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QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 10, 2011 -> 10:11 PM) From May 1st through yesterday, Beckham was at .267/.337/.386/.723. From May 20th through yesterday, Beckham was at .275/.345/.389/.734. Assuming this continues, there are a lot of changes that should be made in the offseason. The only change I'd make at this exact moment is firing Walker. I understand that offensive production throughout the entire league is down, but there are some pretty good hitters on this team who are doing absolutely nothing whatsoever. At some point, even if it's the same message, hearing it from a different voice will do wonders for a lot of these guys. I agree with firing Walker. Some move should be made. I don't think Walker's really to blame, and hitting coaches aren't extremely valuable, but something needs to be done.

I predict a whole LOT of nothing.

QUOTE (Real @ Jul 10, 2011 -> 05:47 PM) lmao, i should bump the 'we can still turn it around in the second half' posts from the last 4-5 years we know what we have, a team that plays poorly in the 2nd half In fairness though, we did get to play the Yankees and Red Sox some in the first half this season. In year's past, we would get them over a two week period (along with minny). This season, I believe both teams still have to come here, I'm guessing we're not going there anymore.

QUOTE (Cali @ Jul 10, 2011 -> 05:16 PM) If no changes are made during the break. I don't care to watch the Sox the rest of the season.... No point. If they don't give a s***, why should I? Maybe I can save $30 a month on mlb.tv... I guess, given that they have played the same bad offense day after day, when they've had the option of promoting Viceido now for weeks and haven't, they are either true believers in what they have, or just going to go down with the ship they have constructed. I get it's not realistic to overhaul your team, a team you thought would be a contender, in July, but we've seen nothing, but cotinued patience and that's resulted in Dunn batting 3rd/4th in the lineup with no results and hitting .170ish overall, Pierre being mediocre at the top of the lineup until recently, Rios looking disinterested, and so on. It's become a tired act, but one that they have decided to play on a continuous loop. I'm just not expecting much to change because it hasn't.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jul 10, 2011 -> 05:04 PM) We have a second half to play. It can still be turned around. So let's not be burning everyone at the stake please It could turn around, but we're 90 games in. Sometimes, you are what you are.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 10, 2011 -> 08:03 AM) @Buster_ESPN Buster Olney Lots of rumors swirling about managerial change with the White Sox, but high-ranking source says change with Ozzie not being considered. 10 hours ago via web Given their reluctance to make any changes to the team this season, I still think this is the most realistic outcome.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 10, 2011 -> 12:32 PM) So we line it up so our three worst starters face the Tigers? This has to be matchups based, right?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 10, 2011 -> 10:36 AM) He said in the Trib today that The Twins are always built to win the AL Central and not the World Series, while the Sox are always built to win the World Series and not the AL Central. Rosenbloom is a simpleton, and he also is the most miserable columnist that I've seen. He's never happy about anything. As for this quote, it sounds great, really deep and clever, except it's not. It's actually a pretty stupid comment from the White Sox perspectivewhen you consider that for the Sox to win the World Series, they need to win the AL Central in most every season when you're in the same league as the Red Sox and Yankees. He's right about the Twins who can't get past the Yankees, but this is Rosenbloom being negative.

QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 06:41 PM) There really are no sure things. I think he's going to be a hitting machine, but I could be wrong, too. Beckham never spent enough time in the minors to get a feel for how his numbers would translate from that level to the bigs, but I was front-and-center on his bandwagon based on his '09 performance. Haven't quite yet given up on Gordo becoming that player, though I will soon if nothing changes. No sure thing, but he hit well last year when he was here, and is having a very productive season in the minors. He's a pretty good prospect, and, by all accounts, is a hard worker. I think his time has come, or should have come.

QUOTE (Paulstar @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 06:37 PM) Quentin--while he can be an MVP quality player at times--isn't getting any cheaper or younger, has injury concerns, and is extremely streaky. With that being said, I think you have to accept any trade offer involving good young talent for Quentin. Agreed. You can't trade our crap unless we want somebody else's crap in return. Quentin is putting up good power numbers although he remains as streaky as ever. The White Sox haven't been able to get him to sign a long-term deal, and Viceido is ready to play in the majors. With the Sox probably strained from a payroll perspective, if the White Sox are able to get a younger player(s) in return for Quentin, it's something Williams really has to look at. This is also true of Edwin Jackson, but that one is a little more complicated in that Peavy has to show he's healthy still at the end of the month.

QUOTE (Paulstar @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 06:39 PM) Agreed. But I would hope that any scenario that involves Oz leaving mid-season, that Cora and Walker would be automatically included. Cora would be gone for sure, I think Walker is likely gone as well given the struggles of the hitters. I have no idea what, if anything, is going to happen though.

QUOTE (Paulstar @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 06:27 PM) Oh for sure, and thank god for that. Personally, whoever our next manager is, I hope our bench coach isn't a mini version of him. I get the feeling that Baines would prefer to stay in Chicago, regardless of whoever the manager is (not like whoever the 1B coach is a pressing matter). Cox is a solid 3B coach, but it's no big loss if he leaves. Walker, I would have to imagine, would be gone for sure no matter what. There is just no way to justify keeping him if Ozzie is gone. Coop is really the only coach that needs to stay here for life unless a different team wants to give him a shot at being manager. If a change was made mid-season, I'm not sure how that impact the current coaching staff. My guess would be that Cora would be gone, maybe you get another new coach, but I think the makeover would come in the off-season. I would hope that Cooper would be safe under any new manager.

QUOTE (Paulstar @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 06:17 PM) That this is even an issue is beyond me. Imagine if this was a big deal back in high school when you would add "is gay" after someone's name on a paper. Agreed. Non-issue.

QUOTE (Paulstar @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 06:13 PM) My question is how strong the relationship is between the coaching staff and if Coop and Oz are tied at the hip. I know Cora and Guillen are thought to be tied at the hip.

QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 06:09 PM) Ozzie deserves to be fired after the way he managed the game today. I'm not sure what to expect, whether it's nothing (which has been the standard operating procedure all season), fire the hitting coach, or do something a bit more drastic like getting rid of Cora/Guillen.

QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 06:06 PM) And let him know very clearly that you want him to $tay. Coop is a still under-appreciated godsend. Agreed, don't understand the logic of not already ensuring he's part of the coaching staff next year.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 05:54 PM) I would give it to Coop Pass on that. He does a great job with the pitching staff. Let him focus on that.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 05:48 PM) Hey, did we just beat the Twins? Maybe we can dream big and get a series split tomorrow!

Tyler Flowers: 2011 season - .255 AVG, 14 HR, 31 RBI, 84K in 220 AB (121 in 346 AB last season), OPS .868

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 05:47 PM) Way to go Alexei! What a concept. Let your best hitter (today) hit.

Why does it seem that Juan Pierre is up so often?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 05:28 PM) So Cowley reads Soxtalk or WSI, sees Gammons is predicting Ozzie's demise and starts tweeting this. If Ozzie is gone remember how Joe will tell everyone he had the story first. That's how I think a lot of these local guys get their stories.....they can use their familiar "sources say" to claim it as their own.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 05:35 PM) The ball is just flying to right center. Teahen's going to have a shot to be a hero again. Hilarious - man on 2nd, nobody out. The one time you'd think Ozzie would bunt with Beckham and he has him hitting.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 05:33 PM) Farmer already speculating that Flowers might start tmrw, but no way in hell that's happening. Unless Ozzie's really trying to lose his job or betting against the Sox. AJ would go crazy sitting out 2 games in a row against his former team. Although it could get interesting if Peavy goes out there with ZERO stuff again and gives up 5-6-7 against the Twins. AJ will flip out. What are Flowers numbers?

QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 05:27 PM) Rios just has no power in his swing anymore. Terrible. Maybe it's always been this way, and I'm not a hitting instructor, but it looks awfully long.