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QUOTE(Ozzie Montana @ Aug 8, 2005 -> 02:30 PM) I think that the Yankees, BoSox, and the Angels would block us from getting Griffey. The White Sox wont get Griffey PERIOD. I think I can sum this up. Reds: Let's put Griffey through waivers to trade him to the White Sox so we can get his s***ty contract off the books. /Griffey reaches Yankees Yankees: AHA! We'll block the White Sox from getting better. We'll put in a claim for Griffey. Reds: Take him...and his contract Yankees: ................f***! Reds: Tehehehe

Are we sure they're going to get 10 starts? If September rolls around and we have a healthy lead, won't some scrubs be getting starts?

QUOTE(Brian @ Aug 8, 2005 -> 11:10 AM) If Bruce reports a rumor and it doesn't happen, that's not his fault. How do you know something wasn't being talked about and fell through? Bruce has been covering baseball since the 60's or 70's. To say he is a moron is ignorant. He has seen things and met people that you can only dream of. Ha, you seem to be awfully offended. Are you Bruce Levine's son?

I will probably go absolutely apes*** if we lose in the first round. I'll be really pissed if we lose in the ALCS. And I'll just be really disappointed if we lose in the World Series.

QUOTE(UofIChiSox @ Aug 8, 2005 -> 10:49 AM) Us being their b**** is exactly why we should hope they stay hot, so we'd face them in the ALCS and not the Divisional Series. I think we'd better hope they get knocked out in the ALDS by whomever they play.

Well, the Palmeiro news broke about this time last week. So if this thing's gonna come out, it'll probably be soon, right?

QUOTE(Steff @ Aug 8, 2005 -> 08:24 AM) Not a movie.. but I watched Chris Rock on HBO last night (taped show from DC from last year I think)... good God that man is hysterical. That's a good one. If you like stand-up, I'd check out Eddie Murphy's Delirious and Dave Chappelle's Killing 'em softly (I think that's what it's called).

QUOTE(Soxnbears01 @ Aug 7, 2005 -> 10:06 PM) relax, most people don't know everything about every team. i've heard alot dumber things Ha, don't worry. The guy is my friend, I'm not flipping out on him. He's just not the brightest and I was making fun of him for it.

I just wanted to throw this out there. This is the conversation I just had online with a Red Sox fan when I asked him who will win the AL Cy Young this year: Dumbass: Garland and Colon Dumbass: i would've said halladay if he hadn't gotten hurt Me: no buehrle? Dumbass: i don't know, he hasn't shown me wnough yet Dumbass: but he's a solid dark horse Me: his 2.79 ERA and 13 wins don't do it for you? Dumbass: lol Dumbass: not to say he isn't a solid contender, but to be honest, i think garland will prob win Dumbass: guy hasn't had a bad outing all year Me: he's had two, actually

QUOTE(WSFAN35 @ Aug 7, 2005 -> 08:52 PM) Any by Congress getting involved in MLB's policy, kids are going to be less likely to take steroids. I find that laughable. The kids that are going to do it are going to do it regardless. I just think that Congress has a lot more pressing matters than getting involved in this. Knowing that Congress is watching over your sport like a hawk wouldn't stop people from doing them? Knowing that you can actually punished wouldn't stop people? Alright.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Aug 7, 2005 -> 08:59 PM) Saved me some typing. I'm more worried about the votes getting split and someone > slipping in. Kind of like Pods getting in over two Yankmees But I think a large majority of voters will be voting Garland or Buehrle, with barely anyone voting for a Zito/Harden. I just don't think the A's pitcher would get enough, even with Garland and Buehrle splitting. If it was out of 100 voters (I don't know the number, just using an arbitrarty number), I think it would be something like 45, 45, and 10 if there was a split at all.

The game against the A's in 2000 when Singleton got on base in the bottom of the 9th when the Sox were down a run. He broke to steal 2nd and the catcher threw the ball into center, then he advanced to 3rd. He scored on a balk after that. They held the A's scoreless in the top of the 10th, then Jose Valentin walked to lead off the bottom of the inning. Thomas hit a line shot right off the top of the wall and Valentin scored from 1st. The play at the plate was so close and Valentin's slide was perfect. There was also just the perfect little delay for the ump to call him safe. And when he did, the crowd went insane.

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Aug 7, 2005 -> 08:51 PM) Garland. Beuhrle's ERA is lower but ultimately, they will go with thw guy has been nearly perfect all year, and so far, outside of 1 start, Garland has been perfect. Two starts. One against the Rangers (I think) and last week against the Blue Jays. I think Garland has also beaten the harder teams this year.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Aug 7, 2005 -> 08:50 PM) Good thread. This is very tough to decide. Yes, Garland has the edge in wins, but I don't think that's all Buehrle's fault either. Buehrle's hasn't had the run support he had in 2004, so a lot of games are tied when he has to come out. Something I'd put in Garland's favor though is everytime we've needed a stopper out there, Jon's got the job done. JG's proven himself many times this year, that he's finally for real. Thanks. And I think you can make the same argument for Garland. I think he's been screwed two or three times out of wins, too. QUOTE(WSFAN35 @ Aug 7, 2005 -> 08:50 PM) I don't consider three wins a big advantage. I think they'll be pretty close come the end of the season. Buehrle has a better chance of winning the Cy Young than Garland, because he's been good for so long and writers will really take notice of that. I'd consider three wins a big advantage. Say Garland wins 20 and Buehrle wins 17, or 21 and 18. I think it looks big enough to make a difference.

I know, I'm getting ahead of myself. But, I keep thinking about this question, and I can't come up with a definitive answer for myself. It looks right now that a pitcher from the Sox will win the Cy Young. With the injury to Halladay and the sub-par pitching from most other teams, it seems almost certain that the Cy Young award is going to Garland or Buehrle. There's pitchers with outside chances, such as Zito, but there isn't much of a chance that it will happen. Yes, things can go to hell at any time, but one of these two guys are going to get it if things continue anywhere near the way they are. Garland has a big advantage in the win category, but Buehrle's ERA is much lower and he's considered the ace. So, who would you pick and why?

QUOTE(WSFAN35 @ Aug 7, 2005 -> 08:06 PM) Seriously, give me a f***in break. Congress doesn't have anything better to do than to intervene in a professional sport's drug testing policy? Is it really their concern? I personally think that in the grand scheme of things, professional sports don't mean squat, and I don't understand why Congress is adding this to the top of their priority list. Well, considering steroids are illegal and the fact that professional athletes are role models, I think it's a big concern. Don't kid yourself. When athletes make millions of dollars by using illegal drugs (that are immoral and harmful), younger people have more reason to use them, too. If you have a choice to be better and make millions upon millions of dollars, or to just feel better about yourself (also a big concern with adolescents), a lot of people will take that chance.

Oh, I just wanted to add something. I'm sorry your team is one of the worst in baseball, Richie Sexson. They'll be that way for a few more years.

Ah, I missed being able to say this to NUKE. HELL YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Crede almost throws another one away.

A 31-year-old rookie is making us look awful. They better get their heads out of their asses.

It seemed like it took an awful long time for Uribe to catch up to that ball in the OF. Oh well, hopefully that was Garland's big inning.

After that inning, I feel really great about our chances.

QUOTE(beck72 @ Aug 7, 2005 -> 01:13 PM) FWIW, GEorge Offman said this AM that 3 sources confirmed that a Griffey trade was in the works, with Griffey agreeing to waive his no-trade to the sox Hold on. Did Offman mean that a trade was in the works as in a few weeks ago before the deadline, or was in the works as in right now? It seems that everyone thinks you mean it's going on right now. QUOTE(ScottPodRulez22 @ Aug 7, 2005 -> 01:17 PM) Has he passed waivers? QUOTE(Soxnbears01 @ Aug 7, 2005 -> 01:19 PM) and once again, i'll get my hopes up QUOTE(Tadahito15 @ Aug 7, 2005 -> 01:48 PM) You gave my stomache butterflies

^ Everything they do now is just kind of sad. They've fallen off so badly that it almost seems impossible. I don't even know how to explain it.

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Aug 7, 2005 -> 12:17 PM) Saw "Hide and Seek", not bad, pretty good twist in it. If by pretty good twist you mean that everyone in the theater knew who the killer was half an hour into the movie, then yes