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The only reason Sosa is here is because of the injury to Moncada. Lee is not starting nearly enough while sharing time with literally the worst player in baseball this year.

Yeah, you are missing the changes in era of pitching. James Baldwin with a 4.65 era was above average for an ERA+ of 108 Chris Flexen with a 5.13 era is 20% below average with an ERA+ of 80. Flexen's ERA of 4.97 for his career is an 83 ERA+, while Baldwins higher 5.01 ERA actually worked out to an ERA+ of 92.

This is absolutely not changing the subject, it is salvaging what you can out of a historically bad season. Besides it isn't like we have done this anyway and continue to run players out there who have no future, nor trade value, out there on a daily basis.

Trying to win today, at the expense of tomorrow, with a 120 loss team? Yeah, I am going to be mocking that for sure. Grinding through worthless players so as to block anyone who has control and needs on the job training, it an absolute mistake. As of today, this is about getting the most out of the players who are going to be here in 5 years, and not winning more games in 2024.

And large portions of this were from when you could unlimited spend in the draft, and you could unlimited spend in the international market, and you could unlimited spend in Japan, and you could unlimited spend on payroll with no negative impacts.

Also this... which would be 2030/2031

One more time just for emphasis, there is a big difference between being 100 losses bad, and 120 losses bad. One has happened once in 125 years. 91 teams have lost 100 or more games just since 1962. https://www.mlb.com/news/best-teams-following-100-loss-season also of note as to how far behind we would be at 100 losses...

Pretty sure your pool is just an amalgamation of all your individual pick draft slots added up. If we pick 10th, we get the 10th slot. I can't see them having pushed someone to the 10th pick, but still giving them the 1st slot money, otherwise it is kind of meaningless to push them down because they can just load up later.

Is a lot of employees? How does it compare to others?

He's probably not selling while he is alive.

Not mention if we are going to try to act like the Vaughn and Benny play is such a big hit to this squad, you have to also look at the fact Garrett Crochet pitching like Cy Young and Fedde pitching like a #2 was even more unexpected to the upside. If we are going to talk about surprises with that team, we have had one of the best 1/2 punches in baseball and still are historically bad. I promise you no one planned for that either.

Been there, done that.

Literally last in baseball defensively. Pretty sure that isn't Eloy's fault.

It's not at all like that. On one hand you have 3 players who in their major league careers have missed 40 to 50% of their teams game played on an annual basis. On the other hand you have a national average of 12 deaths per 100,000 people or something with a 0.012% chance of happening in a given year to any one person.

Going to be that way for a while too.

That is quite literally his job. It is his job to know his roster and his players. If he didn't plan for the fact that all three of these players AVERAGE missing between 40 and 50% of every single major league season they have played into how to build this team, he doesn't deserve his job. That is 100% a part of assessing what any season will look like when you have these players on your roster. When the very thing that always happens, actually happens, you don't get to say darn it happened, and now that's why we are so bad. That is ridiculous.

I have seen mention of the Sox 1970 season more than few times this year.

Yeah, you don't get to claim that he "knew", yet use it as an excuse for failure. Competitive teams plan around these things. The Dodgers are loaded with half season players, but they are so deep they can work around it. What you are describing is building your house in a uninsurable hurricane zone, but then blaming the hurricane for tearing your house down, even though you knew full well it would happen. If your plan is building sand castles on the beach, you are planning for failure.

Again if Chris Getz didn't know that the three guys that typically miss half of a season were going to get hurt, and could all be hurt at the same, he shouldn't be a major league GM. You get push back over pushing some bizarre narrative over shutouts that doesn't actually change anything of the situation on the ground, which is that this is a historically bad team. The attempt to connect it to markers of how bad this season is as if people are enjoying this mess is exactly why you get push back for trying to tell people how they should feel about this season. Fans are upset and justifiably so. I am not sure why you take that so personally that you feel the need to personally attack the people who disagree with you on it, but it is what it is. And until the situation on the ground materially improves, this is the way Sox fans are going to be.

The Sox were not a couple of players away from anything except 100 losses instead of 120. This roster was trash from day 1.

The funny thing is attendance will be down thousands per game again next year, yet they may well have their most profitable year ever.