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QUOTE (Elgin Slim @ Jan 5, 2011 -> 09:00 AM) Next Question: Did KW vastly overpay for Jackson, given that he got screwed by Rizzo who backed out of trading him Dunn? If so, what would the market bear for Jackson if we traded him today? Would his price be the same as the Sox paid because that he is still just 27, has wicked stuff, and if some pitching coach could unlock him he could still be an ace? Or would his price be a couple of low level prospects? Do you think that Jackson is what his career has suggested(a #4-5 pitcher) or could he still be better? The reason why I ask is that if the Sox could trade Jackson to the Yankees for a trade deadline Hudson equivalent(such as a guy like Nova) and use that money to sign Soriano, What are they waiting for? My guess is that KW vastly overpaid. Well, Jackson has already lost some value because he's only under contract for another year, as opposed to the year and a half when we traded for him. We got the benefit of having him for last year's stretch run. We also paid a fair amount for that.

I doubt Soriano settles for an incentive-based deal, he's coming off two healthy seasons, right? Maybe he'd take a reasonable 1-year deal ($8M?) to close for a contender and try the FA market again next year, but still seems like a long shot.

Jenks questioned Ozzie's managing. A proportionate response would have been to question Jenks' pitching. Oney took it to another level by getting into personal issues, and it was completely uncalled for, IMO.

The reports on these numbers (Cubs, White Sox, etc) are a little strange. Not really buying it. If he took $1.5M from the Cubs, I'm guessing that if there was a Sox offer for $3.5M, it was pulled once Crain signed.

The only thing I can see is if the Yankees miss on Lee and get desperate.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 8, 2010 -> 03:28 PM) Whatever happened to Cowley's claim Konerko needed at least $15 million a year? I'm sure Konerko was asking for it, just like Dunn wanted to start the bidding at $60M/4 years. Doesn't mean they'll get it.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 8, 2010 -> 10:57 AM) You're astounded? I want JJ Putz as my damned closer. PK precluded that from happening. Stop acting like his kids would go hungry if he took 3/$30. If someone was going to need to take a $$$ hit to bring Putz back, why does that fall on Konerko? If it's just about who has the most money to afford the hit, then why wasn't it on Reinsdorf to suck up a couple extra million? His kids wouldn't go hungry. Seems pretty arbitrary (and unfair) to link Konerko to Putz like that. As it is, Konerko agreed to defer some $$$ (lowering the present value of his contract) to give the Sox more flexibility. I'm not sure you can really expect more than that.

Nothing wrong with trying to negotiate the best deal you can. I don't expect a player to cave and accept less than market any more than I'd expect the team to cave and overpay. In Paulie's case, this deal was likely the best he was going to get. Baltimore and Arizona weren't going to beat it. Maybe Texas does if they miss on Lee, but if Paulie waited for that, the Sox offer disappears.

Konerko still has to find a team willing to give him $15M/year. Easier said than done.

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Dec 7, 2010 -> 01:15 PM) CSNChi_Beatnik Brett Ballantini Konerko/Landis shooting for the moon--$15 million. Goes against the grain of how PK spoke of his next gig (not nec. top $) at season's end. 3 minutes ago There's nothing wrong with having a high starting point, doesn't mean he'll get it (the bidding on Dunn was supposed to start at $60M over 4 years). I get the impression that the Sox offer will be the top $$$ offer, unless someone unexpected jumps into the bidding.

QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Dec 7, 2010 -> 12:53 PM) Dunn isn't a 1B though. They're the Orioles, who knows. One wouldn't think they'd want to offer a bunch of money to him but one wouldn't have figured the Tigers to throw mountains of cash at IRoid and the Venezuelan Piece of s*** several years ago either, and that kind of worked out for them... for a while. I know Dunn and Konerko are different players. But unless the O's value Konerko way more than Dunn (seems unlikely), the O's reported offer to Dunn tells me they're not throwing around the type of money they'd need to throw around to land a major free agent. The O's don't really worry me here.

QUOTE (chisox2334 @ Dec 7, 2010 -> 12:36 PM) I wonder if Baltimore Orioles offer was that big to Konerko I doubt it. The O's low-balled Dunn (reportedly $10-11M/year, I believe), so I doubt they're offering $15M/year to Konerko.

Am I the only one who thinks Werth is grossly overrated? He's a good player, but $18M/year for 7 years in his 30s? No way. This contract could end up worse than Soriano's.

I'm sure we're sending at least some $$$, but it still helps.

QUOTE (kwolf68 @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 11:24 PM) I like Sale in the rotation...make a small deal with Philly and get someone like Antonio Bastardo to take Sale's place in the pen. I believe great pitchers should be starters and Sale looks like a great one. If he's in Chicago I hope he starts, but I believe he'll begin in the pen or AAA...we'd have 3 lefties ... Sale, Burls, Danks. Im cool with that. +1 At most I'd keep Sale in the bullpen for 1 more year if team needs really require it, but you can't just preemptively start moving quality young pitching from the rotation to the bullpen just b/c of some vague injury concerns. Anyone can get injured. If he's a starter let him start.

Now we have Dunn and Jackson! Suck it, Bowden.

QUOTE (Paint it Black @ Nov 17, 2010 -> 08:35 PM) Reportedly the DBacks are floating him in trades. Doesn't this make so much sense for the White Sox? He still has 5 years of control, he is relatively cheap, and you can still drool over his tools. We're get him in about 15 years.

I always thought Hahn was more of a legal/financial type. Is there any indication he knows what he's doing with personnel decisions?

I know it's the last weekend, but that might be the worst 3-4-5 in the history of baseball. The Sox should offer AAA ticket prices at least.

QUOTE (SexiAlexei @ Sep 28, 2010 -> 06:00 PM) This is what worries me. I might have missed something, but if I buy tickets at the beginning of the season and then the team tanks, I'll have spent more on tickets than the people that buy these "dynamic" tickets? If this expands to the whole stadium, why would I buy tickets at the beginning of the season (except for games that will sell out quickly)? Maybe it's not a big %, but it seems like they'd lose some ticket sales in the beginning and hope to make that money up closer to the game... In that case, it's reduced to a gamble -- if the team is doing well, you probably got your tickets cheaper by buying early, and if the team tanks, you paid more for your tickets by buying early. That's really not all that different than the current situation with the secondary market -- i.e., in some cases, you can find tickets for under face value, while in others, you'd have to pay above face value for tickets.

I like the idea of starting the season with Vizquel at 3B, give Morel some AB's in AAA, and then promote him later in the year. Is Teahen even movable if the Sox offer to pick up half his contract?

QUOTE (jasonxctf @ Sep 17, 2010 -> 01:12 PM) the same way the Twins do it. Easier said than done. I don't think the Twins target a higher level of success than the Sox, they're just better at achieving it. That's an entirely different issue.

QUOTE (jasonxctf @ Sep 17, 2010 -> 11:02 AM) here's what i don't like. While Williams would protest that the team's goal every year is to win the World Series and that anything else is a failure, in truth they're annually built to win 85 to 90 games, with the understanding that with some good fortune they might win 95 and a pennant, and that with a few injuries or off years they might slip below .500. 2010- Twins on pace for 97 wins 2009- Twins 87 wins 2008- Sox 89 wins 2007- Indians 96 wins 2006- Twins 96 wins 2005- Sox 99 wins 2004- Twins 92 wins 2003- Twins 90 wins 2002- Twins 94 wins 2001- Indians 91 wins 2000- Sox 95 wins So if that truly is the goal, we are undershooting what it takes to win a division. 85-90 win seasons won the division 3 out of the past 11 seasons. The average win total it took to take the Central was 93.27 wins. If you take 85-90 and cut it down the middle, to say 88 wins.. that would have won the division only 1 time!!! I think that's sort of the point, they're built for 85-90 wins in an average year, which usually isn't going to win the division by itself. There aren't too many teams in baseball that can have an average year and still expect to make the playoffs (the Yankees are probably about it). I'm not sure how you change that, other than being willing to throw another $20 million or more on the payroll each year.

QUOTE (pcullotta @ Sep 15, 2010 -> 10:14 AM) What is really annoying me during all the MVP talk is the love for Robinson Cano. Avg - .319 Cano, .324 Konerko HR - 27 Cano, 36 Konerko RBI - 98 Cano, 104 Konerko OBP - .380 Cano, .402 Konerko SLG - .543 Cano, .602 Konerko OPS - .923 Cano, 1.004 Konerko Not saying Cano deserves it, but those are some pretty nice #'s for a 2B.

With the FOX contract, why is it that Boston is allowed to schedule an early Saturday game but the Royals couldn't do it? Isn't the 1st game of the DH within FOX's exclusive broadcasting window?