southsider2k5

When it comes to Avi, think Dan Jennings valuation.

The age question is a vast oversimplification. Not all 33 year olds were created equal. The reason most players are gone by that age is because they never were good to begin with. How many players out there are putting up an OPS+ of 149 right now, and 142 for their careers? I can tell you that as of today Jose Abreu is 17th in all of baseball in OPS. If you figure 14 hitters per roster and 30 teams out there that puts about 420 major league hitters out there. Average that out and guess where Jose Abreu is? The top 4% of hitters in MLB today. He has talent that very few in MLB have. He has a skill set that will age well because he is a hitter first, who happens to have a lot of power. There are many examples of his type of players doing exactly that. Even if he deteriorates from his career average of 3.7 fWAR per season, down to the 2 WAR per season range, he is still putting up numbers that are right at what he is going to be getting paid in those season JUST from a statistical standpoint, and not factoring in what he means off of the field to the young players. The average value of a point of WAR for 2017 was $10.5 million.

Just like last time Yoan slumped this year, I am still buying.

So a majority of the guys are at least 10% above league average? Add to that where Abreu is now, and that makes me feel better, not worse.

He didn't play a full season last year.

That's exactly what Palka and Skole are.

Step 6: Delete your account.

QFT.

Lmao. This coming from the guy who was upset we weren't taking pitches instead of scoring runs.

This is their 5th best catcher.

Troll recognize Troll.

Anderson!

Skolnik!

Stupid hitters scoring runs. I want to see lots of pitches!

Just like everyone predicted.

Man if Engel can even give us a mediocre bat in CF...

I mean if you have a realistic chance to win a WS, you really have to think about going for it, but if the Cubs don't go for it there, and never win one, who know what happens to that franchise.

Lol@ the guys watching and posting about the Cubs game in the Sox game thread.

And I think Jose Abreu is different based on his tool set and other similar players in recent history.

That is great to see.

Those deals are not out there. These types of players aren't getting that kind of trade value. The market isn't logical right now. RPs are overvalued and the 1B/DH types are undervalued. Go back and look at the trades over the last few years, you will not find the deal you are talking about.

Does anyone know who Kenny Williams has seen? We all know he is the final cross checker.

I could post the numbers that show most prospects post 0 WAR in their careers too. Also if anyone had been willing to pay that for Abreu, he would have been gone already. Your value idea for him is insanely high compared to what teams are willing to pay. We are not getting a top 25 prospect. That is insanity.

No. The window for any chance at that would have been if Boston would have been willing to give up players for salary relief. Without that, no.