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Chris Cotillo ‏@ChrisCotillo 16m16 minutes ago Luke Hochevar breakdown with #Royals: $4M in 2015, $5.5M in 2016, $7M mutual option for 2017 w/ $500K buyout. Hochevar deal includes a salary escalator that raises his 2016 salary from $5.5M to $6.5M with 23 GS or 150 IP in 2015. #Royals With incentive reached/option exercised, Hochevar complete deal could reach $17.5M over three years with #Royals. Hochevar deal includes performance bonuses for both starting and relieving. Unclear at the moment what his role will be in 2015.

Let me guess... winter meetings?

Just kidding.

God damn it newbie, KEEP UP!

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 5, 2014 -> 10:25 AM) I'm sorry, but your theory loses all credibility at "oh poor pitcher". Ignoring the increased likelihood of injury that throwing in-game side sessions would result in is ridiculous. I don't care what some "old-timers" were able to years ago, most pitchers today are not conditioned to handle that much additional stress. IMO, this strategy would likely be an epic disaster. I think the underlying concept makes some sense, but you can't force the human body to do something it's incapable of. Pitchers would break down and then you're running out replacement level talent which would more than offset any benefit of the original plan. Agreed. You can't really compare the pitchers of today and yesterday because of WAY different styles of pitching philosophy between the games.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 5, 2014 -> 11:06 AM) The Cubs seem to have just as good of a shot at competing in the next 6 seasons as the White Sox, if not better. Why would he give a discount to the White Sox that he did not give to the Cubs? There are points in between the insulting offer the Cubs gave, and market value, which the two parties could agree on.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 5, 2014 -> 09:01 AM) Wow, this is a really hot take. REALLY HOT TAKE. This is not true in the least. I think Quintana would easily get $20+ million. He's just not a household name and we underrate our own. Jose Quintana is like really, really good you guys. And he would get a really LONG contract too because of his age.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 5, 2014 -> 10:47 AM) In Blengino's article yesterday about Donaldson, he made a really interesting point when talking about Felix: http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/some-belate...donaldson-deal/ Where I am going with that is basically that I think elite prospects, which we can safely assume Montas is at least on the precipice of being if not already there, are even MORE valuable then their semi-less talented contemporaries based solely on that talent alone due to the roster crunch. Given that, I think you want to save that added value to trade him for an elite or semi-elite player, and I don't think we can safe Moss is that at this point in his career. I'd definitely give up some prospects for him, just not sure what yet, but I don't know that I'd give up anyone in the top 10. Maybe Beck/Bassitt and Ravelo? Not a lot, but they're legitimate prospects and should be MLB contributors even as soon as this season. Which is why a young, cheap, major league star hitter is the starting point of any Chris Sale deal.

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QUOTE (ptatc @ Dec 4, 2014 -> 04:53 PM) From what I've read, the grand jury was asked to give an indictment on criminal intent. I would agree with the grand jury that there was no criminal intent. I do disagree with the rule/policy that this is what needs to be proven. I really don't think the officers were thretened in this case. There should be a civil on something like involuntary manslaughter or some type of causing accidental death. This is the first time I have seen this. That makes a HUGE difference here. That is a whole different burden than what is being discussed.

Freep Sports ‏@freepsports 22s22 seconds ago Updated: #Tigers sending Robbie Ray, acquired in last year's Doug Fister deal, to Arizona. http://on.freep.com/1s22GJo

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Dec 4, 2014 -> 05:49 PM) Why do you guys waste your time with that guy? He's either completely delusional or just making s*** up to get a rise out of others. bingo. See also The Score.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Dec 4, 2014 -> 04:31 PM) Haha, what a coincidence, I had gotten in to a big twitter pissing match with him a few days ago because he was insisting the Sox have "no talent" outside of Sale and Abreu. I mentioned Quintana, and he laughed at me saying he was "a solid #3 guy", as if even if that was true, that would still be considered "no talent". Then when I pointed out that Q was a top 10 pitcher in baseball last year, he laughed at said "Bahahaha, I'm sure Adam Eaton will be a top 10 CF next year too!!!", which is funny because he easily could be. He should have said like Viciedo or something that would have been a stretch. Idiot meatball Boston fan then went on to say "Let's see if the White Sox can get to 74 wins", which was not only never part of my conversation with him, but his Red Sox had a pretty terrible 2014 as well. Basically his twitter feed is just an abortion. I can't believe anyone allows him to put his radio station's name on his twitter. Um, he is getting attention for the station, which is working pretty well considering you just put time into a back and forth with him. He is doing exactly what he set out to do.

QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 4, 2014 -> 03:14 PM) They won't go no matter what if the Sox don't compete for the division. Just like Reddy, by no means do I want the White Sox to trade Sale. However, if it's a deal that is just far too good to pass up, then they need to consider it. And I do apologize to all for the stupid XBox trade type suggestions. I'm not a fan of the Red Sox farm system compared to the Cubs, who have the bigger impact talent. Kinda like White Flag?

QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 4, 2014 -> 02:49 PM) If the Sox trade Sale, they better make the other team take back Danks as well. If the Red Sox want to give the Sox Betts, Bogaerts, Swihart, and a few of their top pitching prospects for Danks and Sale, I think Hahn should do it. We might as well move to San Antonio at that point because there will be no one going to games on the south side.

7 years ago today... http://www.milb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=2...b&fext=.jsp

QUOTE (Reddy @ Dec 4, 2014 -> 02:44 PM) I had the same reaction as you guys, but if you think about it. Kid's value has never been higher - you could command ANYTHING for him. And we all know there's a distinct possibility his arm falls off in the near future. Maybe it won't. Maybe he's a freak of nature. But we all know what happened to the other "Freak" (Lincecum). Just saying, maybe...... maybe it's not as completely bat-s*** crazy as it sounds. Nope. It is completely bat s*** crazy. Boston could offer their entire top 5 prospect list, and I would turn it down as not enough.

Quit reading the tweets for anyone who isn't being paid to be on twitter.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 3, 2014 -> 08:42 PM) Took me 4 tries to log in on this fixing phone. And why is this thread on the 2nd page? Losers. Happy Christmas party? That should be me tonight. They are doing it at Shay on Ontario tonight. Never been there.

Behave, all of you!

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 4, 2014 -> 11:07 AM) If everyone on here is stingy about giving huge contracts to pitchers its gonna be interesting when Sale is towards the end of his deal wanting ace money. Already took his security contract. With the sox not wanting to invest a lot of money on pitching, no way Sale is here in the long run. (Not advocating to trade Sale now or anything but there might be a time to actually consider it) Edit: ace money in like 5 years will be around 30 mill easily. Even if he took lesser you're still playing more than 20 mill a year Ace money IS now $30 million. Look at the Kershaw deal.

Seth Gruen ‏@SethGruen 1h1 hour ago Report: Florida hires Colorado State's Jim McElwain: http://chicagosuntimes.com/sports/report-f...s-jim-mcelwain/ …

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 4, 2014 -> 10:34 AM) Im pretty sure McDermott is getting a redshirt year. It seemed to work out for Jimmy Butler pretty well It is the typical thing from Thibs.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Dec 4, 2014 -> 09:47 AM) So Mirotic is playing extremely well and McDermott is a benchwarmer. I think we all said at the beginning of the season that if just one of the 2 turns into something valuable, then we'd be fine. I really want to see McDermott succeed, but he really hasn't shown much outside of one or two games. But then again, someone who gets maybe 5-6 minutes a game will have a hard time truly showcasing his talent. He'll be fine.

QUOTE (Jake @ Dec 4, 2014 -> 06:29 AM) I don't think Lester is going to do all that much for the Cubs. All that does is replace what was lost in Samardzija, more or less. Very good point. They really need multiple starters to move ahead.