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It's pretty effing sad that a movie/tv/or singing sensation has to have an illness or disease before it get's any attention. Not shame on those trying to cure the problem.. shame on everyone else for needing a Ted, Chris, or MJF to give a s***.

QUOTE(Jenksismyb**** @ Oct 26, 2006 -> 02:21 PM) Instead of people looking at the issues surrounding stem cell research, they got moved by a guy shaking uncontrollably on the TV. If it brings attention to the research does it matter how it got in the spotlight?? He shakes. That's what Parkinson's suffers do. Shame on him for showing the world the truth to cause a buzz...

QUOTE(Jenksismyb**** @ Oct 26, 2006 -> 02:12 PM) But there are levels of acceptability with 'effective' ads. Like I said before, if there's an anti-abortion ad why not show a pile of bloody fetus'. It effectively shows what happens, but is it in good taste? In part he's also misrepresenting his disease. Why not show a spinal cord injury victim who's paralyzed from the waist down crawling on the floor, struggling to get to the bathroom or kitchen or wherever he wants to go? Sure, they could have taped him using his wheelchair, but why do that when we can effectively show the problems associated with being paralyzed? "See how difficult it is for him to move? See how difficult it is for him to live on a daily basis? Vote for X because he supports stem cell research which could allow this victim to walk again. The other candidate loves the fact this man must crawl to any place he wants to go. He hates stem cell research and he hates you. Vote X in 2007." It's crap. How is he misrepresenting his disease...? He has Parkinson's and he's focusing on that and what SCR can do for finding a cure for it. I'd find it a bit odd if he didn't use his disease, something he has first hand knowledge of, as a starting point for his fight.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Oct 26, 2006 -> 12:07 AM) This has got to be some kinda record for most games pushed back because of rain for one post-season. It'll tire the Tigers out for next year.. And, it's another day we can still call the Sox the "Defending World Champs".

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Oct 26, 2006 -> 12:05 PM) am I missing something? Nope.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Oct 26, 2006 -> 11:54 AM) Shh... I want an excuse to go to Texas for a while Typical selfish bastard...

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Oct 26, 2006 -> 11:51 AM) I was happy to see Southwest is now flying direct to DFW. Now maybe we can see that little Kappling sometime soon Or she can come here.....

QUOTE(mreye @ Oct 26, 2006 -> 11:37 AM) I guess I just thought going through all the BS again - by, rightfully so, trying to clear some things and her name up, might be too much of a pain in the ass to go through for what the end "gain" will be - which is? Does that make sense? Absolutely. I did tell her something along that line when she asked me last night what to do, and if I thought writing the letter would be good. My initial advice was to write away.. get it out of her system.. then toss it. He's a waste of oxygen that I wouldn't give the time of day to, but.. I was not his victim so I really have no clue how she feels as far as being violated again...

QUOTE(mreye @ Oct 26, 2006 -> 11:18 AM) Sorry if I pissed you off. It's just my opinion. I just thought the reason she didn't attend was she didn't want to relive all the BS - I agree with that. But, I think it's counter-productive to get upset about what was said there. She knew he would drag her through the mud and blame everything on her, why is she surprised? You didn't piss me off. I just don't see how give her the advice you posted would be helpful or productive. I'm not judging her in this matter. Just trying to be supportive.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Oct 26, 2006 -> 11:10 AM) If you didn't notice, there was a Fox quote in there. And I wasn't referring to anything but this particular ad, which I thought was the whole point. If anyone wants to like Mr. Limbaugh even less btw...it turns out his show is not just broadcast over the radio, there's also video available of his show. And he does a real nice insulting head bobbing to go along with the statement about the ad. You can watch it, and also watch another recent interview with Mr. Fox, Here. I didn't. Thanks for pointing that out.

QUOTE(mreye @ Oct 26, 2006 -> 11:10 AM) If she's so concerned why didn't she attend the preceedings? I know - she wants to forget it all, well, then forget it! Let it go - it seems like she had (Been happily re-married for 5 years) - why can't she let this little insignificant thing go? I would bet his letter had the same comment. Alrighty... Thanks eye. I'm sure you'll understand that I won't be sharing your response with her.

Balta, take it up with MJF. He's the one that stated the opposite. I would guess he knows his reactions to the medication.

QUOTE(mreye @ Oct 26, 2006 -> 10:58 AM) Maybe it's me, but I don't think that sounds like, "You wacko bi---, you need to get straightened out." It sounds more like a paragraph that they put in every single annulment approval notification. IMO, your friend is over reacting, especially by taking little potshots at the Catholic church. I think she's ticked because, to her, it seems like the ex didn't share his "fault" in the breakdown of the marriage because if he had that would have not been put in there It's tough to be attacked (how she is seeing it) when she did nothing wrong, and even after everything he did to her still chose not to go for an annulment. I do wonder if it's standard and if the jerkoff's letter included it as well.

QUOTE(tonyho7476 @ Oct 26, 2006 -> 10:58 AM) From SFN? Oh boy. Be careful. LOL.. I know. There are some nuts there. Actually we're mainly meeting Levy. Been "friends" since him and gary, and jon were at Zanies years ago.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 26, 2006 -> 10:50 AM) OK, let's all take a deep breath before we post. Discuss, don't diss. This is a tough topic, and some of us have a personal stake. I apologize if my post seemed attacking, It was not intended to be and moreso a matter of fact and reminder that unless you know or spent some time with MJF that comments are opinions. Obviously some here have first hand exp with the disease but just because one person doesn't have one symptom doesn't mean others don't as well.

QUOTE(tonyho7476 @ Oct 26, 2006 -> 10:39 AM) I'll see if 10:30 is still available. I'll tape the roast if its up by then...which it probably will be. Awesome. Let me know if you change and Jim and I will save seats for you guys. we're going to be there early meeting folks from SFN

QUOTE(Rex Kicka** @ Oct 26, 2006 -> 10:29 AM) Again, Michael J Fox's tremors and exaggerated movements are a symptom of the medication he's on. And your medical degree is from where...? And yes, I'm being an asshole because the fact is that you don't know s*** about MJF's symptoms or how HE reacts to the medication he takes. As ignorant as calling his appearance an "act". According to MJF himself, his shaking at the '02 hearing was a result of NOT taking his medication. http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-69090060.html

QUOTE(tonyho7476 @ Oct 26, 2006 -> 10:35 AM) I reserved for 8:00...are you going to the later one? Yea, 10:30. I think you can change if you and MsTonyho can swing it...? Can you VHS the roast for me tomorrow night?

I'm not too familiar because I've only watched when I happen upon it, but I have to say of the ones I have seen any butters-centric episode is good. "don't ice me homey" And then he drops an n-bomb and sings going back to cali on the plane Cartman holding back the punch was funny, and I LOL'd at the boys on the leashes and the 3 stooges parody. One of the best episodes I've see of season so far, and better than the dog one for the same reason as Soxy stated.

http://www.bet.com/WebApplications/betRoot...B-DDED73CFA84C} By Tracy Stokes, BET.com Staff Writer & Wire Services Posted Oct. 25, 2006 – If you've ever checked out an episode of the '70s sitcom, "The Jefferson's," you know that Tom Willis, a White man, married Helen, a Black woman, and they had two kids -- one Black and one White. Well, an interracial couple in Australia, believed to be the first in the country, naturally conceived one Black and one White girl, The Daily Telegraph reported. Natasha Knight, 35, of Jamaican-English heritage and father Michael Singerl, 34, of German heritage, said they were blown away when they saw how different their twin daughters, Alicia and Jasmin, were. "When they were born, you could see there was a color difference straight away. We couldn't believe it,'' Knight told The Telegraph. "Alicia's eyes were brown and her hair was dark. Jasmin's eyes were blue and her hair was white. You could hardly see her hair or her eyebrows. We were joking when I was pregnant about what if one baby looked like me and one looked like Michael. We joked about one light one, one dark one, so it was amazing when it actually happened.'' Knight said that she often gets stares when she's out with them and some folks have even come up to her and asked if both girls were hers, followed by questions of whether there was a mix-up at the hospital. But there was no mix-up, Knight said, adding that they are both her beautiful girls. Genetics experts say rarely does a mixed-race woman's eggs contain genes for predominantly one skin color. In most cases the eggs are a mixture of genes for both Black and White skin.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Oct 26, 2006 -> 08:36 AM) I saw the ad myself and I actually think Limbaugh is right. My grandmother had Parkinsons really bad and even when she was off her meds she didn't shake like that. When he testified in front of congress 3 years ago he had to be helped to walk he was shaking so bad. Apparently he did not take his medication then, and perhaps didn't take it now. It's to prove a point. However, calling his condition an act is disgusting and Rush has no room to talk about being on the "up and up" coinsidering he is a drug addicted hypocrite. QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Oct 26, 2006 -> 08:55 AM) I have mixed feelings about stem cell research but for the Democrats to have Fox get on television and put on an act like that in support of their candidates and causes is just utterly shameful. For you to call his condition an "act" is worse, no? And I do think Fox shoulders the blame on this. He choose not to take his meds to show the severity of the disease.

QUOTE(tonyho7476 @ Oct 26, 2006 -> 08:25 AM) Artie roasting Jackie is great. Roasting Sal was even better. Tony, are you guys going Saturday night?

http://news.aol.com/elections/story/_a/lim...S00010000000001 Limbaugh Says Fox Exploited Disease Talk Show Host Rips Stricken Actor for Campaign Ad CBS News, AP contributed to this report (Oct. 24) - His body visibly wracked by tremors, actor Michael J. Fox appears in a political ad that was the subject of widespread discussion on Monday after conservative radio commentator Rush Limbaugh claimed Fox was "either off his medication or acting." A victim of Parkinson's disease, Fox speaks out in the ad for Missouri Democratic Senate candidate Claire McCaskill, who supports embryonic stem cell research. "I think this is exploitative in a way that's unbecoming of either Claire McCaskill or Michael J. Fox," Limbaugh said on his syndicated show. On his Web site Tuesday, Limbaugh appeared to back away from his accusation. "All I'm saying is I've never seen him the way he appears in this commercial for Claire McCaskill," says Limbaugh. "So I will bigly, hugely admit that I was wrong, and I will apologize to Michael J. Fox, if I am wrong in characterizing his behavior on this commercial as an act, especially since people are telling me they have seen him this way on other interviews and in other television appearances." "As you might know I care deeply about stem cell research," says Fox, who has struggled with Parkinson's disease for more than a decade. "In Missouri you can elect Claire McCaskill, who shares my hope for cures." McCaskill has made support for the research a key part of her campaign to unseat Sen. Jim Talent. The Republican incumbent opposes the research as unethical, saying it destroys human embryos. The new ad debuted prominently Saturday night during Game 1 of the World Series between the St. Louis Cardinals and the Detroit Tigers and will continue airing statewide this week, a campaign spokeswoman said. Debate over stem cell research looms large in Missouri, where voters are considering a ballot measure that would amend the state constitution to protect all federally allowed forms of the research, including embryonic stem cell research. The scientific study holds promise in the search to cure diseases like Parkinson's and Alzheimer's. "Unfortunately, Senator Jim Talent opposes expanding stem cell research," Fox says in the 30-second spot. "Senator Talent even wanted to criminalize the science that gives us a chance for hope." Talent's campaign called the ad a false attack. "Senator Talent supports medical research including stem cell research that doesn't involve cloning or destroying a human embryo," said Talent spokesman Rich Chrismer. Earlier this year, Talent withdrew his support for a Senate bill that would ban all embryonic stem cell research and impose a million-dollar fine and jail sentence on violators. But he opposes the Missouri ballot initiative, claiming it would "make cloning human life at the earliest stage a constitutional right." More From CBS News Infants in TherapyAll Eyes on Ohio as Election NearsMore College Grads Living With ParentsNukes for Sale? Experts Sound AlarmsCan Iraq War Vets Win for Democrats?Supporters of the state referendum deny that assertion, noting the language of the proposed constitutional amendment explicitly bans human cloning. McCaskill, running even with Talent in the latest polls, hopes to get a boost from aligning herself with support for the ballot measure, which recent polls show has the support of 58 percent of likely voters. Backers of the measure have raised nearly $29 million toward its passage, the costliest political campaign in Missouri history. Fox's ad urges voters that "what you do in Missouri matters to millions of Americans. Americans like me." The ad ends with a picture of McCaskill and her voice approving the message. A native of Canada, Fox became an American citizen in 2000 and has been politically active for Democratic causes. He campaigned for John Kerry in the 2004 presidential race and lobbied Congress to lift President Bush's restrictions on funding for stem cell research. There is video of Fox at the link.

Bababooey roast is on now. Dan Patrick is there and is apparently a big fan of the show.

Can't find the thread, but Cole Cameron Leinart was born yesterday.