August 3, 201510 yr Chicago White SoxVerified account @whitesox White Sox have promoted Nick Hostetler to director of amateur scouting and Doug Laumann to senior advisor to scouting operations. This is a big move.
August 3, 201510 yr QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Aug 3, 2015 -> 02:40 PM) Chicago White SoxVerified account @whitesox White Sox have promoted Nick Hostetler to director of amateur scouting and Doug Laumann to senior advisor to scouting operations. This is a big move. Why is it a big move?
August 3, 201510 yr Author QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Aug 3, 2015 -> 02:41 PM) Why is it a big move? Because I don't think Doug Laumann is good at his job.
August 3, 201510 yr Author QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 3, 2015 -> 02:41 PM) Would love to know what this really means for structure. To me, it looks like they moved Laumann out of the position. Kept him in organization because this is what Jerry Reinsdorf does.
August 3, 201510 yr QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Aug 3, 2015 -> 03:44 PM) To me, it looks like they moved Laumann out of the position. Kept him in organization because this is what Jerry Reinsdorf does. the alternative could be involved in the same process but with more wide-ranging responsibilities, promotion with more salary but still oversight of the same role. We saw something like that with Kenny.
August 3, 201510 yr Author This clears up some of the questions: http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/08/03/whi...nick-hostetler/
August 3, 201510 yr QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Aug 3, 2015 -> 08:51 PM) Rick making moves i wonder if this is indictation of the results of a power struggle. just talking aloud.
August 3, 201510 yr QUOTE (raBBit @ Aug 3, 2015 -> 03:16 PM) This move has been in the works for over a year. There should another promotion soon. Not sure if the article Y2Jimmy posted included this (my flight's wifi is terrible and can't load anything), but I have been told it's likely Kirk Champion, the field coordinator, who will also be getting a promotion. If this has indeed been in the works for awhile I'm wrong... But this SCREAMS that Hahn wasn't satisfied with the information he was provided by his scouting dept during the recent trade negotiations.
August 3, 201510 yr For what it's worth, I was tipped off about something along these lines a few months ago. The person I heard from said Rick started to listen more and more to Hostetler at the expense of Laumann. The person that I was in touch with felt Laumann was actually better at his job than Hostetler. We'll see how it work out. One thing is clear...over the last 15 years the Sox have had a number of people in charge of amateur scouting and minor league operations. In my opinion that's part of the reason the minor league system is in the shape its been in. Mark Edited August 3, 201510 yr by Lip Man 1
August 3, 201510 yr QUOTE (GREEDY @ Aug 3, 2015 -> 08:22 PM) If this has indeed been in the works for awhile I'm wrong... But this SCREAMS that Hahn wasn't satisfied with the information he was provided by his scouting dept during the recent trade negotiations. ok you peaked my interest, now can you explain how ??? unless it is a assumption.
August 3, 201510 yr QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Aug 3, 2015 -> 08:27 PM) For what it's worth, I was tipped off about something along these lines a few months ago. The person I heard from said Rick started to listen more and more to Hostetler at the expense of Laumann. The person that I was in touch with felt Laumann was actually better at his job than Hostetler. We'll see how it work out. One thing is clear...over the last 15 years the Sox have had a number of people in charge of amateur scouting and minor league operations. In my opinion that part of the reason the minor league system is in the shape its been in. Mark ok i just thought it was s KW people vs Hahn people.
August 3, 201510 yr QUOTE (LDF @ Aug 3, 2015 -> 03:27 PM) ok you peaked my interest, now can you explain how ??? unless it is a assumption. What part of my post didn't make it sound like an assumption?
August 3, 201510 yr QUOTE (GREEDY @ Aug 3, 2015 -> 09:29 PM) What part of my post didn't make it sound like an assumption? touche
August 3, 201510 yr QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Aug 3, 2015 -> 03:27 PM) For what it's worth, I was tipped off about something along these lines a few months ago. The person I heard from said Rick started to listen more and more to Hostetler at the expense of Laumann. The person that I was in touch with felt Laumann was actually better at his job than Hostetler. We'll see how it work out. One thing is clear...over the last 15 years the Sox have had a number of people in charge of amateur scouting and minor league operations. In my opinion that part of the reason the minor league system is in the shape its been in. Mark It hasn't seem like it has been that many. Laumann was 9 of those years.
August 3, 201510 yr QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Aug 3, 2015 -> 03:59 PM) God forbid they'd go out of house to find a replacement... My thoughts exactly. We are craving for a new identity yet they keep promoting from within. This pretty much means nothing will change in regards to scouting and development. The scouting approach will most likely remain the same and the farm system will continue to lack depth year in and year out.
August 3, 201510 yr ok, i tried to look up Hostetler. he work for 3 yr with atl before rejoining the sox. but many have a point. should the sox need to look outside the org. but the question is, why the internal move now??? what caused this chg?? http://www.csnchicago.com/white-sox/mlb-dr...cenes-white-sox
August 3, 201510 yr QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Aug 3, 2015 -> 04:21 PM) My thoughts exactly. We are craving for a new identity yet they keep promoting from within. This pretty much means nothing will change in regards to scouting and development. The scouting approach will most likely remain the same and the farm system will continue to lack depth year in and year out. What if Nick is actually a great choice for this job? We have no idea how good he actually is, screaming that we need to go outside the org for help without knowing a single thing about this guy or replacement options adds little to this board or this discussion.
August 3, 201510 yr QUOTE (LDF @ Aug 3, 2015 -> 03:16 PM) just talking aloud. is there another way to talk?
August 3, 201510 yr QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 3, 2015 -> 02:49 PM) Scouted Gordon Beckham... :o The last even remotely successful White Sox position player drafted by the team.
August 3, 201510 yr I need to get a job in the White Sox front office. Display negative results year after year, get promoted!
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