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Bears re signed Okoye

QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Dec 12, 2012 -> 06:39 PM) Kirk signed for 2/8, so, yeah. Ah, I was under the impression it was 2/6M, but still 2 million shouldn't be the deal breaker

QUOTE (RZZZA @ Dec 12, 2012 -> 06:28 PM) The way I understand it is that The Bulls offered the Grizzlies a sign and trade and it didn't work out. The only way they could get him was through a S&T. And we all know the luck the Bulls have had working out trades with the Grizzlies... I think that is only the speculation from the article. Mayo ended up signing 2/8 mil, second year being player option. I think the Bulls could have paid that without a S&T

QUOTE (RZZZA @ Dec 12, 2012 -> 06:22 PM) I'll just copy pasta it "O.J. Mayo appears a longshot for Bulls Yes, Mayo and Derrick Rose are buddies and they’re both part of the same star-studded offseason workout group that trains in Los Angeles. Unless Mayo elects to accept a pay cut while taking the Bulls’ long-term potential into account, however, Chicago doesn’t appear to be his landing spot. As it stands, the Bulls would likely have a shot to acquire Mayo if they choose not to match the lucrative offer sheet Omer Asik will soon sign with the Houston Rockets, leaving them with the full mid-level exception at their disposal. It would be unfair to expect Mayo to take anything less than that exception – worth around $5 million annually – but even that proposal might not be enough to ink him to a contract. The Suns had freed up approximately $8-9 million in salary cap space before claiming the recently-amnestied Luis Scola on Sunday. Then, they gave themselves some relief to remain in the hunt for Mayo, Courtney Lee and Shannon Brown by waiving Josh Childress under the amnesty clause. Given the fact that Phoenix will almost assuredly be able to offer Mayo a bigger, better deal than the Bulls – as well as a run-and-gun style that’s conducive to scoring and potentially a larger role – the Suns are seemingly the frontrunners for him. Nevertheless, the question begs: Could the Bulls work out a sign-and-trade with the Grizzlies? They have reportedly dangled Rip Hamilton and his expiring $5 million deal in trade talks, but it is hard to imagine that a team would want to take on the 34-year-old who looked fragile and had unproductive stretches a season ago. " "Could the Bulls have really had Mayo? I still have my doubts that O.J. Mayo is worth the 10+ million a year I thought he would make in the NBA this summer, but what I never had any doubts about was whether he was worth a one year deal the size that Kirk Hinrich had or a three year deal at just over the MLE. Some of these issues are timing, but in an ideal Bulls off-season, they trade Kyle Korver to Atlanta and take O.J. Mayo from Memphis in a sign and trade back. Of course Mayo would have had to agree to a 3/19 deal vs the 2/8 with the second year being a player option that he did. Assuming he feels he'll get 10 million a year next season, he could ultimately have upside of 3/24 over the first three years instead of 3/19, of course his downside is 2/8 vs 3/19, so it would have been a pretty solid move for him to take the 3/19. The Bulls could have sent John Lucas to Memphis as well in a sign and trade for the minimum with cash to cover his salary with an agreement in place that the Grizzlies waive him [though then Lucas would have the prospect of some other team waiver claiming his deal, so those details would need to work out] in order to raise the offer to Mayo up to 3/23 which would effectively give him as much upside as what he's likely to achieve on his short one year deal while guaranteeing him more money. In short, it could have worked out, and the Bulls could have kept Mayo long term if they signed him using the S&T. If they signed him to the one year + player option deal Dallas did the upside is much smaller. Still better than what we did, but we wouldn't be able to retain him long term." Paste the link with this please. I read the article, it was written a week after the Bulls had signed Kirk Hinrich. So instead of going hard after the target you say they wanted badly(Mayo), they signed kirk and made Mayo an incredible longshot that required multiple dominos from multiple teams to fall. The article even cites "As it stands, the Bulls would likely have a shot to acquire Mayo if they choose not to match the lucrative offer sheet Omer Asik will soon sign with the Houston Rockets, leaving them with the full mid-level exception at their disposal.". They didnt match, and they still didnt go after Mayo. Like i said, they cast their lot with Kirk. Its unfortunate, but it is what they did.

QUOTE (RZZZA @ Dec 12, 2012 -> 06:16 PM) Well, after typing in "O.J. Mayo Bulls" into Google, I've found a few more likely scenarios for why the Bulls didn't land Mayo beyond "They wanted Kirk instead", since that is patently ridiculous on its face. Well by all means, please expound

QUOTE (RZZZA @ Dec 12, 2012 -> 06:06 PM) Something complex went on there for sure, I doubt its as simple as saying "They wanted Kirk instead" Unfortunately, this decision looks like pretty much all of the offseason decisions that were made, so we will have to agree to disagree.

QUOTE (RZZZA @ Dec 12, 2012 -> 06:02 PM) Why didn't they pursue Mayo in the first place is my question, I know they wanted him badly. They were prepared to trade Brewer for him a few years ago I guess its probably because they expected him to command a larger salary than they were prepared to give. Then they sign Kirk, then lo and behold Mayo signs for an amount they could have afforded You would think they would have at least tried to negotiate if they wanted him that badly.

QUOTE (RZZZA @ Dec 12, 2012 -> 05:56 PM) There's just no way the Bulls would pass up on OJ Mayo to sign Kirk, something else happened that prevented the Bulls from signing Mayo. I would bet a million dollars on it. Kirk and the Bulls came to an agreement before the FA signing moratorium was concluded, KC Johnson was reporting it as early as July 8th. OJ Mayo agreed to terms July 17th. The Bulls didnt make an effort because they already cast their lot with Captain Kirk. Maybe something behind closed doors happened, Mayo said he wanted to play with Dirk or something along that line, but I havent read anything like that. All I know is that the Bulls jumped on Kirk immediately, and Mayo waited a week and a half after to sign

QUOTE (RZZZA @ Dec 12, 2012 -> 04:13 PM) What were the reasons the Bulls didn't get OJ? I remember we tried but it didn't work out for some reason Kirk

QUOTE (RZZZA @ Dec 12, 2012 -> 02:19 PM) Oh noez, not another big target chase. Dwight might not re-sign in L.A. either, are we gonna have to go through all that again? *sigh* What are the chances that the Bulls lure a big time player to come to the Bulls? I don't want to get my hopes up again After the last few years, I'm really on the fence about Dwight anymore. He is either the most immature and selfish player in the NBA, or the people giving him advice are making LeBrons team look like professionals

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 12, 2012 -> 12:42 PM) In the AFC, I'd be very surprised if either the Patriots or Broncos didn't make the Super Bowl. In the NFC, I think the 49ers & Packers are the best two teams, but GB struggles vs. the Giants and I don't trust the 49ers QB situation completely. GB and San Francisco have struggled against the Giants. I think Kaepernick will end up being a good QB, but I think he might have some costly newbie moments in the playoffs

After that first couple weeks, he fell off. And I certainly didnt see that high walk low K high OBP guy that I expected. And he also folded like a tent vs the Tigers, which really sucked

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 12, 2012 -> 12:39 PM) jon greenberg ‏@espnchijon . @OzzieGuillen tells his website: "I have a feeling you might be seeing me on TV somewhere in the future." i didnt know that Telemundo was hiring

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 12, 2012 -> 12:33 PM) Does anyone have any confidence in who will make the Super Bowl? I have no clue. Today I'll say Pats vs 49ers but my picks change weekly. You can never count out the Giants if they get hot

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Dec 12, 2012 -> 12:24 PM) @TyDunne Marshall: I don't like the Green Bay Packers. I really don't like their players. I'll play this like it's my last game. I love it. Hopefully Jay throws it to him this time, and not Woodson and company

@Dbacks: OFFICIAL: #Dbacks acquire SS Didi Gregorius, LHP Tony Sipp & 1B Lars Anderson from CLE for RHPs Trevor Bauer, Matt Albers and Bryan Shaw

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 11, 2012 -> 01:34 PM) I'm going to go ask a Mr. Vilma about this, and I'll get you a statement from his attorney. If there is a ladder of Commissioner bad, Goodell is on the first floor, and Bettman is cleaning the skydeck of the Sears tower. So Goodell pissed off a linebacker, who cares. Bettman has lost 2 1/2 seasons.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Dec 11, 2012 -> 12:52 PM) So forgive my Superman movie franchise ignorance, are they essentially pretending Superman Returns doesnt exist and rebooting the reboot? Much like The Amazing Spiderman, this version of Superman is following a different Superman origin story. DC relaunched all of their comic titles under "The New 52" where storylines were tweaked and characters were given slightly different back histories and runs. it gives new artists and writers a chance to do their own thing without having to follow previous history to the letter. Similar to how Tim Burton followed a version of Batman where Joker killed Waynes parents, whereas Nolan followed a version where a mere thug kills them.

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Dec 11, 2012 -> 12:30 PM) Yeah Superman looks awesome. It's about time. I love Michael Shannon as Zod. I posted a trailer with him playing the Iceman mob hitman, and that is getting rave reviews at the film festivals. I saw him in Take Shelter and loved it, he really played a man at a crossroads convincingly.

There is going to be a book written about this sometime, and I want to know what happened here. Goodells case must have really been built on a bunch of heresay

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Dec 11, 2012 -> 11:27 AM) love it

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 11, 2012 -> 12:25 PM) Pro Football Weekly ‏@ProFootballWkly Via @gregaiello, Paul Tagliabue has "vacated all player discipline" from the #Saints bounty scandal. paging Roger Goodell. paging Roger Goodell. Please pick up your balls at the lost and found

QUOTE (YASNY @ Dec 11, 2012 -> 12:16 PM) Just a quick question here ... Has anyone heard anything about this Mexican singer that died in a plane crash a day or two ago, Jenni Rivera ... being Estaban Loaiza's wife? I thought I saw it mentioned online while at work, but work interferred and I lost it. Yeah, they were married for a few years, 2010-October of this year

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 11, 2012 -> 12:14 PM) Matt Spiegel ‏@MattSpiegel670 TheBears have placed Robbie Gould on Injured Reserve. Olindo Mare will sign. OLINDO!