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QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Oct 28, 2015 -> 07:50 PM) How is this guy any different than Kyle Drabek? We all know how that worked out... MUCH higher ceiling.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Oct 28, 2015 -> 06:59 PM) When you've got the best trainer in the league and one of the best pitching coaches, you can afford to take these risks. THIS is what the Sox do well. I love moves like this.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Oct 28, 2015 -> 06:47 PM) 16 teams passed on him. It means the entire NL passed, plus the couple of teams in the AL the Sox were ahead of.

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Oct 28, 2015 -> 03:49 PM) Yeah the corruption is thick like LA smog in Chicago. Chicago is already taxed to oblivion, there had to be another way then dipping into our pockets. Sure. Giant cuts in the budget. I don't like Rahm much, but he didn't make this problem. Rich Daley did. The tipping point for this being ugly happened a long time ago.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Oct 28, 2015 -> 03:43 PM) I believe it's 38. Could be wrong, but I had 37 in my mind before this pick-up. Three on that list are pretty certain to be moved: Shark, Beckham, and Webb. Webb isn't getting removed. There is literally no reason for that to happen. Between free agents, and players that could actually be removed him before this, there is zero chance of that actually happening.

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QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Oct 28, 2015 -> 03:35 PM) I hope they fry Rahm. That schmuck and the city council just approved a property tax hike. Realistically, you can thank the Daley Dynasty for that. There were so many costs just kicked down the road that the choices weren't pretty. -Huge tax increases -Huge spending cuts -More long term borrowing to make the situation in the future even worse than it is now. Speaking as a Hoosier, we don't have those problems, and have really low taxes because of it.

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QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Oct 28, 2015 -> 03:02 PM) 1 guy doesn't allay those fears. Plenty of MLB hacks have lit up the Korean league so it again all comes down to scouting. Does he have a slow bat that works in Korea but not the US? I have no idea. Now maybe he is this phenom with an electric bat and tons of tools that are eye popping and if so, sure, maybe he'll get an Abreu like deal. My presumption is though the league and teams will be very cautious and again the position he plays should also limit the size of a deal. The guy has hit 50 homers in back to back seasons. No one has ever done that. Plus with power being at a premium around MLB, this guy will get paid.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Oct 28, 2015 -> 02:48 PM) Kang had far more position flexibility. Real question is what are his tools. Their is no way a korean 1B is getting a deal anywhere near Abreu's. And Kang's deal is only viewed as a bargain now...it was fair market at the time of the deal. It was fair market because no one knew if anyone from the Korean Pro League could hit here. Kang seems to have allayed those fears. Another factor... Boston is interestedd.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Oct 28, 2015 -> 02:30 PM) Given his position and relative age (still young...but not for long), I'll doubt he gets much of a contract (which limits the downside). I wouldn't mind giving a shot at him and see if he can hit. If he can, you have Abreu and him at 1B / DH. This is all presuming the price is right. Kang got 4 years and $11 million (which is seen as a HUGE bargain) and didn't put up the power numbers that this guy has. I would go out on a limb and bet on an Abreu sized deal in terms of max dollars.

Another Korean League posting, though this guy has a ton more power numbers. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/10/nexe...ng-ho-park.html

QUOTE (Coach @ Oct 28, 2015 -> 01:44 PM) The way the front office has been working for a few years I would not be surprised if they signed another aging veteran like Jose Conseco again.

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QUOTE (illinilaw08 @ Oct 28, 2015 -> 01:22 PM) I think there's a difference between excuses and ensuring that the proper context surrounds a discussion. 1) People are holding Groce to an historically unrealistic standard regarding recruiting (why doesn't he land 5 star recruits!!). Groce needs to fix the point guard situation, and hopefully Lucas is that guy. But other than point guard, recruiting has been good. 2) It's important to remember that Webber and Groce inherited very different programs. Webber inherited a program loaded with experienced talent (the core of the '05 team all played a ton in Self's first year) that would ultimately be the '05 team. Despite that, Webber was not able to recruit at an acceptable level until '09. By contrast, Groce inherited a program coming off a 6-12 B1G season that lost its lottery pick center. Without that context, I don't know how you can adequately evaluate Groce as a coach right now. Webber had some bad luck (Jamar Smith, the Carlwell crash, Eric Gordon), but he also had a large enough sample size that we knew his strengths and weaknesses. Groce has 3 full years in. One with Webber's holdovers where he overachieved, one with a gutted roster (the massive outflow of transfers) that was about at expectations (bubble team that just missed the tournament), and one that fell short of expectations, partially due to factors outside Groce's control (read, injuries). I don't see how you can discuss Groce without providing context to the events during his tenure here. And that's where I acknowledge that this is a huge season for Groce. The '17 class is loaded and deep in Illinois generally, and south of I-80 specifically. As bigruss said, if Groce doesn't win this year and has a lackluster '17 recruiting class, the heat should be on. As an outsider, I totally agree. Unless something drastic were to happen, such as a much dirtier coach being hired, Illinois isn't going to bring in the ridiculous classes that some schools have. They don't have the name, the tradition, or the coach to be able to do that. They are NOT a top tier school, and their recruiting will reflect that.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Oct 28, 2015 -> 12:40 PM) I would like to see Jimmy stay on the floor when Rose gets subbed out, and leave the floor for a brief time when Rose subs back in. I think they should share the court a lot, but also one of them should be on the court when the other isn't. Totally agree, especially as Rose gets back to 40 minute a night health.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Oct 28, 2015 -> 12:56 PM) Given his struggles to end the season and injury flare ups I'm a bit worried about depending on him. I know he's been Mr. Consistency, but that's not gonna last forever. I'd hate to find out the hard way just to make JR and the fans happy. It isn't about making anyone happy. It is about a realistic target that could help the team win.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 28, 2015 -> 01:01 PM) I agree. Plus, I am so sick about hearing about JR and the loyalty crap, if Buehrle or AJP or Uribe came back and sucked, which father time is making more likely by the hour, it would be in full force. I understand wanting Buerhle back based on his numbers, but 4 cortisone shots, left off the postseason roster, should speak volumes. I really hope that the White Sox management isn't spending a lot of time worrying about what message board posters have to say about how to run the franchise. That would be the one way I would completely give up on this organization.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Oct 28, 2015 -> 12:21 PM) Am I crazy, or would you guys be ok with the Sox trading Danks/LaRoche for ARod? I don't like ARod in the slightest, but he's still a better hitter than LaRoche. Alex is still owned 2 more years at $21 million each. He has had one year out of the last five that have been anywhere near worth anything at all. He also still has the mess of his bonuses hanging over him. I'd rather have Danks and LaRoche for one year and have the payroll next year. IF the Sox took a chance on Arod, I'd rather see it be for a Josh Hamilton to the Rangers type of deal where the Yankees pay down a ton of his contract and assume most of the risk, which I don't know is even possible anymore.

QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Oct 28, 2015 -> 12:22 PM) Maybe, but because his name is Mark Buehrle, the Sox know what kind of player (and guy) they would be getting by signing him. So, you're right to say that he's being talked about because of who he is, but by no means is that the only reason. His clubhouse presence is also another great point.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Oct 28, 2015 -> 12:11 PM) If his name wasn't Mark Buehrle it wouldn't even be discussed. His having played here for a decade + is a recruiting tool, absolutely. But it doesn't affect whether his signing would help the team to execute plans or not. But this isn't bringing back a no kneed Harold Baines. Mark Buehrle can still get major league hitters out, which is all that matters.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Oct 28, 2015 -> 12:10 PM) The only thing I'd take from last night's game is that we're 1 and 0. But right now that's all that matters. Yeah. Obviously you can't extrapolate what you saw, but it was nice to see that Snell and McDermott looked like guys who could score at the NBA level last night. It will be really nice when Dunleavy gets back and limits the second small guard on the floor so we don't see too many Rose/Brooks/Moore combinations on the floor at the same time. Being able to limit minutes for injury prone guys during the regular season will be huge for this team in the playoffs. Taking a guy like Noah, and keeping him around 25 to 30 minutes at 100%, versus 42 minutes will payoff in the long run for him. I have no doubt it will cost us a few wins during the regular season, but in the long run that doesn't matter as much as the playoffs.

QUOTE (MnSoxFan @ Oct 28, 2015 -> 12:00 PM) Trey can only play on Wed and Sat games, he is like a taxi squad player. And a couple of those have been rained out.

QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Oct 28, 2015 -> 12:01 PM) It seems as if he can still pitch. If he were to be signed for a year or two for a moderate deal, I'd be okay with it. He's not going to be a #1 or #2 starter...he'd more likely to be a #4 or #5 guy. But he still got very close to 200 innings last year, so there's really no reason to think he couldn't pitch 175+ next year. As a 5th starter innings-eater, that would be perfect. All that being said, though, if the Sox were to sign him and trade Q, the return for Q would have to fill one of the crucial holes. I think he can still pitch too. Put him in a jersey for 1 year and somewhere between $10 and $15 million, and I am ok with that.