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I'm not McFly.

So 26 posts and no ex-wife jokes to do with arsenic based lifeforms? For shame Soxtalk, for shame.

Good idea, should we start with the Filibuster?

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 01:20 PM) @ChiTribRogers - Reports are that #Braves will pay $4 m of Linebrink's $5.5 m salary. That's a great deal for #ChiSox -- Linebrink for Pierzynski & Cofield. Yep. Best way of putting it.

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 12:59 PM) A Major Leauge source said the #Braves will receive $1.5 million from the White Sox to help account for Linebrink's $5.5 mil. salary. According to @mlbbowman [seal of approval]

Even so, we are admins, so that means even less standards.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 10:43 AM) Call it whatever you want. Gigantic companies that f***ed up the country royally for a decade probably received zero penalty. That's just not right. We do it all of the time when it is the Federal Government...

QUOTE (SoIL @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 11:24 AM) Looked up Santo's lifetime stats, .277 BA, 342 HR, 1331 RBI, .954 FLD%, ROY, 9 time all star & 5 time GG. I'd certainly take that for a career. During the era he played in, those are damned impressive numbers.

Yeah, Joe Cowley was all over this one! Oh wait, he missed out again. Anyways, this is a great deal providing that the money is something like half or less of Line's salary. I don't really care who we got back honestly.

chisoxfn is the owner. We have no standards

Anyone else check out Decoded on History?

A bribe might work

Yeah, I would imagine they end up as the usual 10ish seed

I think the Sox will make a quick move on someone here.

QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 08:56 AM) May I make a suggestion? How about SoxTalk offers a yearly award called the "Oney Award" and we nominate Cowley for the inaugural one? The Oney Award would be a way to recognize a special kind of idiot with special powers of idiocy that are so strongly idiotic that they resemble the character of Oney Guillen. If this sounds odd, let me explain: Oney happened to be born into a situation where he was allowed in an MLB clubhouse, given work as a translator, and given free reign to travel with the team and party his ass off with the players. Beyond that he was given a minor league contract and a bulls*** promotion through the system that rewarded him for his last name, and then on top of that he was given training for a job as a scout and put to work for one of the most loyal organizations in sports - the kind of organization BTW that keeps you around forever and hands you a paycheck for more or less no reason at all. Oney is such a god damned idiot however that he s***-talked his way out of multiple freebie paychecks and dream jobs and basically blacklisted himself from the entire world of sports. I feel this is award-worthy, and I feel furthermore that if an award existed to recognize such massive acts of idiocy in the field of White Sox baseball, it should be Oney's puppy-eyed life partner Joey who is first to be nominated. Just an idea. I love it. If there ever was a Soxtalk award that was needed, this is it.

QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 08:40 AM) IIRC, Rizzo confirmed it was Viciedo they wanted, but KW said he wasn't available. This was on B&B the week after the deadline. That's right it was Flowers we offered.

QUOTE (klaus kinski @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 08:31 AM) I totally agree-I saw his entire playing career and he was one of the dominant 3B of his era-that's all you can be and that gets you in the Hall of Fame. To me, this is my #1 standard for the HOF. I know people like to compare guys across different eras, but you can't do that effectively. If you were to take pitchers from this generation, and compare them to guys in the 60's no guy of the 90's/00's would make it. The opposite would be true of hitters. It is all about a players relative level of dominance during their playing time.

QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 07:33 AM) Wow, the idea of Viciedo for Bell would really be going for it. I'd hate to trade that kind of talent for a closer. Since he's arb-eligible anyway and we have to pay him I'd rather pay Putz. Then, if we're going to trade Dayan, either target a young starter with top-3 ability or go after a dynamic young reliever with legit closing potential. Dayan has serious talent and he should fetch someone who has real potential and will be under control cheaply for a while. BTW during the whole Dunn/Rizzo/Kenny/Jackson s*** over the deadline, when Rizzo said he just needed "one player" to complete that deal, I think (just my guess) he was talking about Dayan. I'm sure he knew he couldn't get Gordon and that was probably just the starting point. I anticipate that Dayan's value around the league is actually quite a bit higher than it is on this board or in the eyes of some of the publications. The dude can flat out murder the baseball and he makes contact with it a lot. And he's really young, too - just 22 next season. The Sox supposedly offered Dayan. The Nats wanted Gordo.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 09:43 PM) I'd be shocked if there was no correlation between the report of the Blue Jays making him an offer and him signing with the Sox a few hours later. This is probably exactly what he was getting offered, or perhaps slightly higher. I'm guessing the laugh had to do with the fact he had an agreement already worked out with the White Sox, and the rumor was laughable garbage at best.

#1, Great work again by Joe Cowley. Too bad reporters don't have an OPS for how accurate their reports are, or Mark Kotsay would be LMAO at you. #2 To those who wondered why we didn't offer arbitration, we got AJ for two years, for pretty close what arbit would have cost for one year.

QUOTE (chunk23 @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 02:56 AM) Just realized he's a type A, no thank you. We have already lost our #1 pick with Dunn coming in.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 07:19 AM) Your color commentary will be missed by many. And I'll never forget that call where what's-his-name dropped an easy fly ball in the outfield during the stretch run. OH NO!!!!!! Brant Brown. And RIP, to a guy who should be a Hall of Fame 3B

QUOTE (knightni @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 09:06 PM) KW and Oz can be harsh. There are a lot of guys who have left the Sox on bad terms. Which is exactly why I think a guy with a much smaller stature with the White Sox has no chance of coming back here.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 08:55 PM) Who have the Sox given large contracts to even though there were comparable players on the FA market for substantially less, just because of Sox loyalty? I wouldn't be surprised if it has happened but I'm curious which previous situation is really anything like this one. I was referring to the Sox expanding the payroll, but only for a one player move. The Peavy deal was a special exemption granted by JR, which only applied to the Peavy trade. Kenny didn't have the authority to go out and spend it on anyone else.