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Seth Gruen ‏@SethGruen 1h The #WhiteSox have announced team is donating 20k to #JackieRobinsonWest LL and will honor team Saturday at U.S. Cellular Field

Unless it is against the White Sox. https://twitter.com/MLBMeme/status/50473692...8323200/photo/1

OK, that stuff is just silly.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Aug 28, 2014 -> 04:59 PM) Seems pretty obvious no team is willing to pay a couple million for .1 WAR or whatever. Makes perfect sense to me. If the Sox have to send along cash then f*** it. The Sox have to pay Dunn anyway. There is no reason for them to be looking to not send money with him at this stage. Nobody wants the guy.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Aug 28, 2014 -> 05:50 PM) he was torched his last start, though wasn't he? The Sox are probably looking a little bigger picture than just one start.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 28, 2014 -> 05:06 PM) I still can't possibly believe that no team would take Adam Dunn for the last 2 months for $1-2 million. It seems crazy to me. The A's have been struggling to score runs for the last month, fallen out of first place, traded away a big middle of the order bat, took on salary, and they're willing to go to a 1 game playoff to save $2 million? They just gave away Gordon Beckham for essentially nothing. There is no reason they woudl be holding on to Dunn right now, other than no one wants him.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 28, 2014 -> 04:18 PM) It should have happened a month ago and I have no clue why it hasn't. Well. There is one obvious answer.

Bernie Pleskoff ‏@BerniePleskoff 15m #Dbacks have claimed OF Nolan Reimold off waivers from #BlueJays. I think this is a solid move-and Chase Field fits his swing nicely.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 28, 2014 -> 03:32 PM) Yes, but you would have thought the same with Erik Johnson coming into this season. I'll be absolutely shocked if Bassit posts better numbers for a month than EJ did last September...especially when facing teams that are desperate and hungry for wins like that Tigers' line-up. And what would you have thought about Hector Noesi?

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 28, 2014 -> 12:25 PM) Eaton, Gillaspie, and Abreu have batted ahead of Dunn in 25 games this year. Abreu and Eaton have both hit in front of Dunn 61 times this year. Abreu has cleared the bases 33 times when batting in front of Adam Dunn. Adam Dunn is also on pace for about 500 plate appearances this season. He also does not hit for a very high average but hits a lot of home runs and walks a lot. He's had 99 PA's with RISP, of which he has produced 32 RBI's. Alexei in 132 PA's with RISP has driven in 49 runs. Conor in 95 PA's has knocked in 38 runs. Both of those guys have done it at a higher rate, and I wouldn't call either of them "run producers".

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 28, 2014 -> 12:32 PM) You ask "who is more likely to be a top 10 MVP candidate," between 3 players who are not likely to be MVPs of a league, which includes, at the bare minimum, 375 players, and I respond with neither because this is a true point. I ask "who would you rather see up in a game situation?" and give two options when disproving your notion that RBI is a meaningful statistic and, in making my very generalized point, you respond with Victor Martinez. Sweet, now if you can let Dombrowski and Ausmus know that we're just gonna use Victor Martinez in this situation which has nothing to do with him, that'd be awesome. Do you see the difference? OK, so who would you rather have up in that situation, Adam Dunn or Gordon Beckham? Remember that Gordon Beckham is going to have more RBI. Or a real life situation with real life numbers: who would you rather have up in that situation, Adam Dunn (50 RBI) or Aaron Hill (55 RBI)? Lyle Mouton.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 28, 2014 -> 11:42 AM) So if Adam Dunn hit .500/.650/.900 with 60 home runs, but no one got on base in front of him and he only have 60 RBIs, you would say he is not a run producer. That is the logic you are using when using RBI to define "run-producer." If you had the preseason odds for who was more likely to win the World Series and the choices were Padres, Cubs, or Twins, your answer would be "who gives a s***, it isn't going to happen so why bother?" I mean, we could be talking like 100:1 versus 150:1 versus 200:1 and no matter how you slice it, none of them are likely. Except he has had Abreu and Eaton in front of him for most of the year, along with Gillaspie for a large amount of ABs, who are three of the top OBP guys in baseball.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 28, 2014 -> 11:22 AM) Then the trade is getting tabled until next July, when Rodon for Stanton straight up makes sense (crosses fingers). Yeah, I don't think that ever happens, but I am more going towards what it would take to get the guy. I see no non-Rodon offer we could make for Stanton, that someone else wouldn't blow away.

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Aug 28, 2014 -> 11:07 AM) Danish, Hawkins, Anderson & Jared Mitchell. 3 1/2 first-rounders; does that get Stanton? I feel like Anderson and Danish in a package should get us to any discussion table. We finally have a prospect that the Marlins would want. Rodon. Go from there.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 28, 2014 -> 10:48 AM) But when people say that the White Sox are going to spend more than that, I think that's a pretty solid case that there's a $35 million-ish ceiling to what they have to play with this year and they might stay well under it. It's like the person who suggested Delmon Young. As you said, it's just a post on the internet, but the odds of the Chairman spending money on a person who ranted about the f***ing Jews seem low to me. Exactly. A $100 million dollar payroll is the absolute ceiling for next year with a common sense look at things. It wouldn't be "easy" by any stretch.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Aug 28, 2014 -> 10:11 AM) I wish people would leave the move-Micah-to-the-OF thing alone. The ONLY reason it is brought up is because of his speed. He's never played there, and has a hard enough time with the glove at 2B, and you want him to change positions? His arm isn't great either. Plus with his elbow issues, as we've discussed before, they are likely caused by poor throwing mechanics. So he's a greater injury risk in the OF than at 2B. Just doesn't make sense to do it. Semien, on the other hand, COULD be a corner OF. He's got a good arm, enough speed, he's played there a bit this year, and they want to get his bat in the lineup. Not to mention if he having hamstring issues, the OF isn't going to help that either.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 28, 2014 -> 10:28 AM) So JR was lying when he said the team will make money this year? And Hahn is lying when he said he was going to spend some money this offseason if his targets are available? You should probably go back and read the rest of the thread and then start over again. This discussion has never been about "losing money".

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 28, 2014 -> 10:13 AM) If the White Sox's revenues this year are $5 million less than the debacle last year, which is more than reasonable given the erosion at the gate I just discussed, then the White Sox's revenues including that TV deal are less than they were in 2012 without it based on the Forbes-reported revenue numbers. Forbes showed White Sox revenues dropping by about $15 million in 2012-2013 and the team losing money in 2013. $20 million would basically just plug that gap if everything else stayed constant. Everything else has not stayed constant. Not to mention their expenses have gone up a lot this year with the much higher amateur spending.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 28, 2014 -> 10:09 AM) Because Ukraine has a population 1.5x the size of Iraq and holding Iraq was not exactly easy for a much more advanced military? And that whole Afghanistan thing kind of weights like Vietnam does here.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 28, 2014 -> 10:06 AM) Average ticket price dropped dramatically before 2013 when ticket prices were lowered & was pretty steady this year. 1000 tickets a game *26.05/ticket * 81 regular season games is $2 million in revenue just with that. Then add in all the other things not being paid for, and you're at $3 million+ drop in gate revenues so far this year, and that is likely to accelerate in September. Advertising in the big one. For example... Remember the Jim Beam club? Lots of advertising has dropped as the ratings and team have fallen off.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Aug 28, 2014 -> 10:04 AM) One dollar. But seriously, I'm sure Hahn has done his due diligence on Stanton. The Sox might have enough to get him, now that Rodon is in the picture, but the cost would be astronomical. Every year closer he gets to that quarter of a billion dollar contract is going to knock a lot of his trade value down.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Aug 28, 2014 -> 09:59 AM) Has his stuff diminished or is he just a head case at the moment? If the arm is still there I'm all for giving him a chance on the cheap. Fastball average velocity by year 2010 95.5 2011 95.2 2012 94.7 2013 94.6 2014 93.8 Change up has gone from 86.7 to 86.6 over the same time frame. Not good when the difference between your fastball and change is getting smaller.

Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeymanCBS 1h brewers won the claim on morneau but couldnt make a deal, so he stays in colorado. http://cbsprt.co/VPJVPo

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 28, 2014 -> 09:53 AM) More seriously I wonder what the line for NATO intervention might be. And I wonder what Putin's desired end-game is here. I am guessing the line is something like nuking Ukraine. IE, NATO isn't going to fight against Russia for pretty much any reason.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Aug 28, 2014 -> 09:30 AM) R.A. Dickey was placed on waivers. He would make sense in that his salary isn't going to kill you ($12M followed by a $12M option) he would be a solid inning eating RHP that could hold down a spot in rotation until either Beck, Danish, or Johnson are ready to contribute at the ML level. He hasn't been great in Toronto, but it would be one less gap to fill in the offseason. He will get claimed, I am sure.