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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 22, 2013 -> 05:31 PM) Since apparently google doesn't work for my stalker, here you go. De Aza .649 OPS vs .693 career PK .766 vs .858 (or even .857 last year) Gordo .649 vs .693 Dunn .421 vs .865 (or even .801 LY, or .569 in 2011 by far his worst year ever), not to mention his .100 RISP Viciedo .646 vs .737, plus .200 RISP Keppinger .315 vs .722, plus .091 with RISP Ramirez even with his .316 average is .788 vs his career .721. While he is hitting for average, he isn't hitting for much power yet. So there isn't a lot of regression to the means to be had there. Rios is .984 vs .771, so plenty of regression room there, though much less if you look at his LY of .850 with any faith Flowers is at .794, with a small sample .710 career. His minor league numbers career out to .876, with .814 in his triple A time, so even a reasonable growth with playing full time puts him pretty close to where he is now. Yes, there is plenty of room for movement even to the norms, let alone anyone actually having a "good" year versus their career norms. Also common sense will state that a movement from even .170 with RISP to .250 with RISP is an extra hit with RISP every 12 ABs or so, working out to about a run a game extra. That alone wins many games. De Aza has a. 742 OPS according to Yahoo.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 22, 2013 -> 05:01 PM) Yes, all of them should improve, and in some cases drastically. The team is not going to hit .230 for the season, and .170 with RISP for the season. Expecting that is the definition of asinine. Expecting players to hit to expectations is not asinine.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 22, 2013 -> 04:41 PM) Pretty much the entire offense, sans a couple of hitters who are actually hitting normally. So, am I to believe you think Alex Rios with a .984 OPS is normal? Alexei Ramirez hitting .306 is normal? They are above expectations. Should we expect more from De Aza? His OPS is right in line with last season. Adam Dunn? He's proven he can do this for an entire season. Dayan Viciedo? There's zero patience there. He and the great career-backup Jeff Keppinger have yet to draw a walk this season. Keppinger should hit a bit better, but he's no difference maker. Gordon Beckham? Well, he's injured but was actually hitting .300. Tyler Flowers? Expecting anything more than he's given so far (.229 average, .794 OPS) would be completely asinine. Who haven't we covered yet? Gillaspie? He's hitting .300. Paulie? He's 37 - but I guess slight improvement could be expected. So, really - tell me why I am wrong on anyone above. Show me where I should expect improvement in this God-awful offense while, of course, expecting Rios/Ramirez to come back down a bit?

QUOTE (Knuckles @ Apr 18, 2013 -> 12:18 PM) Damn that was a quick adjustment, what do these guys do in the offseason. mastib8

The ambassadors are Jedi Knights, I believe.

QUOTE (Cali @ Apr 22, 2013 -> 04:28 PM) So he can get zero support from the "hitters" in the "offense"? I just meant more for the fact that the rotation is the bomb. There's nothing wrong with that facet of the ballclub if Danks replaces Axelrod and can somehow show he has value to other ballclubs.

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 22, 2013 -> 04:10 PM) Yes, we are going to hit like this for the rest of the year. This has drama queen written all over it. No upside for a team hitting .232 with a .170 mark with RISP? This has to be a joke. So tell me the players on the roster you expect to perform better?

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Apr 22, 2013 -> 04:02 PM) It's April 22 and the division looks as s***ty as ever, so the playoffs are attainable. No reason to sell all the pieces today for opportunities at prospects that might not hit. If they are out of it in July, then that's a different story. Ha! The playoffs are NOT attainable for the 2013 Chicago White Sox. Get real.

Speaking of Hawk, did anyone see the Dad at Fenway this weekend who pushes his kid through the Marathon every year? Dude's a dead-ringer for Hawk.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Apr 22, 2013 -> 03:29 PM) Who are all these difference-making draft picks that the Royals & Pirates lost that kept them from making the playoffs? You're missing the point entirely. With our "studs" we still suck. When trying to hit big on prospects, it pays to have more opportunities. Keeping Konerko and Rios around here is in no way going to lead to a World Series Championship. Unless - you think it will?

The best approach to rebuilding is moving your aging assets in years where you're clearly not going to contend. Paul Konerko Alex Rios Gavin Floyd Jake Peavy Parts from one of baseball's best bullpens. Good God, sadly, that's it. That's how bad this team is. There's NOTHING to build around, though, but are we that much worse an MLB team without the players above? If the Sox are going to suck (and they are) with or without these players, they might as well be gone and moved to bring in some good prospects. There are teams ready to compete out there willing to move young players - it happens every year. The White Sox have to stop acting like they're trying to win when they're not trying to win. This offense is abysmal and there's just no chance this team is going to win 80 games, let alone to sneak into the playoffs and get swept in the first round.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 22, 2013 -> 03:17 PM) You are acting like there is no more downside to be had. Listen, we can all see where this team is headed. Anyone with a f***ing brain in their head can see that there's very little on the offensive side and absolutely no upside. These players are all terrible, save two who should be moved for prospects if possible. Honestly, this offense looks worse than 2007.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 22, 2013 -> 03:16 PM) The reason that we have been able to keep most of our talent is because we haven't been driving fans away with rebuilds. WTF are you talking about? You're acting like the White Sox attendance has been rocking.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Apr 22, 2013 -> 03:01 PM) KC is much improved this year whether Sox fans believe it or not is up to them. Is anyone here saying there's no chance they're improved?

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Apr 22, 2013 -> 03:11 PM) Sweet. Then we can become like the Pirates & Royals and all of their difference-making draft picks over the past 25 years! The difference? We consistently have a high payroll. You need a foundation, then you pay around that foundation. Maybe if either franchise kept their talent when it got to the point of being paid they wouldn't be on such long droughts.

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Apr 22, 2013 -> 03:07 PM) Fans don't care about difference-making draft picks! You could put Dick Allen the poster at Soxtalk out there instead of Adam Dunn and there'd be a better chance I'd want to go to a game. Dunn is a deal-breaker at this point. It's obviously unfortunate given his signing was a ballsy move for the club, but teams have stopped playing better players than Dunn despite contracts that are worse.

Conor Gillaspie - 6 hitter.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 22, 2013 -> 01:55 PM) Just use your head. Both runners would have been moving if a steal was called, unless Konerko missed the sign. Konerko could have got a huge lead and jump. If there ever was a time he could have easily made it to second, that would be the time, and with a LH hitter up, the throw will almost always go to 3rd. The odds greatly favor Rios either misreading a sign or making the attempt on his own. But you want to complain about the manager, so you ignore logic. There's just absolutely no reason for Rios or Robin to have him running there. But honestly, who cares, every loss is a step closer to a difference-making draft pick.

I stand by my stance that Dayan Viciedo is a wretched baseball player.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 22, 2013 -> 10:03 AM) Christopher Kamka ‏@ckamka 10h Sunday, Adam Dunn broke the tie with Ron Kittle and now has 46 three-strikeout games in a White Sox uniform; most from 1916-current He's not a Major League Baseball player. He's a f***ing joke.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Apr 22, 2013 -> 10:16 AM) Just downloaded ready player one, was up unti 2 am reading it. Wow. It's one of my favorite books of recent memory.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 22, 2013 -> 09:09 AM) My response to this is that society has long deemed this to be an acceptable punishment. Whether or not one agrees with it, this type of punishment could meet a reasonable standard of decency, it has been judged to meet the standard of the 8th amendment. I for one am bothered a lot more by the culture of prison rape in this country than I am by the death penalty, to be perfectly honest. The "culture" of prison rape is no more than the "culture" of shivving or the "culture" of beatings in prison. It's a bunch of horrible people confined to one area. Unless you have these idiots on lockdown 24/7, there's no avoiding rape in prison any more than you can avoid rape outside of prison. Bad people do bad things. In this case, it's a bunch of men who want to f*** something and sometimes the thing they f*** happens to be an inmate that has not given his consent. I don't see why you're concerned with this at all. Prison is prison. F*ck em.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 22, 2013 -> 08:44 AM) I totally agree with the former. I care about the latter in the sense that I care about society having some basic amount of dignity, I just put prison rape well outside of those bounds. People who are in prison have been deemed unsafe / ineligible to be part of society. Prison rape happens all the time because these people are disturbed, f***ed up individuals who don't play by the rules (mostly). Trying to explain it is impossible. That said, it's part of the culture and one of the many reasons I don't go setting off explosions at marathons.