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QUOTE (shipps @ Dec 28, 2015 -> 11:27 AM) So Hahn will not directly give the public information to either confirm or deny whether or not bucket or rabbit have good sources? It is crazy, I know.

QUOTE (peavy44 @ Dec 28, 2015 -> 11:06 AM) Did the White Sox back out on Alex gordon offer today. Whether they make an offer or not, the fans won't know until well after the fact in all probability. It isn't like Rick Hahn is going to give a press conference to announce the offer and details. Maybe something leaks out, but knowing the Sox, that is doubtful.

I think our pitching is here already. Maybe we make a depth move, but nothing of significance. The Sox seem to be set to go with Sale/Q/Rodon/EJ/Danks, but also spent $1.5 million to bring Turner back, who could challenge EJ for the 5th slot. That still leaves guys like Carroll and Beck, with maybe a guy like Aumont on the outside edge if they decide to start him again. It wouldn't shock me if the team brings in another lottery ticket, or injury project, but I don't expect to see anything of significance. Maybe a guy like Gavin Floyd on a MiLB deal, with some major league incentives?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 28, 2015 -> 09:19 AM) The highest ever first year arb number was $10 million, for Ryan Howard I believe, so blowing past that number like 8 years later seems entirely reasonable. Furthermore, the contract for the previous year isn't "forgotten" in arbitration - they do take into account the guy's previous year salary based on everything we've seen. It isn't forgotten, but Abreu also has to make the case that he is worth the larger amount of money based on the fact that other similar players are getting paid that. If there are no comps, he won't win. I think the chances of opting out the first year are about zero for this reason. The second year he has a chance are when it could happen. If not the second year, the third year is a virtual certainty based on the assumption that Abreu keeps hitting like Abreu.

I split all of the chaff out of this thread. Going forward, if there is a true problem with posts, instead of ruining threads, please address it through PMs. Any other ruining of threads with this petty stuff could result in suspensions.

The Big Short is worth a watch, even if it is just redbox or netflix in six months. Good movie, I really enjoyed the angle they took for a complex topic, and how they added a little humor too. It made me add the book to my reading list.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 28, 2015 -> 07:38 AM) That is exactly right, and if the record is $10 million, chances are they aren't going to blow by it by much. He would be lucky to get $11 million in arb next year. The two years after that would be a different story. The question I have is once he goes to arbitration, does the balance of the contract lose the guarantee? Once he opts out, the original deal is gone. My guess would be if the Sox think this is likely, they would already start talking about a long term deal.

Arbitration is based on comps to other players. What 4th year players have deals in the $15 to $17 million range, or even $11 million, that Abreu could use to get that sort of a number in a hearing?

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I'd really be happy to see Raines finally get in.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 24, 2015 -> 02:03 PM) Christmas Story is the one true GOAT

QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Dec 24, 2015 -> 12:12 PM) Biggest thing to remember with raBBit, Bucket, Rock, etc is that each FA/Trade situation is highly fluid and can change on a dime. Just because they get one piece of info that doesn't exactly line up with the end product, doesn't discredit them or make them "fake" or "incorrect". I've had it happen multiple times with Bears info. This post should be pinned somewhere and put on repeat.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Dec 24, 2015 -> 11:18 AM) Really well put together. I don't remember much talk of him last year, but I'm now very intrigued, particularly after reading the same quote ss2k5 posted. Wonder if, as a pitcher coming out of college, he'll get fast tracked a bit. Losing a year to TJS will put him back a bit, but the Sox have shown that if a pitcher is ready, they will move through our system.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 24, 2015 -> 11:10 AM) I'm thinking the same thing and its not like the Sox farm is stocked with enough talent to afford the hit of trading for a big bat mid-season. Seems to be alot of mis-direction going on in the media. Sox writers seem to be leaning towards the Sox not making a move while the national writers are saying the Sox are in on signing one of the free agents. Smoke and mirrors. What Hayes says only makes sense if the Sox go for it with the team as is due to payroll constraints and feel they will get rebounds from certain players and should the team flop they become sellers at the deadline. I have a hard time buying into this train of thought and feel the Sox will get an OF bat. I haven't ruled out the possibility of the Sox getting that bat by means of a trade since the surplus of outfielders makes it a buyers market right now. I think it's cheaper to find a bat via trade now then it will be during the season. I totally subscribe to this newsletter.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 24, 2015 -> 11:05 AM) We didn't give up much for Youk, Myers and Liriano. Just Escobar. That said, the situation with Boston needing to move him with Middlebrookspushing for pt was a bit unique because Youkilis was so popular. That said, with the double wild card, those moves are getting harder and harder to come by. And we got back what we gave up, not much.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 24, 2015 -> 10:24 AM) FWIW, this is what Dan Hayes said about 45 minutes ago on Twitter regarding the outfielder situation. Take it as you wish. @The_Xsport I never said it doesn't make sense. They'd be much better off. I don't think they're going to do it though. My guess is 1/2 @The_Xsport they want to start out w/ current group going every day & if it isn't working they'll try to add a bat after season begins. 2/2 The problem is at the break you won't have access to those players, and if you do, it will cost you players AND the contract, instead of just the contract.

QUOTE (Baron @ Dec 23, 2015 -> 11:07 PM) They are going to eat it next year anyway. Meet Scott Boras. I'd rather take a player away from them and get the ship to start sinking. Sure, but if that doesn't work, putting the screws to KC's budget is also nice.

QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Dec 23, 2015 -> 11:02 PM) That's the thing, if that is what is happening, everyone but the Royals win. 1. The price goes up for the Royals, which help the White Sox, Casey Close and Gordon 2. It makes the Sox look like major players in the FA market, which gets the fans excited If I'm Hahn and I got that call from Close, I'd be 100% OK with their camp leaking out that story. I have no problem with any of that. Especially the part where the Royals eat it.

QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 23, 2015 -> 08:47 PM) esp when someone fabricate things.... oh god forbid. pls don't do that. ummm you should talk to tony.... a strange inconsistency here. like rumors for example?

QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Dec 23, 2015 -> 09:50 PM) I also wonder if Casey Close is using the Sox as leverage against the Royals. Not saying that's the case at all, but I wonder... If that is the case, hopefully we make them pay up and add a 5th or 6th year.

I like this.

QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 23, 2015 -> 08:23 PM) again i will submit to you to provide the exact post that i said ganging up.... don't take liberties with saying that i accuse anyone of this. and the word of ALL., where did i say that word when describing this so call ganging up???? QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 23, 2015 -> 08:35 PM) and i am still saying that i posted the link of what was said.... if those links or some don't have the exact words you require... well just too bad. you took all this time to build up some guts to say this, even when i was on the site with you before.... ohhhh i see you need some reinforcement to add that little support. i get it. Yep, only you get to give your opinions, because that is a discussion. If anyone else does, it is ganging up. Nothing to see here, just LDF giving his opinion that no one else can disagree with, or everyone else is picking on him.

QUOTE (shipps @ Dec 23, 2015 -> 08:27 PM) Fine. At the end of the day you are able to throw out rumors that claim Sharp is a married man who sleeps with other players Wifes and whoever else then go ahead. Because.... Well it's on the Internet it must be true! LDF can't bother to check if it's a reliable source or not! That would be unresonable! But the admins and mods have no class. Okay. And don't you dare ask for proof because discussions.

I get the feeling that the first team to promise 5 years is the team that gets Gordon.