BigEdWalsh @ Jul 24, 2007 -> 12:10 PM) 9 game hitting streak for Owens. And a stolen base with IRoid behind the plate.

RBI double by AJ. 2-1 good guys. and that was with 2 outs.

Konerko ties the game at 1-1 with an RBI groundout.

QUOTE(BigEdWalsh @ Jul 24, 2007 -> 11:35 AM) Is it that dismal around here? Yes.

QUOTE(joeynach @ Jul 24, 2007 -> 11:12 AM) LF Eric Byrnes $9 Mil CF Aaron Rowand $9 Mil 2B Orlando Hudson $4.5 Mil RP Scott Linebrink $2.5 Mil I'm not totally sure about the O-Dog, but I think you've underestimated what each of those guys is going to receive on the open market this winter by at least $2 mil each. More so in the case of Linebrink (Justin Speier got 4 years, $18 Mil last year, for an average of $4.5 mil a year).

QUOTE(RibbieRubarb @ Jul 24, 2007 -> 10:02 AM) Its not going to help her this time. She is looking at jail-time. She should spend a non-trivial amount of time behind bars for this one, given that it's a repeat offense and it's not just a DUI but also possession.

"Help control the pet population, have your pets fed to Drew Carey"

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Jul 24, 2007 -> 08:49 AM) I like Gio enough, but I wouldn't bet on him. I'm only wondering, What if these guys don't pan out, like last time? Like with so many prospects everywhere! How bad are we going to be then? Our "strength" in our minor league system is not really. It's just a perceived strength, and I'm really not looking forward to the day that this house of cards comes crashing down. Couple points. First of all...any team that has every one of its minor league prospects crash and burn for a couple years is going to be pretty bad. Unless you're the Yankees or BoSox, there's almost no way around it. The Sox wouldn't have won the world series without developing guys like Buehrle, Garland, McCarthy, Crede, and to a lesser extent Lee. You can find a few bargains to fill holes, but you can't do that at every position. If every one of those guys we've gotten fails, then the fact is, we're just screwed. Would the Tigers be on top if Verlander and Miller had turned into busts? Would the Indians be on top if Sizemore, CC, and Peralta hadn't stepped up? The other side of the coin is of course...what happens if a few of them succeed? If Richar comes up and shows he's an actual MLB everyday player, if Floyd and Gio turn into Major league pitchers of the level they could hit, and Sweeney, Fields, and maybe one or two other guys step it up and become quality regulars? Suddenly the future looks a lot brighter.

QUOTE(hitlesswonder @ Jul 24, 2007 -> 08:44 AM) mlbtraderumors (I know -- unreliable) says those guys are off the table. They think the Sox targeting Melky Cabrera or Robinson Cano in return for Garland. If those guys are off the table, then so is Garland. End of story. With JG's track record the last 3 seasons, you better be able to get at least 1 top level guy for him if you deal him with 1.5 years left on an affordable contract.

So, we need what, 2 spots on the big league roster for today's double header to get Pods and Floyd both on the roster?

QUOTE(dasox24 @ Jul 23, 2007 -> 06:14 PM) In regards to Contreras, he's not owed too much more for the rest of the year since we've already paid a hefty portion of that contract, so unless we're offered a good deal for him, there's no reason to move him. We can hope he'll improve later in the year, and then get more in return in the off-season. And if he doesn't improve at all, then we'll still be able to get what we'd get for him now even if we wait till the off-season b/c his value is so low. Either way, I want Contreras off this team by Spring Training '08, but I don't see why we need to move Contreras if we won't get much in return. The best reason I have is that it gives us at least 2 months to see if Gavin Floyd can actually give this team anything before next year comes and we need to decide on a #5 pitcher.

I'm sure it'll get filibustered in the Senate like all the other lobbying reform packages, but for a moment, applause.

QUOTE(daa84 @ Jul 23, 2007 -> 03:06 PM) so my feelings are his .350 obp in 72 PAs is simply too small of a sample size to jump to the conclusion that he will be effective in the future, especially he when adds literally 0 power.....and i tend to look at the .328 obp and .344 slg in a full season of AAA ball, as a stronger indication that jerry owens' future in the big leaguers will be subpar The odds are probably pretty good that you're right. All I'm saying is...what's the harm in spending a couple months seeing if your wrong? If he fails miserably, then what have we lost this season? More AB for Erstad? If by some chance, he could hold up that .300 average we've seen in July for more than a couple months, and his stolen base/bunting techniques improve with time, then he fills an awful lot of our needs for next season. Speed, leadoff hitter, OF, cheap, under our control for a while. If he hits .220 in August and September, fine, he's a decent pinch runner if we ever need one. But it doesn't hurt for us to try.