southsider2k5

These days it really paid off to having built a relationship with the guys stocking the shelves.

In the lands of Wal_marts and Targets, getting back to normal is happening much quicker.

Japan has a population of 125 million that is mostly concentrated in a few places. Even with all of the empty land they have their population density is 10 times the United States. This is much more dangerous where it is easily spread person to person. A place like Tokyo is the ideal breeding ground. Taiwan has 25 million people, with a density 20 X's that of the US. Singapore has 6 million people, but their population density is 40 X's that of the United States, and approaching that of New York City. Germany has 80 million people and is about 6 times more densely populated than the US.

Their substitute teacher skit is an all time great.

We still really haven't bent the curve, even though we are in the 3rd week of sort of taking this serious nationally. The scary part is that deaths are a trailing feature of cases, so we are no where near the peak fatality rate.

Even if you take Indonesia and factor them up by 100X's, we still have more cases than they do.

Clue #1 should have been the Chinese response. The fact that they locked everyone down, at the expense of their economy, is really all you had to know. Past that, there were daily stages where this was obvious for anyone who wanted to see it. Heck here in this very thread we had a guy literally in the city of Wuhan telling us his stories. Look at the case list. Look at places like India, Indonesia, Japan, and Malaysia who are right on China's doorstep and have mitigated this amazing well compared to use who is an ocean away. Indonesia has about 80% of our population, 5 times our population density, and no where near the medical care that we have. Indian has a billion + people and shares a border with China. It has been done much better by many.

The state level response is directly coordinated to the federal response. If the Feds had been out front, clear, and consistent with the message, it would have been nearly impossible for governors to do otherwise. We have seen how the Senate and House fall into line behind the President, I doubt the governors would have been much different. This fog of doubt that the President established from Day 1, has allowed states to hide in it, even to this day.

Your point was wrong. The idea that some how this was somehow not able to be mitigated and minimized is flat out, 100% wrong. All of the What Abouts in the post don't excuse the leadership of this country from their negligence of duty. The mixed messages and finger pointing start right at the top. From saying it would be gone by April to a Democratic hoax have allowed a large portion of our population to not take this event as seriously as they should, and allowed them to pretend that science and medical advice are somehow fungible with Presidential gut feelings and Karen's on the internet who heard something 3rd hand. We KNOW these types of events are inevitable. They are constant through history. We have entire agencies who are dedicated to exactly these eventualities, and they were flat out ignored and sidelined in the days of this where we could have worked ahead. We knew this was happening in January. It was obvious to the people who do this stuff for a living that it would go world wide. If we as a country had actually started ramping up medical response then, instead of waiting until the pandemic was rampaging through the country, we could have saved lives. A singular and consistent message from the top is where that starts. Or that is at least where it should have started. The states and governors who STILL refuse to see this have something in common in that they take their walking notes from the President. You literally have people drinking aquarium cleaner based on the President's advice, yet pretend that the President being out in front of this couldn't have made a difference? Nope. I won't accept that contradiction. You can what about with Italy and Germany, but I won't accept that. Their response was also botched. There are plenty of other industrialized countries who took the advice and saved lives. That is the standard I expect from the USA. We have the best scientific community in the world, and the capability to shift resources like no other country in the world. That is the standard I hold this country to. We knew this storm was coming for two months and our leadership laughed and mocked it.

What about-isms are exactly how we got here, and how we continue to go down this path.

The ironic thing here is you have already forgotten your right wing talking points here.

When you have cult members almost literally willing to drink the Kool-Aid based on the Presidents words, you would think it would be obvious why being smart about these kind of statements is not the best idea.

We are quickly accelerating up the fatality curve. We were over 900 yesterday, and with 23k new cases yesterday, our deaths will be accelerating keep accelerating as well.

This sound vaguely familiar. Like a leader who would refuse to take the calls from governors who don't grovel enough...

Its cute that you think these things only work one way. Especially when you watch our response to this when we had advance notice was quite literally to try to protect the economy instead of people.

By your logic, this is just as likely to have been planted by America in China, because this country never interfered in other countries affairs and definitely never used biowarefare or genocide against people before.

Washington state had a very bad early outbreak, and isn't nearly done with this. California is still accelerating up the curve.

The whole idea is absurd. I mean if China really wanted to sabatoge the West, why wouldn't they plant an illness IN THE WEST!?!?!?! The idea that they started an illness in their own country, shutdown their own economy, and then waited for it to go out west so that they could shutdown their economies and in response stop buying from places like China, therefore getting economically slammed, not once, but twice, is so mindboggling shortsighted, it is almost incomprehensible for it to even be considered.

I can't believe Indiana was actually ahead of Illinois. Holcomb just seems to wait for IL and MI to do something, and then follows a couple of days later.

Seeing as the length of the Wuhan lockdown is supposed to be 11 weeks, that seems to be a pretty good starting point, especially since our lockdown doesn't look nearly like China's.

If only we had an agency that was tasked with planning for these eventualities at the federal level.

This and the cook county jail story are sobering.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/texas-sports-nation/astros/article/AJ-Reed-Astros-retire-draft-class-2014-15167132.php#

Wait, let me try. I don't know if Trump supporters are racist, but a whole lot of racism originates from them.

In order to buy the idiotic conspiracy theory that some are trying to sell, you would have to buy the idea that the United States would have botched the response and ended up as bad as it has. If you would have theorized that the US would respond perfectly and minimize both the impact and the spread of this, the theory doesn't work.