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QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 23, 2015 -> 05:53 PM) again cherry picking little excerpts of a conversation to prove a point. i love when some one can come in an prove a point without getting personal stick to the facts and be reasonable open for a different point of view that may be going against their opinions.... and most of all not being subjective against it. Getting personal like accusing all of the admins and mods of ganging up against you? Again, only you get to argue.

QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 23, 2015 -> 05:46 PM) they i will address you to the beginning of this discussion. #2661 post and where i stated of what my belief of the reason for sharp being traded. can of corn came in on #2666 and etc..... so in ref to rumors and innuendo i too but if i am wrong, i will come back and say i was wrong, not once as any mods and admin have done that, and if i or anyone defends themselves, that is when the .... so called ranting starts, and you are just as guilty. every one is. but you won't admit it. Again, it is OK for you to state your opinion, but no one else. Got it.

QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 23, 2015 -> 05:26 PM) no, b/c i believe that in life, there is always going to be many different opinions. it is just that you and the admin and mods needs to be 100 % right allllll the time. god forbid is someone has a different opinion. then every one needs to jump in.... i was asked to prove my point, i did, i got the link. now everyone wants to prove the link as being right or wrong, i just read the links and take that with a grain of salt and uses it for dicussions. oh pls, no one should disagree with the mods / admin b/c there are right .... So apparently you don't have this, which is why you keep arguing and calling out people. Glad you don't feel the need to be right all of the time, otherwise this thread would be degrading into name calling and hurt feelings over something stupid.

QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 23, 2015 -> 05:16 PM) pls read earlier where this was discuss already. geez. don't you think that was discussed already. you mean soxtalk does not talk about rumors and posters wishful trades or fa's signing???? you mean that every posters thinks the same and have the same opinion??? wow, i was really wrong here. i thought it was to share different opinions and for discussion of sports and sox. You are the one who is taking it extremely personally that people aren't agreeing with you. Anytime someone disagrees with you, you go on this long winded rant and even take it more personally if it is an admin or mod. Can you not handle it when people ask you to support an opinion? This isn't some crappy assed-facebook page. This is a page with extremely intelligent posters who want a little bit more than rumors and innuendo. Being able to share different opinions doesn't mean you get to say whatever you want, and everyone else has to bow down, agree, and accept it as the gospel truth. God forbid someone have higher standards than I read it on the internet, or heard it on talk radio. Being able to share different opinions means that people will probably disagree with you, and many will have their own facts to support it. If that bothers you this much, you have come to the wrong place.

QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 23, 2015 -> 05:06 PM) sure, a lot of players or people will admit that happen. if it didn't how come the players are not suing those who were quoted for defamation of character. there are a lot of proof that this reporter or that reporter are saying this. any way, why do i need to keep score if i proved my point to sway other posters.... what will that get me??? but being classy and neutral in all things, is what a admin and mod have... or to up hold a class act.... which i am not seeing in well i will leave it here. you can answer this any way you want. where there is smoke there is fire. I see $5.9 million worth of smoke, for a team that is still having cap problems. And as for mods/admins, no where does it say they have to not have opinions on debates just because they also give of their free time to keep this board running. That is just silly, and isn't what Soxtalk is about.

QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 23, 2015 -> 04:02 PM) so the reporters who saw it, the ones who rpt it, are fabricating it. right........ I would like a link to the story from the reporters who saw this first hand.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 22, 2015 -> 11:07 PM) I'm assuming you haven't seen Concussion yet. It's tracking around the 50's on metacritic. I'll agree that NPR or PBS type productions should have more impact than they often do. On the other hand, there's no reason why someone can't enjoy the documentary INSIDE JOB about the global financial/mortgage crisis and get something equally worthwhile out of THE BIG SHORT. I will agree with two of the harsher critics who believe the main character's POV wasn't the best possible way to present the story...that the attempts to dramatize the peaks and valleys of the doctor's career took away from the subject matter as Hollywood tried to shoehorn an equally compelling human interest side into the story. VarietyAndrew Barker Effective enough as a cautionary tale about willful ignorance and as a showcase for Will Smith...the film is let down by its confused and cliche-riddled screenplay, which struggles mightily to take a complex story and finesse it to fit story beats it was never meant to hit. Consequence of SoundJustin Gerber Concussion tries to “tell the truth!” but its filmmaker feels compelled to surround the truth with tales of a man whose life is just not that interesting. Most of the time the entertainment serves as a detraction from the actual information in the story.

Ace of MLB Stats ‏@theaceofspaeder 7h7 hours ago #WhiteSox Jose Abreu was MLB's best "bad ball hitter" in 2015. He led all of baseball with 76 hits on balls that were out of the zone.

IN all seriousness, instead of the movie, go to PBS.org and watch their special on NFL concussions. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/league-of-denial/

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Dec 22, 2015 -> 09:25 PM) 2014 was rough with Sale, Abreu, and Eaton all going down though. Sometimes it's not how many people get hurt/how long they're hurt, but who gets hurt. Even when you look at the three year data which includes 2014, we were only 29th, instead of 30th.

Chris Cotillo ‏@ChrisCotillo 1h1 hour ago Rumor at the beginning of the offseason was that Mark Buehrle would either retire or pitch for STL. Leake signing fills last rotation need.

Comcast SportsNet ‏@CSNChicago 4m4 minutes ago Report: #WhiteSox showing interest in Royals OF Alex Gordon: http://bit.ly/1Zo3QAM #WhiteSoxTalk

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Dec 22, 2015 -> 04:20 PM) Hey ladies....take this out back. Seriously. Can we get back to Alex Gordon and not trolling each other over things that happened years ago?

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 22, 2015 -> 02:52 PM) Oh....to hog this thread, one other thing I found of note from Lowe's piece. I still say, trade Rose for Russell. Lakers need their "star" to market. Pretty sure that would be salary cap impossible.

http://www.hardballtimes.com/2015-disabled...-a-little-more/ They lead MLB in least days lost to the disabled lists over the last year, 5 years and 15 years. They were the 2nd least over the 3 years span. Check out the link, it is a good read.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 22, 2015 -> 02:30 PM) Why does everyone want Gordon or Upton? Am I the only one that would be ecstatic to see the Sox get Cespedes? Honestly I think each of them brings one thing to the table that he does better than the other two. No matter which of the three the Sox were to get, it would really improve this team. Gordon is the best defender and LF Cespedes is the best powerhitter and RF. Upton is the better all around player.

QUOTE (reiks12 @ Dec 22, 2015 -> 01:04 PM) Who cares? The sox playing second fiddle doesn't stop me from enjoying baseball A lot of inferiority complexes care.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 21, 2015 -> 04:25 PM) Yep. Plus, I just want to see your reaction to Zbo on the Bulls, haha. On a sidenote, what is the Bulls benefit for this swap? Are we getting another asset? I'd think straight up Pau is the better player (and both are old). Is it purely because Zbo is around for longer (thus extending the window)? I'd have thought if we move Pau it would be to get a younger wing player (or draft picks). I'd be OK if they just kept him out of the clubs...

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Dec 21, 2015 -> 11:26 AM) Lillian: One thing I've found in being a Sox historian and following the team for 55 years is this. Chicago baseball fans are probably the most provincial and most hateful (and I really mean that term) towards the other team in town. Far more than any of the other two team markets. It has transpired over the course of 100 years. This was the first major mistake of the Reinsdorf - Einhorn operation and they should have known better given how long they lived in Chicago before getting the club. From the very beginning their attitude was "we are Chicago's American League team..." They said this publicly and often. I have in my library for example the post game show on WGN from April 81 after the Sox crushed the O's 18-5. Harry Caray asked Einhorn about the excitement around the Sox and how the Cubs bad start would help them and EE immediately started in with the same nonsense, "we don't care what the Cubs do, we compete against ourselves..." and so forth. That refusal to acknowledge the fact that both teams are in direct competition for the entertainment dollar, for media coverage, for sponsorship deals is a big reason the Sox are where they are in their own home market. They have had solid, reasonable chances to take back a good percentage of those areas and urinated them away every single time. The fact is Cubs fans are not going to come out and root, root, root for the Sox at U.S. Cellular Field when they are on the road or can't get tickets and the opposite is also true. I'd say 90% or higher of Chicago baseball fans are for one team at the expense of the other. The term "casual baseball fans in Chicago" in my mind really doesn't apply. So the Cubs selling out won't force those folks in any great numbers into heading south for a baseball fix because their aren't a lot of them in the first place. Just my opinion. Mark This could have stood alone.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 22, 2015 -> 09:31 AM) Astros already gave up a boatload for Giles. The latest MLB.com speculation about Gordon doesn't even have the White Sox as a mystery or surprise team...but does talk about KC, StL, SF, Baltimore, SF, the Angels, etc. Not a complete surprise, I guess. http://m.mlb.com/news/article/160176632/ma...gordons-suitors I can give you 25 million reasons why their trade returns would look different.

At some point, these three guys have to realize that there is a big incentive to not be the last one to sign. Teams are taking themselves out of the market quicker than nine figure deals are being offered. If I were the Sox, I'd be be perfectly willing to say one one that they have offers out to the others.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 22, 2015 -> 09:28 AM) Sure they can. To quote the great Jake Taylor, "Just win the whole f***ing thing". Do that 2 or 3 times, then you might steal the city. Never.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Dec 22, 2015 -> 08:42 AM) WTH is taking so long? $$$$$

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 22, 2015 -> 08:30 AM) Phil Rogers on MLBN suggesting Sox trade Robertson to fit one of the major OFs. Did he suggest trading him for Curtis Granderson?

No.