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QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Aug 5, 2015 -> 03:34 PM) If both Anderson and Fulmer reach their ceilings, Anderson will be better. It will be a minuscule difference and the White Sox will be very happy. I agree, but the odds of both making their ceilings are much more favorable for Fulmer versus Anderson.

QUOTE (AustinIllini @ Aug 5, 2015 -> 03:40 PM) Other teams can grow their own talent. The White Sox are incapable among position players. Even if you take out the qualification "plays for the White Sox", the list is much too small because Kenny Williams is a terrible judge of positional talent. And before you say "Rick Hahn is the GM", he hasn't had that much positional talent brought up. We do grow talent. But when you start adding caveats to make it look like we don't, it changes the appearance.

QUOTE (AustinIllini @ Aug 5, 2015 -> 02:16 PM) Texas cities don't love baseball like Illinois does. Chicago Major Sports teams, by Popularity 1) Bears 2) Blackhawks 2a) Bulls 3) Cubs Gap 4) White Sox Houston Major Sports teams, by Popularity 1) Texans 2) Longhorns 3) Aggies 4) Cowboys (trust me, this is true) 5) Rockets 6) Astros Texas doesn't value baseball like Chicago does. It's a completely different culture. The Astros are not a true major market team. Houston makes the Astros a mid market team. As recently as 2009 the Astros brought in as much revenue as the White Sox did. With the mess that has been their TV deal, that has had a huge hit to their revenues. Clear that up, and they are pretty identical franchises. And that is after averaging right about 100 losses a season over a 5 year period.

QUOTE (AustinIllini @ Aug 5, 2015 -> 02:33 PM) So outside of pitchers, who was the last good talent to play major time for the White Sox after being drafted by the White Sox? Gordon Beckham And he's not much to write home about, either. See that's the thing. You can nitpick with any franchise you want if you add enough exclusions.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Aug 5, 2015 -> 02:18 PM) A true rebuild will never happen when JR is in charge. The fans are too fickle and he is still mocked to this day for the last full rebuild he attempted (White Flag trades). It is not really fair to say the Sox cannot develop hitting talent, they really have not even tried. They had Semien and Johnson both reach the majors in the last year as 5-10 round draft picks. They have really focused heavily on pitching at the expense of drafting hitters with the potential to impact the game. The Sox scouts are also overly enamored with RH power. This leads to selecting/signing guys that have light tower power in batting practice but have an excessive amount of swing and miss in their game and often poor pitch recognition. Since Hahn has taken over the draft, they have done much better selecting hitting prospects, but they are still a ways away from contributing. A full rebuild would be tough to pull off, you have young, high quality cost controlled assets not that you would be turning around for young, unknown quality cost controlled assets. The biggest mistake that Hahn made was adding LaRoche and Cabrera this off-season and giving a piece of the fan base a notion that the team was going to contend this year and giving up a draft pick, this is only year 2 of the rebuilding project and it has a ways to go yet before success can be sustainable. You are barely into the last rebuild, why would want to tear it apart and start over? The thread should end right here.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 5, 2015 -> 09:20 AM) The White Sox won't pay a front office exec $10 million per season until around say 2030... Seeing as Dombrowski was supposedly one of the highest paid front office guys in baseball, and he was making $3 million a year, I think your numbers are off.

We aren't going anywhere without the pitching getting back to normal, it doesn't matter if Jobu himself managed this team.

Doug Padilla ‏@ESPNChiSox 43s44 seconds ago Trayce Thompson not starting today but manager Robin Ventura suggests he will start Wed.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 04:20 PM) Dave built and sustained the Montreal farm system which was considered among the best or the best in baseball for years. He's exactly what the Sox need to take over completely the minor league operations. Mark He is not going anywhere to be their minor league ops guy. He is either going to be a GM or a team President.

Since Dombrowski was originally with the Sox, wouldn't hiring him be a loyalty move?

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 03:44 PM) That's assuming a whole bunch of things though. The big assumptions are that Samardjiza keeps pitching like he has, and that the market for baseball players doesn't completely collapse before November. In 2015, a pitcher like Jeff Samardjiza is a $100 million pitcher.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 03:43 PM) If the Sox do anything in free agency I think it will be Cespedes. The term of the deal won't be as long and no draft pick compensation attached make him a solid match. Upton and Heyward will be out of the realm of possibility for the Sox. out of curiosity, what other teams are in the market for guys like Cespedes and Upton?

3/45, 3/69, and 4/66 would get laughed out the room. The guy already turned down 5/85 from the Cubs, so you know that anything below that isn't worth offering. If the Sox really plan on that, they should just not make an offer so as not to insult the guy.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 03:39 PM) Was he actually fired or was this more for Dave to pursue other things? We also will never know how much certain signings were tied to Dombrowski thinking they were the right moves vs. Ilitch saying, its okay, I'd rather pay the extra premium knowing the potential downside. Sounds like Chris Illitch wanted him out to take over, and Dombrowski might have had something else lining up as well. My guess is that he knew the Illitch kid was running him out, so he started scouting out another job. I'd imagine he has something all but lined up already.

Bob Nightengale ‏@BNightengale 12m12 minutes ago Dave Dombrowski will now be rumored everywhere from #RedSox to #BlueJays to #Angels to #Mariners. Jon Morosi ‏@jonmorosi 14m14 minutes ago My column on Dombrowski' status and Chris Ilitch's rising influence in organization from last month: http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/detroit...-manager-071015 …

QUOTE (AustinIllini @ Aug 2, 2015 -> 12:51 PM) Small market? Yeah, okay. The White Sox have deep pockets and a huge, sleeping fanbase. If the pitchers can win games, get butts in the seats, you pay for them at market price even with the bad money at the end. The White Sox are 21st in total revenue ($227 million in 2014) in MLB according to Forbes, putting them in between such big market franchises as Minnesota ($223m) San Diego ($224m), Milwaukee ($226m), Cincinnati ($227m) and Toronto ($227m). Other notables ahead of the White Sox include the large market teams of Pittsburgh and Kansas City. Just for scale, the Yankees pulled in just over half a billion in revenue last year ($508 million), while the Dodgers pulled in $403 million.

http://www.milb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=2...lb&sid=milb

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Aug 3, 2015 -> 11:24 AM) http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/08/...=social_twitter Pretty much everything the media told us about this case was wrong. No hands up, no shots in the back.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 11:10 AM) It's by league first though. So if JD Martinez was let go by Astros, AL team, he would have been claimed by Tigers with a middle order claim since they get to go before any NL team. Wasn't Houston still in the NL then?

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 10:42 AM) And yet how many times has the same been said about Mike Trout around here? Also silly for the same reason.

QUOTE (Brian @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 11:08 AM) Exactly. Sudekis in the first wasn't stupid. In 2, it was over the top. And for the record, totally agree.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 11:06 AM) I got sick of Charlie Day and Jason Sudekis acting like bigger idiots than the first movie. That along with the fact that it wasn't all that funny just ruined it. The only scene I really laughed at was in the out takes where Bateman said something about it smelling like s***, and Sudekis said something about the smell being his horrible acting.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 10:59 AM) Garcia simply hasn't been the same player since he hurt that knee in Oakland. He was off to a very good start. You wonder if something is still wrong with it. Mark I agree that he hasn't been the same.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 4, 2015 -> 10:21 AM) JD Martinez would have looked nice in RF or LF and wouldn't have cost us a thing other than a waiver claim. We passed. Detroit didn't. Thirty bombs this year already. Seeing as he got to a first place team, that means the entire NL passed, as did almost all of the AL. Something like 25 teams passed on JD.

Horrible Bosses 2 was probably the worst movie I have seen in quite a while. You know a movie is bad when one of the outtakes after the movie is over has the funniest line in the entire movie.