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QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ May 26, 2011 -> 12:33 PM) I think your sig was scarier when Dunn's eyes were black. It would be even scarier if it looped his 9th inning AB last night.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ May 27, 2011 -> 10:32 AM) He's not talking about Jackson versus Hudson. We're talking about Jackson vs. Humber. Its really apparent he is just looking to troll at this point.

QUOTE (iamshack @ May 27, 2011 -> 10:26 AM) No, I MADE THE ARGUMENT THAT HE HAS BEEN THE BEST STARTER. I never made the argument that he has to continue to be the best starter in order to remain in the rotation. Your argument is based in absolutely zero logic whatsoever. And you have no idea how it is circular to say that Humber is our best starter so we can't send him to the pen, but even if he isn't our best starter, you can't send him to the pen? That passes for logic? Yeah, ok.

QUOTE (Reddy @ May 26, 2011 -> 05:42 PM) answer me this: fair catch in football. what's the difference here? there should be a rule against blocking the plate. might suck when you lose a game like that, but it could save careers, and that's more important in the long run. You don't have to block the plate. If you aren't blocking the plate, you don't get steamrolled, so you can be protected.

QUOTE (iamshack @ May 27, 2011 -> 10:24 AM) Why the hell does he have to be the best starter? That is not the argument here. The point is that he isn't even close to being the worst starter, which is the guy that should go to the pen. By your logic, we should have never believed in Gavin Floyd. They have extremely similar histories and stuff. How can you be so quick to dismiss Humber when we have the history of Floyd sitting right here in our faces? That is the argument YOU JUST MADE. Good god, this is why I shouldn't argue with you. I am getting dizzy from the circles. Walking away now.

QUOTE (iamshack @ May 27, 2011 -> 10:17 AM) Well considering that Jackson is a FA after this year, what player are you more concerned with, in terms of his future with the ballclub? Jackson or Humber? I stated earlier the only way I could see putting Humber in the pen is to audition one of the other starters for a trade. Otherwise it is foolishness to be concerned about how Jackson might do in the pen in order to take your best starter out of the rotation. Phil Humber is not the Sox best starter. He has been the best so far this year, but he is not the best Sox starter. He also won't end the season as their best starter. Assuming that is foolish, as is assuming that it is OK to sacrifice games because Jackson doesn't adjust well to the pen.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 27, 2011 -> 10:12 AM) So would have Loiaza. The tough part is Humber is out best starter right now. Giving that alot of arguments are made on this board to forget about a players history and start looking at results now, its funny that with Humber that is exactly something that is being preached not to do. It would be asinine to take the best pitcher you have up to this point out of your rotation. Esteban was at least established as a major league starting pitcher when he got here. He also never did duplicate his success before or after being here. And I am the last one to fall into the immediate gratification group. I think history is important, and tend not to put as much faith into streaks as most do.

QUOTE (G&T @ May 27, 2011 -> 08:30 AM) Happy birthday! A Jim bday has to be an event! Thing of it as The Hangover

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 27, 2011 -> 10:00 AM) Sounds like a page-turner! Me at work dealing with exactly these regulations --->

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ May 27, 2011 -> 09:37 AM) He was third overall to boot. Yes, I think he will finish with better numbers than Edwin Jackson. Chris Shelton had one hot month in April as a former 33rd-round draft pick. Humber has now been going strong for two straight months as a former top-five MLB pick. He clearly has talent otherwise he wouldn't have been taken that high. And he was picked by the Mets who don't have any issues with signability, so he was worthy of being picked that high. He has six straight quality starts and has two road starts against top six offenses in the MLB during that stretch where has given up one run in 14.2 innings. You're kidding yourself if you think he is doing with smoke and mirrors. If he does regress in the next couple starts badly, then maybe you can move him to the pen. But you can't do it when he is on fire. Who knows maybe we found another Esteban Loaiza or maybe a top-three MLB pick is finally realizing his potential under one of the best pitching coaches in baseball? Jose Bautista was a 20th round pick. Putting aside the fantasy that Humber will have a better season than the Sox starters, here is my problem with putting Jackson into the pen over Humber. 3.5 BB/9 versus 2.0 BB/9n this year. Jackson goes through some crazy control issues. I'm not quite sure when you let him go all out in the pen with not worrying about a pitch count that it would get better. You can't have guys walking people coming out of the pen. If you are really convinced the Phil Humber is the next Gavin Floyd, you have to trade Jackson IMO. I like his stuff, but I am not sure the pen would work for him. Looking at his career, the year he spent mostly in the pen was the worst BB/9 of his career by far (6.2).

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 27, 2011 -> 09:45 AM) Study finds members of Congress consistently outperform the market Dems outperform Republicans significantly, but some Democrats have been trying to change the rules so there's less possibility of this happening. This would get me thrown into jail in all likelihood. For people in the industry, we have to be able to prove that we aren't breaking securities laws governing material non-public information. It doesn't surprise me that they outperform, as usually if you are going to be getting that far in life, you have to be a pretty sharp person, but at the same time, I doubt the rate of out performance is realistic. You should read the SEC/FINRA/SRO rules on the burden of information.

QUOTE (iamshack @ May 27, 2011 -> 09:35 AM) Maybe not that low, but there is absolutely nothing that says there is a huge correction coming, other than his past history, which honestly shouldn't concern any of us. His issue was never whether he had a good arm or good stuff. So other than his history and his unsustainable numbers, there is nothing to say he will regress. Ok. I probably should be done here.

QUOTE (iamshack @ May 27, 2011 -> 09:32 AM) We're 1/3 of the way through the season and it's not even really close! When you compare the upside of putting him in the pen versus the risk, it's not even a decision. We've seen Cooper dramatically change the careers of many pitchers that have come through here, whether it was Esteban Loaiza, Matt Thornton, Jose Contreras, or Gavin Floyd. Why the hell would you start questioning this now? What if we would have put Gavin in the bullpen in 2008 after 10 starts? This is pure lunacy... Which was the entire basis of my thinking that Humber could be decent this year. But expecting him to be Cy Young? No that would be lunacy.

QUOTE (iamshack @ May 21, 2011 -> 11:14 PM) Perhaps you guys could just have the meetup in the hospital! I'm sure she would totally understand. I guess we know who wears the G-string in that family.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ May 27, 2011 -> 09:15 AM) The guy is on fire. Why fix something that's not broken? It's not like he's been all smoke and mirrors and every out he gets is a hard hit line drive. He has a WHIP under 1.0, a H/9 of 6.4 and a K/9 of 5.2. Those are not sustainable numbers for Phil Humber.

QUOTE (iamshack @ May 27, 2011 -> 09:16 AM) Did you think Jose Bautista was going to turn into the best hitter in baseball last year? Should the Blue Jays have benched him? Humber, while he has not had a good MLB career, does have a plus curve, and he was a first round draft pick. He's not doing this with smoke and mirrors. You don't put him in the pen simply because he doesn't have the track record. I'm going with history here. Humber hasn't had a stretch anywhere like this since 2006, when he was at A+ and AA. If I am going to bet on performance, I am guessing that 99 times out of a 100, the guys with a history are going to outdo the guys who have never done anything remotely close to this before. For every Jose Batista out there, there are a ton of Chris Sheltons littering the landscape. Believe me, I was about the only one on this entire website who said that Humber could be serviceable this year, but expecting to outperform the starting 5 this year? Crazy.

Do people really think that Phil Humber will finish the season with better numbers than the rest of the starting 5? f***, I thought I was the anointed homer.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ May 26, 2011 -> 11:37 PM) Why'd the centerfielder have to get involved? Pitcher get tired or something? Trip and fall? I'm guessing he was backing up a pickle at second base.

QUOTE (ptatc @ May 26, 2011 -> 09:33 PM) Th9is has been a problem with the Sox since the early 80's. I remember the Sox just flailing away against soft tossing lefties like Scott McGregor and Mike Flanagan. You'll see from my previous posts that I often bring up Sox futility against lefties, especially soft tossers. And Greg Walker was the team then... Coincidence? I think not. The Sox are so awful they should have fired Walker 30 years ago!

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ May 27, 2011 -> 01:24 AM) http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bears/post...dream-come-true This makes me happy. I saw that in the Trib last week. Those are the players you really root for.

About all I have to say about this is go Mavs, I won't watch a second of the series, and fix the CBA quickly.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ May 26, 2011 -> 04:07 PM) Those days were pretty special. I remember how in one game Robin hit a grand slam homer to win the game and Frank was waiting at home plate and lifted him on his shoulders. The line from ESPN was Robin and his Merry Men are at it Again Off of Goose Gossage. Pre-2005 that was one of my all-time favorite baseball moments.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 26, 2011 -> 10:22 PM) Why does everyone hate Morel now that he's hitting? He's hitting .300 in May. Send him down, that's too good! FWIW, Juan Pierre is currently up to #14 in worst WAR, Morel is #16.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 26, 2011 -> 09:10 PM) Better? We were off on May 26, 1911, so yes.