IlliniKrush

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jan 16, 2014 -> 07:41 PM) Pods struck out more looking in clutch situations than anybody in the history of life. Thanks for the flashback. Inside fastball, hands out, belt back, stand there, dumb look, bat down, walk back slowly.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jan 16, 2014 -> 06:44 PM) I'm pretty sure he was just fine in the clubhouse. The reason he bounced around so much is cause he was a light hitting, awful defensive of whose injuries destroyed his one plus tool. Whoa, catching the ball like it's a falling brick does not make you awful defensively. That's talent.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 16, 2014 -> 03:25 PM) No such thing as players only go to coaches? You won't have 1 person agree with you. Recruiting is a huge part of a coaches job. The reason some of the same schools are always good is because they always have good recruiters. Illinois' recruiting dropped off. Is that because of the coach or the school? I showed you Self did better in his 3 years at Illinois than his first 3 in Kansas. Wrong. If you think recruiting is recruits picking ONLY based on coaches, you're 100% wrong. Not saying coaching isn't a huge influence on recruiting, if not the biggest in many cases. But if you think that's the only reason, LOL. Why does Oregon do what they do with football facilities, for example? Uniforms? Recruiting. Top recruits have Kansas, Duke, UNC etc. on their mind before they've even met one of the coaches. There's your starting point. QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 16, 2014 -> 03:27 PM) Not for Self IMO. For others, definitely. He would have landed the same blue chippers he gets now in Champaign. Champaign is nothing special, but have you ever been to Lawrence, KS? Self would have done a great job at Illinois. Not arguing that. But the point isn't "what's in Lawrence, KS." Or comparing it to Champaign. The point is the history of that program, who's there playing right now, Allen fieldhouse, on and on and on.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 16, 2014 -> 03:00 PM) You are going on and on about how great of a program Illinois has been historically and then post this crap. Players go to coaches not schools. Loyola would be top 25 with Self, I have no doubt. The guy is a great recruiter. Do you think Cliff Alexander picked Kansas or the coach? Woud h go to Kansas because they are Kansas if Bruce Weber were coaching?Why did Charlie Villenueva decommit when Self left if was all about the school? What do these guys have in Lawrence, KS that you can't find on just about every other campus in the US? It's the coaching staff. 3 years at ILL 78-24 1 sweet 16, 1 elite 8, one second round first 3 years at KU 72-24 2 first round exits, 1 elite 8. B Yes, it was just as easy for him at Illinois as it was at KU. What KU is doing now is probably what Illinois would have been doing if he had stayed. You want to talk about posting crap. He picked Kansas. Groce at Kansas lands Cliff. There is no such thing as players only go to coaches. Must be pure coincidence that top programs always get good talent, regardless of coach. Sorry, you can only sell s***ty Loyola so much. You need more than just a coach. You need something to sell.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 16, 2014 -> 01:51 PM) I really think expecting Illinois to make it to the Sweet 16 regularly is pushing it. I know a lot of their fans like to exaggerate how great they have been, and they have obviously been a good program, but in the last 50 years they have made the Sweet 16 eight times. The Elite 8 four times and the Final Four twice. It is still pretty good, but not exactly College Basketball Blue Blood Program territory. Bill Self, who many of the U of I fans I know, slammed as not a good coach...cheats on his wife with cheerleaders...when he went to Kansas has 7 sweet 16's,5 Elite 8s, and 2 Final Fours his first 10 years at Kansas. I always wondered why he would leave Champaign. He was recruiting well, had Chicago in his backyard. Maybe he didn't want to play the Chicago recruiting game. From what I understand, it makes Chicago politics seem tame. I guess it depends on your definition of regular, but it's absolutely not pushing it. I won't exaggerate anything, I'll let the numbers speak for themselves. You picked an arbitrary time frame and then gave no context compared to other programs. BTW, no one has ever said we're one of the blue bloods or truly elite teams. That's laughable. We're basically the best program to never have won a title, for whatever it's worth. Not a great award to win. But regularly expecting sweet 16's at Illinois is far from pushing it. What are the expectations at MSU? Indiana? OSU? Wisconsin? Should we have less of an expectation? These are from 2 years ago. I'm not going to bother looking up the updated numbers, as they haven't changed much. This accurately gives you where Illinois falls on the basketball landscape. So yeah, zero reason to not expect "regular" sweet 16 appearances. And if you can't figure out why Self would leave Illinois for Kansas, I can't really help you there. One of the best programs of all time, and it's confusing why you'd take that job? QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 16, 2014 -> 02:31 PM) Yeah, but he was the king in Champaign. Had he stayed, you add Charlie Villenueva to that title game team, and maybe they win it all. Many fans turned on him when he left. I don't think Kansas is an easier place to recruit for Self, maybe for others, than Champaign. I think if he coached Loyola they would be top 25. IMO, there had to be more. Maybe they had better toupee guys in KS. Oh Jesus, you're out of your mind. Loyola would be top 25? LMAO. You think Champaign is easier to recruit for Self than Kansas? OK, right.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Jan 15, 2014 -> 08:38 PM) Nnanna Egwu is horrendous. I don't get it at all. Remember the Miami game? Thought that was the start of a leap.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jan 15, 2014 -> 10:42 AM) That sucks then. I think you need to stop thinking like that though. Sounds pretty boring. I didn't rush the court last year vs Indiana but for those who did though it looked like they had fun. I personally had fun celebrating in the stands. Them rushing certainly did not affect my fun. To each their own though, just let them do what they want to do. At least that one had some sense behind it.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jan 15, 2014 -> 10:37 AM) That sounds like a terrible best moment. To me the best moment was winning all those basketball games. No, totally the worst, because we didn't rush the floor. Just wasn't fun enough.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jan 15, 2014 -> 10:30 AM) Looking for sanctity from a bunch of 20 year old crazed mostly male college students is still hilarious to me. Who cares? You won. As for the Krush good Lord, using the word suck is a capital offense. So yeah their holier than thou attitude doesn't surprise me on anything. God, I'm living with such regret, we really should have been rushing every game in 04-05 to have fun and show everyone how surprised we were that we won. One of the best moments was NOT rushing vs Wake Forest.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jan 15, 2014 -> 10:11 AM) They do do it because it's fun I imagine. If they have some other reason to, I certainly don't give a s***. I'm not going to sit and pretend to be all high and mighty about the legality or safety of it. Then I'd just be an old man yelling at clouds. But I give you that it is a better reason then some stupid made up standard that you should only rush the court given some circumstances. Looking for sanctity from a bunch of 20 year old crazed mostly male college students is hilarious to me. High and mighty. Lol. It makes the win look stupid and surprising. Its the overrated chant, just 10x worse if the situation doesn't call for it. And actually, there were games where a few people would want to rush and the majority told them no. So there can indeed be discretion. But hey, games would be more fun if everyone rushed every game. Why stop in college? Why not pro games too?

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jan 14, 2014 -> 11:33 PM) The Krush has to be one of the worst student sections out there. I'm glad I was not in it either. I'm not giving any reason for rushing the court. I simply don't care what college kids decide to do with their time. If you dont like the idea of it for legality or danger issues then you have to be against all court rushings. Haha, whatever you say. They need more guys like you SO EVERYONE RUSHES THE COURT EVERY GAME. You are giving a reason, you're saying because it's fun. I don't like the idea of it for multiple reasons. If there was never another floor rush, I'd be ok with it.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jan 14, 2014 -> 10:45 PM) I am crying laughing so hard at this. http://deadspin.com/comcast-sportsnet-airs...with-1501633812? utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_facebook&utm_source=deadspin_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow Ohhhhhh nooooooo

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jan 14, 2014 -> 11:22 PM) I figured. Your it's fun reasoning is one hell of a slippery slope. Thank God you weren't in krush.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jan 14, 2014 -> 11:16 PM) So you're against all court rushing then now right? Yes, I'm against all college fun.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jan 14, 2014 -> 11:05 PM) There's no reason for any justification needed whatsoever. That's the whole point. It's probably drunk college kids celebrating. Oh my god, the horror. Why does anyone care? If you cared about the danger then at least tell me youre against every court rush no matter the "standard". At least that would make sense. Wrong. You do need a reason. As it's illegal to rush a field or court, you do need to try to make up some justification. Fun? Yeah, no.

QUOTE (farmteam @ Jan 14, 2014 -> 10:00 PM) Yes it was. We're just going to disagree on this one. I said it at the time and I'll say it again, but people outside the school didn't understand how much that win meant for the program. It was ridiculous. I don't have to go to the school to evaluate it. The whole thing was overreaction central. QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jan 14, 2014 -> 10:17 PM) Lolwut Who said it's the only way to have fun in college? You don't care that it's dangerous or stupid. We've had this argument before and there's apparently some standard that needs to be met for a bunch of half drunk college kids to have the audacity to touch the hardwood. So if it's fun, do it, it's college. That's the dumbest justification ever. And yeah, there is a standard. And actually, I do care that it's dangerous.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jan 14, 2014 -> 10:50 PM) Oh. My. God. Holy s***

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jan 14, 2014 -> 09:25 PM) I hate rushing the court elitism. They're college kids. Let them have fun. If they just beat Savannah State by 40 and want to rush the court than so be it. I hate rushing the court flippancy. OMG RUSH THE COURT WE WON A GAME SO FUN I'M IN COLLEGE! It's dangerous, and it's stupid. Rushing is the only way to have fun in college? QUOTE (farmteam @ Jan 14, 2014 -> 09:39 PM) Eh, it's not elitism, but I'm the biggest hypocrite in the world on this point because I've rushed the court at Indiana against not-exactly-elite Illinois and Minnesota teams (though I maintain the Illinois rush was legit. The Minnesota one was dumb and I only did it because if I didn't I legitimately would have been trampled.). I just think that hey, we're supposed to be back competing for the top of again, we're not down on our luck anymore, it's time to act like it. Kinda as if rushing the court against Kentucky was the pinnacle, and after that it was not enough to just rush the court because it was a monumental program win -- it had to be a legit, #1 team win. But like I said I'm a hypocrite on this point. That was one of the most ridiculous floor rushes ever. It was not legit whatsoever.

QUOTE (He_Gawn @ Jan 14, 2014 -> 06:14 PM) Wisconsin getting away with murder at Assembly hall. That never happens. LOL. Wisconsin had 9 fouls that half, some questionable too.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jan 14, 2014 -> 12:53 PM) Falling on ice must run in the Carbondale family. I have a giant scar on my forehead where 15 stitches went in after I bit it bad during the ice storms in Carbondale in 08. Lol, this makes it sound like you were walking down the sidewalk and happened to fall on accident.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jan 13, 2014 -> 04:08 PM) Ya, unfortunately for me within the last 2 years a lot of my college and high school buddies have gotten married and/or knocked up girlfriends/wives so it's getting more difficult for me to put something like this together. But it's something I've always wanted to do and I want to make it happen before I become creepy old guy. Easy there, killer.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 12, 2014 -> 05:52 PM) It has nothing to do with the fans. It's all about the players. You are allowed to go straight back to the huddle after a play. You don't have to talk s*** and get in people's faces after EVERY SINGLE play. But fire and passion!

Juice

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jan 11, 2014 -> 10:59 AM) So so true. Krush, how is the little one? Starting to crawl yet? So far so good, you? No crawling yet though. It's definitely fun when they can start to grab toys and interact a bit.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jan 10, 2014 -> 10:23 PM) After receiving yet another raise today, I now officially make double what I did a year ago. It's weird. After having a budget always and forever, I just find myself with more cash than I could imagine spending. That's with a huge savings account. Adulthood. Awesome. QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 11, 2014 -> 10:19 AM) have some kids, they will take care of your money problem in no time! This x100.