Greg Hibbard

with the amount of money generated this year in terms of ticket sales, merch sales, increased revenue from playoffs, and increased season ticket sales for next season, they better well bring Konerko back for 5 years/60 and (if he's healthy) Thomas for 1-2 years at 4-5 million per.

I saw a pic in the paper today of Ozzie gesturing the Choke sign at Cleveland fans and I'm wondering if anyone's got it here. I searched here, but cannot find. thanks

The first guy to reply has the right idea....you want to see him go away? DON'T BUY THE SUN TIMES AND BOYCOTT HIS ARTICLES

QUOTE(robinventura23 @ Sep 29, 2005 -> 02:49 PM) Who cares! We f***ing clinched. Do we have to go into semantics in the middle of the celebration? When it's MLB.com who has bad info, I get confused. You know, they are the ones who make up the rules....

QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Sep 29, 2005 -> 02:46 PM) Dude! GO CELEBRATE! Your original quote was wrong. A 1 game playoff for a division crown ONLY comes into play when the loser is out of the playoffs. The only scenario where that can happen is if the loser is runner up to the WC team. The best the Indians can do is 96-66, & the worst the White Sox can do is 96-66. If the NYY go 97-65 they would win the ALE & not the ALWC. Cool. My quote was wrong, so their website is wrong. That's what I thought. Stupid for them to have bad info on their website.

QUOTE(THEWOOD @ Sep 29, 2005 -> 02:39 PM) from mlb.com "Chicago's victory reduced its magic number to one, clinching a tie for the American League Central title. But even if the Indians were to sweep the three-game set at Jacobs Field this weekend, thus clinching a playoff berth, the White Sox would win the tiebreaker for the AL Central crown with an 11-8 edge in head-to-head play" That was my understanding too. But do you see how one could get confused with the way that it is worded there?

I'm cool, I'm just making sure that MLB.com worded it wrong.

because the "best records in the AL" clause apparently doesn't matter.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Sep 29, 2005 -> 02:33 PM) We clinched the division because we have 96 wins. -- Only one of the AL East teams can finish with 96 wins, making them the AL East champion. -- If Cleveland finishes with 96 wins, they our the wild card due to are head-to-head record. I'm tired of writing this... If you don't get it... too bad. Then the way MLB.com worded this is incorrect: Next Monday (Oct. 3), the Indians would host the White Sox unless those two teams finish with the best records in the AL. In that case, there wouldn't be a playoff game.

What I'm saying is that I still don't understand how we clinched the division with the way that the MLB has worded the rules.

From MLB.com: correct me if I'm wrong, but Yanks can finish with 97 wins, so 96-66 and 96-66 for the White Sox and Indians will NOT be the two best records in the AL....

I had to come back to work so I can't watch the celebration

I call shotgun in this thread

I'm drinking tonight.

oops, just read the caption

QUOTE(Wanne @ Sep 29, 2005 -> 12:06 PM) You watch...the f***in East Bias will come into play and they'll give it to Joe f***in Torre because he got his team on track after a horrid start! I guess the picture in your signature is still there for ironic purposes

inning over

um, no.

So far, pretty damn good game in terms of execution. Now let's blow em out and pop the champagne

2-0 after 1/2 an inning, I'll take it.

Is Guillen manager of the year?

You know that Dave Wills is rooting like hell for two reasons behind that microphone

If they won a playoff series I would do backflips and probably injure myself badly

QUOTE(Tadahito Iguchi @ Sep 28, 2005 -> 09:06 PM) I don't understand how we didn't clinch the wild card tonight???? Long story short, all four teams can still finish with a 95-67 record.

my head hurts so much guys, the logic is this: If the red sox lose tomorrow, the best they could finish is 95-67, but that would mean that the yanks would at best finish 94-68 (assuming the red sox somehow sweep the yankees). If the white sox win tomorrow they will have 96-66 at worst. Assuming the tribe sweeps the white sox they will be tied, with the best record in the AL at 96-66. Under MLB's rules, since the division winner and wild card winner have the best records in the league, no tiebreaker game is played.