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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 1, 2011 -> 07:37 AM) Because we have a lot more offdays in June, which means that those pitchers are going to go a full week between starts. What we have done for years hasn't worked in September. Maybe less starts and more time between them does do it? Who knows.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 1, 2011 -> 07:36 AM) Except for having the worst run support in the AL. He has also had the lowest expectations and pressure of anyone either.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ May 31, 2011 -> 10:59 PM) Didn't Loaiza pitch decently for a few years after that great season? I don't expect Humber to continue this forever, but I see no reason why he can't go on to have a few average seasons. And an average pitcher is nice to have. Depends on what you mean by "decent". 2003 21-9 2.70 era 1.113 WHIP 2004 10-7 5.70 era 1.574 WHIP 2005 12-10 3.77 era 1.300 WHIP 2006 11-9 4.86 era 1.416 WHIP after that he didnt' really pitch much in 2007 and 2008. He had maybe a decent year with Washington in 2005, but other than that was pretty bad after his Cy type season. All of his peripherals pretty much fell apart after 03 as well. His K's dropped, his hits went up, and walked either went up or leveled off.

QUOTE (iamshack @ May 31, 2011 -> 10:24 PM) See, I see him more as Gavin Floyd-lite but with a better mental makeup. No deer in the headlights bs. Its hard to say that yet. I want to see him get beat up, not have his curveball, have some really bad fielding behind him etc before I say that. I don't really remember his facing any real adversity this year to speak of.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ May 31, 2011 -> 08:51 PM) No, all the same rules apply, nothing changes for him. If he finishes the season with 2 years of service then he's ours for the next 4 years and can make $500K next year. There is absolutely no reason to think about locking him up. He's made 10 starts this season and is under team control for the next 4.5 years, there's plenty of time to let him sink or swim before committing to him. And yes, I worry about a starting pitcher with a 5.0 k/9, that's asking an awful lot of your defense. So the only way to sign him to anything is if it is team options only.

QUOTE (BearSox @ May 31, 2011 -> 10:16 PM) Are we watching the same guy? Plus curve, below average to average change, and below average fastball. However, his command has been solid, he changes speeds, and works fast. He's like a less polished, right handed Buehrle, except he has a plus pitch (but also a screw in his elbow). He could be a solid 3 or 4 guy. But I tend to think this is more of a hot streak/first time around the league than anything else. Would I trade him if someone in need like the Yankees offered something good? Yes. But I would have no problem letting him pitch while he's hot and hold onto him in the future as well to see what he is all about. Also, either I have bad eyes, or it looks to me that Humber's frame has changed quite a bit since Rice/TJS. He looks relatively skinny with not much in the legs. Not exactly a work horse frame (not to say he can't be a work horse). For the record, 91-93 is not "below average fastball".

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 31, 2011 -> 02:02 PM) Twenty-two runs tonight the next three days would be pretty fantastic.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 31, 2011 -> 09:25 AM) Not to mention the fact that Lester has been pretty terrible against the White Sox in his career. It's impossible to believe that they were expecting only 1 or 2 more runs would win the game. I GET the idea that acquiring a lead or being the first to score out of the gate sets the momentum for the team and builds confidence, but we're not talking the 2005, 2006 or even 2008 White Sox here. The interesting thing is that the more you read about KW and Hahn, the less you get the idea that philosophically they're in agreement with this "NL/small ball/Ozzie ball" label. And as much as we've been a team of sluggers since USCF opened, it has always been the pitching that delineated the eventual success of various seasons. One way or the other, you'd just like to see the front office, minor leagues and MLB coaching staff all on the same page. If we are to be a team of bunters/sacrificers/hit to the opposite field types, why isn't this being inculcated into our minor leaguers? When you think back to the likes of Borchard, Rowand, Crede, Josh Fields, Brian Anderson...none of them profile as those type of players. Why aren't they forced to learn those skills as soon as they're drafted, at the minor league level? In the old days, if you couldn't hit 20-30 homers per season, you simply HAD to do the other things well to stay in the big leagues. Omar Vizquel is a perfect example of this, he was a "plus plus" fielder, could steal a base, make contact, he did the "complementary" things we earlier saw with Iguchi in 2005/06. And yet we've had very few of these prospects in our system. Chris Getz comes to mind. Morel, to an extent. Maybe Sweeney. Jerry Owens, although he wasn't "raised" in our system for very long. And yet for each of them, their lack of power/OPS/SLG was often cited as the reason why they weren't good fits for our major league team...being "grindy" is only good for veteran players like Erstad and Kotsay, apparently. Then you look at the minor leaguers like Mitchell, Thompson, Viciedo, Danks, Flowers, etc. They're all "hit or strike out" types, with the possible exception of Viciedo and Mitchell as they mature. It's just very frustrating to watch players like Rios who SHOULD be able to contribute something offensively even if they're struggling and yet they've never learned how...some of the blame lies with the Blue Jays for spoiling/coddling both him and Wells, but it's been so ugly for Rios for much of his time here (yes, minus the first half of 2010...even Beckham has been pretty good 1/2 of the time, not 1/3rd.) At least Mitchell and Danks should be learning how to bunt right now.

QUOTE (iamshack @ May 31, 2011 -> 02:48 PM) The Dunn contract was not "reckless." People need to learn the meaning of words like reckless before they start throwing them around. I thought reckless meant "below market value"?

Francisco Liriano to the DL http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/43218664/ns/...ts-player_news/

QUOTE (T R U @ May 31, 2011 -> 11:00 AM) If you went to a movie like the Hangover II with any intentions of seeing stuff outside of grotesque humor and almost a copy of the first movie, you're a moron. They didn't make a second one to create some new story, they did it because the first one made a ton of money and they could make even more this time. Some of you need to learn how to just enjoy a movie.. zomg, too many dick jokes.. if you say you didn't laugh at all the whole movie, you're a f***ing liar and you have some agenda to be some hardass wanna be critic around here. And I mean movie critic not the sweet, sweet poster. The law of diminishing marginal returns does apply to dick jokes.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ May 31, 2011 -> 10:40 AM) He was walking away from the refs too. It'd be one thing if he was doing that in someone's face but the way that went down was ridiculous. Especially because of how many times Wade was literally in a refs face during that game.

This ought to be interesting...

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ May 31, 2011 -> 09:11 AM) What's sex? Get $200 and find out

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 31, 2011 -> 07:33 AM) I was B, but I did not fudge facts. She pulled the usual woman thing where she knew she was wrong and got all upset. We chose option D, bang and make up. But I'm still out my sunglasses. Consider it $200 for sex.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ May 27, 2011 -> 10:29 PM) Just as a way to grow money. I think those might be a 10k minimum.

QUOTE (FlaSoxxJim @ May 31, 2011 -> 08:40 AM) I'm sure this is old news but I just discovered (or rediscovered) The Hobbit is going to be released in two parts. The book was far shorter than any of the books in the Trilogy — why the heck does this have to be done in two parts. . . other than the obvious desire to make more money, I mean? I have become increasingly disinterested in this project starting with the soap opera about whether Jackson would or wouldn't get to direct. A shame. My biggest compliant with legendary books turned movie is they always have to leave out what I consider big parts. Hopefully that lessens that.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 31, 2011 -> 08:25 AM) If you don't understand the difference between how smart "The Hangover" was versus how bad "The Hangover: Part II" was, then your opinion in movies doesn't really matter. "The Hangover" was smart and people of all ages found it hilarious, while the sequel will undoubtedly be loved by males ages 14-23 (or those who never grew up) and a disappointment to the rest of the world that needs more than constant dick jokes to enjoy a movie. I laughed harder at this post than I did through most of the Hangover. True Story.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ May 31, 2011 -> 08:04 AM) he wants the max under the current CBA Which might be a totally different indictment of his character...

QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ May 31, 2011 -> 08:06 AM) I didn't go through the gamethread, but it seemed like Francona tried way too hard to give Lester a shot at getting a win. At the 127 pitch mark with the bases loaded in the 6th inning of a 3-3 tie and a right-hander ready in the bullpen, he let Lester pitch to Lexi. Didn't make a lot of sense. Especially because Alexei had been hitting Lester like a redheaded stepchild.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 31, 2011 -> 08:01 AM) At this point, a 4-6 stretch does start killing the Sox. We are running out of time to keep losing ground. That is regardless of what day it is.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 31, 2011 -> 07:48 AM) That was something, wasn't it? We got that game last night gift wrapped to us.

Psychic.

Paid day off, went golfing, worked in the yard, and BBQ'd.