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If they were willing to include a roster player or two as a way to up the package and free up some roster space, we could be in business. A deal starting around Pages and/or Bobby Miller, and then back filling in with a guy like DePaula and others coudl be something to get the Sox attention.

Some awful contracts out there include Trevor Story, Patrick Corbin (though he is done at the end of 24), Javy Baez, Kris Bryant, and Anthony Rendon.

If they move Benny without any salary retention they have just over $30 million the books for 2025. Unless they plan on offering half of a billion dollars to Juan Soto, the idea that they need the cash needs to stop.

Yes.

Major failure and systemic holes in approach being exposed at the major league level, the specific skills of which the Sox have not been able to address in their own players.

But no one is going to grab those guys early because they aren't that good. They want real guys early.

Getz gets Nachos. Wait, the Sox are trading with the Braves????@?>!?

Those guys are total deadline deals. Teams spend the weeks before trying to get the guys they really want, and then when the fail, they are the fallbacks to get something. No one is going out to get a Tommy Pham or Paul DeJong as a primary target.

It wouldn't shock me if it still happens. It probably won't be as a starter, but as a long man, but pitching is always needed. It won't bring anything worthwhile back either.

He may not want another rebuild, but when you are winning 25% of your games, and have nothing in the pipeline, you are rebuilding.

He did it once and stated this circling of the drain.

Since you mention him, it is probably a decent time to mention two things. -His record without Tom Brady -The game really seemed to pass him by in those last few years.

All of the bats had flaws which the Sox struggle to fix. While we need bats, I am OK with making sure we get a player we know we can develop because you cannot miss on this pick.

Yes.

And no matter if you like the Sox ability to fix him, the Sox need superstar ceilings badly.

That is spectacular

Dodgers need to free 40/25 man slots and move guys the Sox wouldn't be interested in.

Getz: Hold on now...

You have Getz attention.

So about 2030...

Much like Michael Kopech, if they aren't willing to listen, isn't much you can do.

Look if we had $150 million in payroll and freeing up that money meant adding a player to a playoff contender, sure, it makes sense. But for a dumpster fire with no payroll to speak of? It is negligence.

Not to mention there is a large difference between awful and literally the worst ever, especially if you weren't actually trying to be bad.

How about the least playoff appearances for any of the Original franchises?