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Daryl Van Schouwen ‏@CST_soxvan 1h Chris Sale gets it if he gets only 2 more starts. 'We wouldn’t jeopardize anything to make 1 more.' Sun-Times Sports http://bit.ly/1ASloqC

Big Ten Talk ‏@CSNBigTen 1h NCAA denies appeal, Joliet Catholic's Ty Isaac won't play for #Wolverines this year: http://bit.ly/1yi03uL #B1GTalk

ChiTribSports ‏@ChiTribSports 1h MLB suspends umpire West one game in Papelbon incident http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/break....html?track=rss …

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Sep 17, 2014 -> 01:48 PM) They had a handshake deal of $6.5 million at draft time. That's $1.5 million under slot and the reason why they took Aiken. Then they did the physical, found the "small ligament" and decided that they'd only offer $5 million. Yeah I am talking about after the testing, not before.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Sep 17, 2014 -> 01:06 PM) I need a Quintana shirsey. I just do. The question I have is this: how should I represent his name on the back? Quintana or Quetzalcoatl? I take it THEBLOODYPENIS is out?

QUOTE (iamshack @ Sep 17, 2014 -> 12:55 PM) I don't buy into that white flag nonsense. These fans aren't coming out anyways. Get a team on the field that wins consistently, and the fans will show up. I understand Sale's value. My argument was premised on the idea of getting something close to full value for him. If that is simply impossible, than it makes no sense to move him. What I'm saying is that I don't believe there are players in baseball that are simply immovable, and Chris should not be considered as such. You can "not buy into it", but it is a real consideration for the front office, and it is the reason we could really never do a full rebuild like the Astros or Cubs. It is also the reason we could never trade a Cy Young calibur Chris Sale.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 17, 2014 -> 10:09 AM) You yourself admitted you have used a guy with 2 WAR taking the win total 2 wins higher. I am not complaining to complain. If a 6 WAR guy isn't 4 wins better than a 2 WAR guy, the stat is poorly named. The name isn't meaningless. It implies and has been used to suggest exactly what I am saying. No statistic at all can by applied like you are applying it. Being a .250 hitter, doesn't mean you get a hit every 4th AB. It means on the average, you get a hit every four times to the plate, but that could be a mix of 3-3 and 0-9 to make it a .250 average. When you replace a .250 hitter with a .333 hitter, that doesn't mean you get an extra hit every 12 ABs automatically, just like replacing a 2 WAR player with a 6 WAR player means you automatically get 4 more wins. You still play the games to figure that part out. It is the same with pitching. Replacing a 10 game winner with a 20 game winner doesn't mean you are promised 10 more wins just because the stat is named "wins".

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Sep 17, 2014 -> 10:32 AM) I think almost every team in the league would be willing to take a chance on him, including the Astros themselves. If you believe the reports, it seemed they re-thought it and re-offered the initial $6.5 million guarantee to Aiken that the two had originally come to, but Close and Aiken were both very upset about how the Astros handled the situation and no longer wanted to deal with them. I have only seen that they offered $5 million, not $6.5.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Sep 17, 2014 -> 10:50 AM) Ok, this is where I struggle to understand the outrage when the mere mention of trading Sale is raised. If we can go to market and buy 1 if not 2 aces, why is the idea met with such universal disdain? The problem is two fold. The biggest isn't the on the field product, is the off of the field perseption of the team. 20 years later, Sox fans STILL have the automatic reaction of WHITE FLAG to anything perceived as setting the franchise back in time. The other problem is that Chris Sale is not only an ace, but he is the cheapest Ace in baseball, and he is that way for a really long time. That has a lot of do with what the market price of Chris Sale would be in a trade.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Sep 16, 2014 -> 10:24 PM) All I can say is I have a very large fear that we are throwing away a key asset's most productive years because the rest of the team isn't ready to compete, under a coaching staff that seems very lax on fundamentals. I know it's unpopular, but I just can't help thinking we should trade him to more adequately capitalize on his value now, if at all possible. All trading Chris Sale would do is alienate a generation of Sox fans who would look back on it for decades and use it against the team.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Sep 17, 2014 -> 12:49 AM) In fact, here is something pretty interesting with Wilkins in his very very very small sample size. His plate discipline rates match up very closely with one of the best hitters in baseball this year...Jose Abreu. % of pitches OUTSIDE of the zone that a hitter has swung at Wilkins - 35.1% Abreu - 41.2% % of pitches INSIDE the zone that a hitter has swung at Wilkins - 76.5% Abreu - 73.4% The big difference between the two players is really when it comes to actually making CONTACT with those pitches. Contact % of pitches OUTSIDE of the zone that a hitter has swung at Wilkins - 45% Abreu - 55.2% Contact % of pitches INSIDE of the zone that a hitter has swung at Wilkins - 76.9% Abreu - 87.8% This isn't really to prove anything other than Wilkins and Abreu have similar plate disciplines, Abreu just happens to have far superior contact skills. Look at a guy like Josh Phegley, and he swings at nearly 78% of the pitches he gets outside of the zone, and only swings at 55% of the pitches that are thrown inside the strike zone. He has no idea where the pitches are in relation to the zone, he just happens to make more contact than Wilkins. All of that for what? To tell us that Abreu is a much better hitter than Wilkins? Uh, ok. I think we all got that.

QUOTE (flavum @ Sep 16, 2014 -> 10:38 PM) Wilkins is going to be a guy you forget in about two years. "Oh yeah, that guy that came up after Dunn was traded." It was mere weeks ago we were supposed to be trading guys to make room for him. There is always the possibility that the Sox management knows what they are doing? Nah.

QUOTE (Señor Ding-Dong @ Sep 16, 2014 -> 08:35 PM) Regardless of his performance tonight, how is three starts enough to determine if anyone is a decent pitcher? Yeah, that is pretty short-sighted, at best.

We'll put stuff about non-related Sox players movement, signings, and other rumors here. Chris Cotillo ‏@ChrisCotillo 26m #BlueJays will make a qualifying offer to Melky Cabrera this offseason, as @SungMinKim116 writes: http://www.mlbdailydish.com/2014/9/16/6259...r-melky-cabrera …

QUOTE (onedude @ Sep 16, 2014 -> 06:39 PM) Sale Intentional Talk Most of it was pretty lame, though the part about Belli's dress style was pretty funny.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Sep 16, 2014 -> 04:37 PM) I don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but has anyone ever wondered how many kids AP has? He had a son die last year, and reportedly has beaten 2 different sons with 2 different women. So by that count thats 3 different women he has had children with. Clearly this guy is not a family guy. Earilier it was said around a dozen.

@darrenrovell Follow Adrian Peterson's profile & all content relating to him have been taken off Wheaties website

Daryl Van Schouwen ‏@CST_soxvan 8m Konerko said he might be available Wednesday. If not then, Friday (after off day Thurs).

If you take a look at numbers like this, there are a whole lot of easy wins out there which could be grabbed next year, with just guys not having career worst years out of the pen. Dan Hayes ‏@CSNHayes 4m Also, Mon. was the 39th loss in which the #WhiteSox allowed an opposing team to rally to win. Only Texas (43) has more losses. Per @EliasSports, Mon. was 6th time in 2014 the #WhiteSox lost when leading by at least 3 runs in the 7th inning or later. Leads MLB.

QUOTE (TheTruth05 @ Sep 16, 2014 -> 03:03 PM) Can they even pull their beer from stadiums? never even gave it a thought. Depends on their contract, but I am sure there are out clauses built in for extenuating circumstances.

ChiTribSports ‏@ChiTribSports 9m Grand jury to decide if Tony Stewart will face charges in driver's death http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/break....html?track=rss …

Jon Morosi ‏@jonmorosi 1m Of last winter's long-unsigned 5 -- Cruz, Santana, Jimenez, Drew, Morales -- only Cruz has been above-average this year. (Santana 98 ERA+)

Stanton, before and after. Not Safe for Queasy about Blood People. http://instagram.com/p/tA6J_NQ6lg/

Scott Merkin ‏@scottmerkin 15m Paul Konerko is the White Sox nominee for the 2014 Roberto Clemente award.

I'm sure it won't go anywhere, but... Travis Waldron ‏@Travis_Waldron 32m Sen. Maria Cantwell: "In the next few days I will be dropping legislation to end" NFL's nonprofit tax status.