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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 20, 2014 -> 08:42 AM) I hope Abattacola has something to tweet about Ditka or is he ascared? This moment is taylor-made for the Score. This has full phone lines written all over it.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 20, 2014 -> 08:11 AM) The NFL is asking music acts to pay the NFL to play at the Superbowl. http://www.avclub.com/article/coldplay-rih...play-sup-208329 Wow.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 20, 2014 -> 09:24 AM) I dont even think the White Sox current ownership structure would interest Cuban. Reinsdorf is majority owner, but it isnt like he owns 49 percent. I would think Cuban would want a big stake in ownership From what I understand JR is probably a majority owner by now. There have been stories about him buying up the minority owners as they have wanted to sell. For some reason I have it in my head that one estimate was as high as 80% ownership. Can anyone else verify/remember that?

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 20, 2014 -> 08:37 AM) Jon Garland's optimistic ranking was also based on the projections that his stuff would continue to improve and he'd start throwing a power sinker and turn into a ground ball and strike out machine, ala Kevin Brown. He never got to that point. If Beck comes up and is a league average pitcher, I'll be quite happy. If you get a league average pitcher out of Beck, you have won his draft pick.

QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Aug 20, 2014 -> 09:01 AM) Well when JR passes we may be faced with this situation (told his sons to sell Sox but not Bulls), I have this thought that maybe Mark Cuban will buy them but I don't know, I'll always be a fan, they can play in a sandlot in Mumbai and I'd still be a diehard, I've only seen them about a handful of times in person (all away, I live on the East Coast) but I follow each and every game I see no scenario underwhich MLB lets Mark Cuban buy a baseball team.

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Aug 20, 2014 -> 08:33 AM) His bat doesn't even have to be that great to be a valuable 4th outfielder. With his defense, ff he can hit .220-.230 he would be a good 4th OF. He provides solid pop from the left side and would probably steal 20-25 bases if he played full time. If he could ever hit over .250 with a strikeout rate around 25% or less he'd even have a case to be a starter somewhere. He can catch the ball and be a competent fill in a couple of days a week. He is a great 4th/5th OF. Honestly I think we see NewLF/Eaton/Garcia/Sierra/Danks as our OF roster next year.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Aug 19, 2014 -> 09:40 PM) Beckham did look bad there, really overmatched, bad swings, late on everything. After he gets non-tendered, I bet he won't get a big league contract offer from anyone, probably signing a minor league deal. lol.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Aug 19, 2014 -> 09:06 PM) I agree slightly above average defense, terrible offense, which makes him below average. I just can't understand why such a limited upside player is getting playing time, when this org should be working on the future. It's like the Sox want another Dewayne Wise on this team. I hope the clowning stops soon. Who else should they be starting in CF? The guy who said he can't play CF, or the guy hitting .160?

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Aug 19, 2014 -> 05:14 PM) I personally would uphold my acceptance to the smaller company. Not only for some personal honor but also because that other company seems like a mess. Yep. This. You can learn a lot from a company in how their HR process works.

Seeing the progression of how Rodon is being handled, I am going to say there is a near zero chance that the White Sox spend 9 figures, or probably even 8, on a starting pitcher contract this winter.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 19, 2014 -> 05:12 PM) LaRussa is getting his Bobblehead Night soon at US Cellular, so not 100%. Except Hawk has already admitted to what a gigantic mistake that was.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 19, 2014 -> 05:02 PM) If I were hawk, I would seriously nominate B&B and Abbattacola. If they decline, they are huge b****es. And I think they are too proud to accept He should nominate everyone who he has outlasted as a critic. Jay Mariotti, Joe Cowley, etc. It is funny, they all took on Hawk, and he has outlasted them all.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 19, 2014 -> 05:02 PM) If I were hawk, I would seriously nominate B&B and Abbattacola. If they decline, they are huge b****es. And I think they are too proud to accept He should nominate everyone who he has outlasted as a critic. Jay Mariotti, Joe Cowley, etc. It is funny, they all took on Hawk, and he has outlasted them all.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Aug 19, 2014 -> 04:54 PM) And it was 3.16 the year before too. FIP can predict ERA fairly well as long as talent-level stays constant. In this case, Lindstrom's talent level has fallen dramatically. Judging by his huge velocity drop, injury seems to be the clear front runner for me. He hasn't been right all year.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 19, 2014 -> 04:33 PM) you've been provided with multiple sources And therein lies the problem. Anyone can literally find a source that will back up any version of events that happened over the past week or so. There has been pretty much zero consistency in reporting. The only rule seems to have been that the earlier the report was made, the less accurate it was.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Aug 19, 2014 -> 04:47 PM) FIP and WHIP are almost completely independent stats. FIP weights home runs, walks, and strike outs. WHIP only takes walks and hits into account. One says a hit is all the pitcher's fault while another says only hits that are home runs are the pitcher's fault (and they really screw up his FIP). FIP cannot predict WHIP because it's not what it's trying to predict. It's supposed to project ERA, which it does a decent job of doing. His 2013 FIP was 3.16, or his best since 2007.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Aug 19, 2014 -> 04:06 PM) In some areas MLB tickets are up their with the NFL and NBA. That casual fan will opt for the latter. In Chicago that is no where close to the case for the White Sox. They are BY FAR the cheapest major league sport to attend in Chicago.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Aug 19, 2014 -> 03:14 PM) By the way, I just want to bring this back up. I still would argue that anyone that defends Hahn and the design of this bullpen would be mistaken. This pen was set-up to be a disaster from the beginning of the season. I think the goal, from Hahn's perspective, was that some of the young guys would have taken steps forward and given him some cost controlled pieces to utilize in the future when the team was more capable and ready to contend. This pen would have been atrocious from the start. Lindstrom, while a decent middle of the pen guy, is not a closer or set-up guy and that is what the Sox wanted him to be. Yes, Nate's injury has hurt, but this pen is bad because it consisted of by and large not very good relievers, and I think Hahn was okay with that cause he figured he'd be able to use the spots for developmental purposes. Problem is, very few guys who you could probably project to be quality relievers, have stepped up. Putnam has been a surprise but I don't think I'd expect him to keep doing this. Petricka is nice and I won't give up on Webb but that is literally it. Maybe we'll see a few guys emerge late but the farm system has completely failed to provide us with any quality relievers this year. Lindstrom still isn't healthy IMO. His velocity is WAY below last year. His fastball velocity is down 1.9 mph over last year. Even worse his change is only down .2, which means there is 2mph less difference between his fastball and change. His slider velco is also down 0.6mph He would have been a perfectly good setup guy if healthy, and probably as a fill in closer.

All of the posts over the previous ND incidents have been deleted and admin/mods are huddling over how to handle that stuff. Best advice right now for anyone else would be not to go there again.

Scott Merkin ‏@scottmerkin 1h Carlos Rodon starts tonight for Charlotte. He should get three starts for the Knights by Sept. 1 if he stays on current schedule

The White Sox are not being listed as a finalist http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/writer/jon-he...eal-coming-soon

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Aug 19, 2014 -> 01:53 PM) I saw a rumor of Adam Dunn to Seattle for Lucas Luetge (spelling). Sorry if that's already been posted. I don't think it is true. I think it is someone's idea for what should happen. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2166826...rce=twitter.com

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 19, 2014 -> 01:31 PM) This is my biggest concern with bringing De Aza back, but I also don't think he is a valueless player. That's the hardest part - at what point do you just say "we'll take the stuff you're offering" instead of getting absolutely nothing? I imagine these are the kinds of offers they have for Dunn and De Aza and it's just hard to accept those when your back isn't up against the wall. Come September 1st, I honestly do not expect either De Aza or Dunn to be on the White Sox roster. I really believe the Sox will find another OF, at that point it makes no sense to have De Aza or Viciedo on the roster as bench players making around $5 million when Jordan Danks can do it for $500k.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Aug 19, 2014 -> 01:23 PM) Sorry, mistyped. I don't think they are comfortable with ADA as the backup CF. I wouldn't be. They need someone on the roster who is a capable backup CF. He's not comfortable in CF, self-admittedly. I doubt the team wants him out there in anything but an emergency situation.