Everything posted by southsider2k5
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2016-17 NHL Thread
It is really nice to see Hoss off to a good start.
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Potential + Effects of the World Series?
QUOTE (captain54 @ Nov 3, 2016 -> 08:15 PM) The same guy that said the Cubs were the dominant ball team in Chicago in the late 50s and 60s is a stickler for "facts" Thanks for making my night. Have a lovely evening So that is my answer. You are just back to making stuff up again.
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**2016 Films Thread**
QUOTE (Brian @ Nov 3, 2016 -> 06:39 PM) You son of a b**** Eh, literally the only scene I can remember is the scene with Bobby Brown's cameo.
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Potential + Effects of the World Series?
QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Nov 3, 2016 -> 04:50 PM) And the world series just increased the value of the Cubs by the entire value of that hypothetical Trout contract. Yet you want to sit here and argue that the Cubs are going to be substantially hindered. Have fun I'll go hit a tennis ball against a wall, it's better for my health. If you want to argue that $30ish million in free money doesn't make a difference to the Cubs, go ahead and play with that ball. If the original poster has some actual knowledge of the dollar difference involved here, I would like to know it.
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Tyler Danish cleared to work out
Tyler Danish Verified account @danish_Tyler7 1h1 hour ago Monday officially cleared from my knee procedure ! Finally able to get back to working out and getting ready for next year!!!
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Misc. Sox Quotes & Tweets
Scott Merkin @scottmerkin 2h2 hours ago Ann Arbor, MI Alex Avila, Justin Morneau and Austin Jackson among the 139 free agents eligible to negotiate and sign a contract starting 12:01 a.m ET Tues
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2016-17 free agency thread (NON WHITE SOX RELATED)
Doug Padilla @DougPadilla 2h2 hours ago Dodgers electing free agency today include Kenley Jansen and Justin Turner. But that is not all. The list also... http://es.pn/2esCBWq
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2016-17 free agency thread (NON WHITE SOX RELATED)
Chris Cotillo @ChrisCotillo 56m56 minutes ago Some candidates to be traded this week: Carlos Ruiz (LAD), Pat Neshek (HOU), Derek Holland (TEX), Yunel Escobar (LAA).
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2016-17 free agency thread (NON WHITE SOX RELATED)
MLB Trade Rumors @mlbtraderumors 26m26 minutes ago Rangers Will Make Qualifying Offer To Ian Desmond http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/11/rang...an-desmond.html …
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2016-17 free agency thread (NON WHITE SOX RELATED)
Shannon Drayer @shannondrayer 25m25 minutes ago Mariners announce they have picked up the option on Seth Smith and declined the option on Chris Iannetta.
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2016-17 free agency thread (NON WHITE SOX RELATED)
Chris Cotillo @ChrisCotillo 22m22 minutes ago Cardinals will officially decline their club options on OF Matt Holliday and RHP Jordan Walden, source tells SB Nation.
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2016-17 free agency thread (NON WHITE SOX RELATED)
Chris Cotillo @ChrisCotillo 9m9 minutes ago Astros claim Nori Aoki off waivers from the Mariners.
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Potential + Effects of the World Series?
QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Nov 3, 2016 -> 04:22 PM) What evidence? Dude I don't know what else to say. It's like trying to describe color to a blind person. They won the world series and built the best team in MLB. How bad can the debt problem possibly be? It didn't stop them from paying the best GM in sports. It didn't stop them from hiring the best manager in MLB. It didn't stop them from signing Fowler. It didn't stop them from building one of the best International systems. Now that they have won the WS, now is the time to worry about the debt? Come. On. Man. I know you like to be a contrarian but there's nothing here to build any sort of argument on. If your argument is we don't know what the debt payments are then no ****. You and I have very different views on evidence apparently. I mean there are a ton of non sequitors in the post that sound great and compelling together, but none of that is the actual point. When you are talking about the debt service, you are talking about a number that would cover the highest salary in baseball. Yes, it is significant to the Cubs at some level. It hasn't stopped them so far, but they also haven't hit the most expensive years on their roster yet either. If that number has changed as was previously claimed, that makes a large different to the bottom line of the team. The difference could be the room to pay Mike Trout or Clayton Kershaw's most expensive years, in additional annual revenue, per YEAR. So yes, if that number has really changed, it will change the bottom line of this team. It would be nice to know if that is theory or if there is fact out there on this, and not just a guy talking in counterfactuals.
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Potential + Effects of the World Series?
QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Nov 3, 2016 -> 04:15 PM) As always you refuse to consider the evidence we have in front of us. I don't need to shove my head up a bull's ass to get a good look at the T-Bone steak. I'll just take the well reviewed Butcher's word for it. The Cubs just won the world series with a fairly high payroll. Who in the right mind would even give a 2nd thought to the debt service? They are a money pinanta and the new TV deal coupled with their success is a mace being swung by Brock Lesnar. What evidence? That is what I am asking for. He just told me how the Cubs debt service apparently isn't there anymore because they brought on other partners earlier. All I want to know is what the actual impact was, since he is speaking of it as a fact. I've read about the debt service in the past, and even saw it referred to as recently as last winter as a reason the Cubs show an artificially high profit margin, and weren't spending as much as other teams in their revenue neighborhood. What I haven't seen is a single source actually refer to that debt service being reduced in anything other than innuendo. If there are facts out there, I would like to know them.
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**2016 Films Thread**
QUOTE (Brian @ Nov 3, 2016 -> 03:56 PM) Ghostbusters was just bad. Has nothing do with the ladies. There were a few chuckles but that story and ending was were awful. Mike and Dave Need Wedding Dates was decent until the actually wedding stuff than none of it was funny or made much sense. Aubrey Plaza though. The original movie had the combination of the perfect cast, and a great script. Honestly even part 2 was awful. I have zero desire to see the new one.
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Potential + Effects of the World Series?
QUOTE (captain54 @ Nov 3, 2016 -> 03:46 PM) thank you for the lesson in semantics.. I wouldn't really bother responding, but what the hell. .. here goes another 10 minutes or so of my life I'll never get back.. the implication in your post is that you seem to imply the Ricketts haven't quite got it figured out. they have incurred far too much debt and are incurring far too much payroll...why else would you even mention this? it's pointless... The value of the Cubs franchise has substantially increased since 2009.. the debt service payment is a drop in the bucket.. especially with a new TV deal on the horizon Do some of your own research on Cubs investors, please.... I'm not here to feed you information.... Also do some research on how the debt was configured to go long term.. to 2022 at minimum... and what that actually means.. The issue with the Cubs debt is more with the MLB Debt Service Rule than anything.. So you don't actually have real knowledge on the facts here, just what you think is happening?
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Potential + Effects of the World Series?
QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Nov 3, 2016 -> 03:24 PM) The Cubs just drew 340,000 in 8 postseason games. At $150/head (I have no idea) that would be $50 million bucks right there. The post season teams don't keep the lions share of that money. MLB does.
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Potential + Effects of the World Series?
QUOTE (captain54 @ Nov 3, 2016 -> 03:09 PM) Do some research genius.. before talking out of your keyster and shooting your mouth off with another insulting comment.. when you have investors lining up out the door it takes an incredible amount of the burden off of any outstanding debt... the Cubs had a substantial roster of investors in 2009... you can imagine what it is now... its Economics 101 Since you seem to know. How many investors did the Cubs take on, and at what percentage did they buy in at? What portion of their debt service was paid off and what portion remains? And just for the record, it is keister, and this isn't really economics as much as it is finance. Economics is a very different field.
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JB Shuck outrighted to Charlotte
QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Nov 3, 2016 -> 03:20 PM) Do you not understand the concept of depth? I often wonder. JB Shuck sucks, but it never hurts to have guys with MLB experience in the minors. Yeah, I would imagine that a lot of teams don't have 40 players better than Shuck.
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Davidson foot almost healed
http://m.mlb.com/news/article/206360236/wh...lks-about-2016/
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2016-17 free agency thread (NON WHITE SOX RELATED)
MLB Trade Rumors @mlbtraderumors 1h1 hour ago Royals To Pick up 2017 Options For Wade Davis, Alcides Escobar http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/11/roya...es-escobar.html …
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2016-17 free agency thread (NON WHITE SOX RELATED)
MLB Trade Rumors @mlbtraderumors 23m23 minutes ago Red Sox Decline Ryan Hanigan's Option http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/11/red-...ans-option.html …
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Arizona Fall League Starts Today
FutureSox @FutureSox 2m2 minutes ago OF Courtney Hawkins has been added to the @MLBazFallLeague Fall Star team.
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2016-17 free agency thread (NON WHITE SOX RELATED)
Chris Cotillo @ChrisCotillo 2h2 hours ago Nationals officially exercise $13M option on Gio Gonzalez and decline $3M option on Yusmeiro Petit.
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2016-17 free agency thread (NON WHITE SOX RELATED)
Jon Heyman @JonHeyman 2h2 hours ago Aventura, FL jay bruce $13M option picked up by mets @jcrasnick 1st