southsider2k5

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 28, 2016 -> 09:38 AM) He has 1,557 minor league AB's. Avisail Garcia has over 2,000 in roughly five minor league seasons. Worth noting is they had roughly the same number of AB's (215) in AA... Vogelbach has had a pretty normal progression for a high school kid. Took him two years to get out of short-season ball (Northwest League and AZ), whereas the very top high school prospects almost always move in one year. At any rate, the #20 prospect for the Cubs is probably not on the Top 20 list that Hahn and Company have compiled. And the Cubs aren't just going to give him away simply because he doesn't have a place to play in their organization, as much as it would be nice if the world worked that way for blocked players. Looking at their careers, it's easy to argue Avisail needed more time in the minors, and the same can be said for Vogelbach, but at least his numbers offensively partially justify the quicker promotion/s. With Avi, it was more based on raw tools and projection/s, rather than actual results. I am not sure where someone would look at the Vogelbach numbers and say he needed MORE time at each level.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Apr 28, 2016 -> 09:25 AM) You know what else is appreciable? Vogelbach hasnt played above AA except for his 17 games there this season. In fact, he has bounced between rookie ball and AA for the first three years of his minor league career, and really hasnt done anything that makes me say "OH MY GOD WE NEED THIS GUY AS OUR DH/BACKUP FIRST BASEMAN" The crazy thing? Avi is just over a year older than Vogelbach. Despite his huge numbers, he has been a really slow mover through the Cubs minors, whereas Garcia was race through the Tigers system. Garcia made his major league debut at age 21, which Vogelbach was still in high A ball at the same age. It makes comparing their numbers at the different levels hard to do.

The White Sox gave up a lot of that depth to get guys like Todd Frazier here. I am OK with that.

QUOTE (Knuckles @ Apr 28, 2016 -> 07:57 AM) I remember when we got Lawrie and we thought he will be Sox third baseman before we got Frazier. I remember reading comments like he also could play 2B. He's been pretty damn good out there, def not a liability. I think Lawrie has actually better than Sanchez was. Their range has been pretty similar in my eyes, but Lawrie has an absolute cannon for an arm. Sanchez didn't have the throw going up the middle. Lawrie makes it look routine.

The Sox have not lost in 7 days. John Danks has not pitched in 7 days.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Apr 27, 2016 -> 10:30 PM) I'd have fired gibbons the second the game ended. He left him in for like 3 innings after Estrada started showing discomfort then compounded it by extending him for the longest outing of his career. One of the worst cases of manager negligence I can remember. Pretty much all media covering the game were talking about it in the 4th inning, it was pretty clear Estrada was injured. You don't f*** around with shoulders, that's how you end careers. Yeah, that was pretty amazing. I don't know that I have ever seen anything like it before. Typically the FIRST time the pitcher acts funny at all, in an injured sort of way, both the manager and trainer RUN out there.

Herb Lawrence just posted that the Sox team ERA is lower than the Sox team batting average.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Apr 27, 2016 -> 09:21 PM) Haha Jays fan on their board just said he'd "seriously consider" trading Bautista for Eaton 1-1. No s*** you would... He's only asking for $150 million, so they are about to lose him for nothing.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Apr 27, 2016 -> 09:10 PM) That is pretty awesome.

Christopher Kamka ‏@ckamka 3m3 minutes ago 2.24 ERA through first 22 games of season is best by #WhiteSox since 1967 (2.21)

QUOTE (chi4lyfe @ Apr 27, 2016 -> 09:00 PM) Now that it's safe, here's a fun little research assignment: Find the last time a Toronto team has beaten a Chicago team. Any sport. WHITE SOX WINNA, BABY! I am sure the Argonauts beat the Bears.

For the record, if you pretend the first three innings didn't happen for Miguel Gonzalez, the Sox gave up 1 run to Toronto over 24 innings.

:sweep:

Rollins using the turf to his advantage.

Navarro didn't even leave the batters box.

QUOTE (chi4lyfe @ Apr 27, 2016 -> 08:36 PM) Thank heavens for derpy umpires! Yeah, that probably should have been strike three.

AVI!

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Apr 27, 2016 -> 07:31 PM) Nintendo has put the Mariners up for sale. Do they have a cheat code?

QUOTE (JUSTgottaBELIEVE @ Apr 27, 2016 -> 05:58 PM) Was Sosa ever suspended for a failed drug test? Hard to trust the league or the testing given past history on this issue. I'm sure the tests are more sophisticated now than before but so are the masking agents and ways of circumventing the system. If something doesn't pass the eye test - i.e. abnormal jump in production, noticeable change in physical appearance, etc. it certainly warrants suspicion. How many pitchers have gone from bust to an ace, let alone best pitcher in the league, in their late 20's? At the end of the day for many of these guys it's all about the money and the fame and gaining a competitive advantage to achieve both: http://espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?id=42...t=bryant_howard I believe the biggest thing they had on Sammy was wondering around Latin America with like $10,000 in cash on him.

QUOTE (Brian @ Apr 27, 2016 -> 05:46 PM) @phillipshoops Morgan Park point guard Charlie Moore has announced his top 8: Cal, Illinois, Georgia Tech, LSU, Miami, SMU, UNLV and Western Kentucky. Western Kentucky?

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Apr 27, 2016 -> 06:39 PM) Bishop, Holtby, and Quick are your Vezina finalists. No Crawford. Not that one would expect NHL GMs to know anything about hockey. Now that is a load of s***. Crawford was amazing this season.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Apr 27, 2016 -> 08:12 PM) Chuck Garfien ‏@ChuckGarfien 43s43 seconds ago Seriously, Navarro's last triple was 2012 with the Reds. He caught that day for...Mat Latos. He was still breathing heavy even after coming back from the pitching change and commercial break.

This is good news to come home too!

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 27, 2016 -> 04:56 PM) With a first pick at #10, it is much harder to pull off a underslot signing that adds something meaningful to use later. Last year the #10 pick was a $3.2 million slot. What can you realistically save there without a pretty big overdraft? That is much easier in the top few slots to do, where you have a lot more slot value to worth with. IMO the only way this really would work is if there was an injured SP falling, who was willing to sign underslot, or was such a value at your slot price that he was worth the chance. I just looked it up, the #10 pick carries a slot of just under $3.4 million. #26 is $2.1 million. #49 is almost $1.3 million.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Apr 27, 2016 -> 04:51 PM) I have no player preferences, just parameters. 1)No relievers in the first 10 rounds; that is clown drafting. Starters can be turned into relievers if secondaries don't develop. 2) No reaches paid full slot. 3)with 3 picks in the first 50 or so, do try to use one of those under-slot, to get another top talent to pay over-slot. With a first pick at #10, it is much harder to pull off a underslot signing that adds something meaningful to use later. Last year the #10 pick was a $3.2 million slot. What can you realistically save there without a pretty big overdraft? That is much easier in the top few slots to do, where you have a lot more slot value to worth with. IMO the only way this really would work is if there was an injured SP falling, who was willing to sign underslot, or was such a value at your slot price that he was worth the chance.