southsider2k5

QUOTE (Cali @ Aug 18, 2010 -> 10:14 AM) How is e-mail too slow? What's the alternative? Its Twitter old man.

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Aug 18, 2010 -> 09:53 AM) Our retaliation should be beating the living s*** out of them on the scoreboard nothing more, nothing less. I really felt like it was the play at home by Young that led the Sox to come back last night. They looked better in the last couple of innings than they had since early in that game.

QUOTE (mreye @ Aug 18, 2010 -> 09:41 AM) I read this story yesterday and somehow knew you were going to post it. I love the Beloit Survey. I look forward to it every year.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Aug 17, 2010 -> 12:34 PM) I think his overall plan is good, but it requires also revamping Fannie and Freddie to be operationally solid in order to work. I also still think that one of the best stimulus ideas they could have implemented was buying property outright. They could still attempt that - some localities are doing it anyway. The biggest problem with the refi scam is that you set up an 80's S&L collapse when interest rates recover. You can't be making 3% on your mortgages when you are paying 6% on your savings.

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Aug 17, 2010 -> 05:05 PM) yep. should have waited to bust him. The Tribune blew that...

BTW, if you want a good laugh, put Blago into Google news and click latest. Do not pause, let it scroll. The Twitter posts are hilarious.

Guilty only of lying to the FBI, hung jury on 23 other counts.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 14, 2010 -> 11:13 AM) Courtesy of Cracked.com... Animaniacs was a kids' show kind of but not really. This is about the most blatant dirty joke I've ever seen in a cartoon that wasn't intentionally (ostensibly anyway) intended for grown-ups. The Animaniacs were my all-time favorite cartoon. the innuendo was awesome. I have the box sets on DVD even.

http://www.beloit.edu/mindset/2014.php

QUOTE (AWhiteSoxinNJ @ Aug 16, 2010 -> 07:41 PM) It was an AL team that claimed Luke Scott but they NL teams didn't get the name of the team that claimed him. It's only the big market teams doing to blocking and not the small market bottom feeders according to my source with the Phils. Small market teams are crying poor. QUOTE (iamshack @ Aug 16, 2010 -> 07:45 PM) I know for a fact that some small market teams have claimed some guys you would not expect them to have claimed... There is more money out there than you think. I want hear some teams and names.

QUOTE (RME JICO @ Aug 14, 2010 -> 07:01 AM) Do the 2001 White Sox really have any relevance to how the 2010 White Sox will perform against the Twins this year? In a way, I could see it. The mental side of getting your asses kicked in pretty much every meaningful series against a team for a decade sure seems to have an effect on them.

Ok. So now lets see manditory health care.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Aug 13, 2010 -> 04:07 PM) Im going to disagree with you here. As I understand it, SSI is paid in at a flat rate, up to an annual max (hovering somewhere around the 100k income mark, last I checked). Further, the benefit payout schedule is based on how much is paid in, so it slides on the same sort of scale. Therefore, this is really not an issue. There are all sorts of other services that WILL have problems due to this - SS is not one of them. But there is a minimum. For example, people who have mental illness and cant' take of themselves don't pay a dime in and draw a lifetime of benefits. There is a minimum benefit that gets paid no matter how much is paid in. If you grant amnesty, there are going to be people who will be eligible to draw SSI, who may never have paid in because of their status as an illegal.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Aug 13, 2010 -> 03:56 PM) From what I understand Manny does not have a typical contract. The Dodgers structured that deal to pay Manny deferred money over the next 2-3 years. With these terms, I find it highly unlikely that anyone would claim him. He would just pass through and then go to whoever works out a deal with Los Angeles. Again, I could be wrong here but I was always under the assumption that because of the deferred money, he'd clear. If it was stated in the contract that the money was to already be set aside, the new team wouldn't have to pay any of the deferred money. From the sounds of the reports on his contract, that should be the case here. Reports have been that he is only owed his six million dollars or so for this season.

QUOTE (mmmmmbeeer @ Aug 13, 2010 -> 04:02 PM) To take that even a step further, I don't even see it as retaliation I see it as setting a tone. It was no accident that the Twins hit our batters 4 times....just as it was no accident when Torii Hunter blasted the s*** out of AJ at homeplate a couple of seasons ago. Gardenhire does these things to make sure his team is the alpha male in the relationship....it's high time Ozzie quits sititng back complimenting the Twins and instead takes a page out of Gardy's book and has his guys do some tone-setting of their own. Start a brawl! Hit a couple batters! Annihilate a fielder on a slide! Do something to remind the Twins that they're in your park and you're in charge. Yes, I was very disappointed by that Twins series Actually that isn't true. two of those HBPs were guys getting hit on the foot by sliders in pitchers counts. That is the very definition of accident.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 13, 2010 -> 03:31 PM) Actually a number of illegal immigrants pay into the system now, tot he tune of $7-$8 billion a year. However, the key point there is...2k5's argument is that if we were to legalize current illegal immigrants through any fashion, Social Security costs would go up. The reality is...yes costs go up, but so do incomes, and the benefit of cutting the retirees/workers ratio winds up winning. Thanks in part to the Reagan amnesty and in part to the fact that crossing the border as a 65 year old and then working hard labor is pretty difficult...the current crop of illegal immigrants isn't exactly an elderly bunch. Except that the lowest rungs aren't going to pay in enough to cover the costs for their benefits.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 13, 2010 -> 04:02 PM) You don't have to make people citizens immediately to set up a legal means to fill the demand for temporary and migrant workers. A decent number of people who come here for jobs would probably prefer to remain Mexican citizens if given the choice. So no amnesty? I can't handle that.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Aug 13, 2010 -> 03:51 PM) Only if warnings are issued. And great, so let Linebrink or Bobby nail someone. My point is just that for the amount of times we get hit, we really don't retaliate for it. It seemed like Ozzie used to call for guys getting hit in the past, but no longer. Just an observation. That isn't necesarily true. Guys can get ejected for throwing at someone without a warning. It doesn't have to come if the ump feels it was really egregious.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 13, 2010 -> 02:25 PM) Ah there's the rub...the ideal Republican workforce...live on $6 an hour, no health benefits, everyone is daily/temporary help, and seasonal migrations based on the growing season. Sure I have a house in Florida that I can't sell because the mortgage is worth 27% more than the house, but hey, standing outside a home depot in California sounds like a stellar idea. You are right though, you don't have to have roundups and detentions to stop illegal immigration. You just have to stop pretending you can stop it and come up with a legal means. The reason that wages are depressed? Illegal immigration allowing people to pay undermarket prices for labor. We have to stop pretending that real fines and consequences for illegal immigration and hiring wouldn't fix the problem. Fine employers $50,000 for each violation. If you are caught in the country illegally, it is a felony, and you become ineligible for citizenship. Those two things alone would fix a lot of the problems, along with my program for actually hiring foreign workers in their country of origin through the embassies, and then making the judgments based on conditions on the ground there, and what we actually need here.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 13, 2010 -> 02:20 PM) 2-3 of which kept playing DH too. At the same time?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 13, 2010 -> 02:19 PM) And you get to pretend that when you open up jobs by sending people away...no one comes back in to take that spot. Basically, you get to pretend that there is no such thing as supply and demand. In that case...hooray, deportation is free! Do I get to pretend we have an official unemployment rate of nearly 10%, and that people could actually use those jobs in this country? As has been said before, you don't have to have the Democrats best dream of round ups and detentions to stop illegal immigration.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 13, 2010 -> 02:17 PM) Well, lack of offense, including from the DH spot, was a big reason for our slump early in the season. You're right there's plenty of reasons. That doesn't mean we should ignore them all. The whole offense outside of one or two guys was horrible for the first couple months of the season. There was a point where we had more guys under .200 than over in our normal starting line up IIRC.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 13, 2010 -> 02:10 PM) So we let teams hit our batters or ram over our catcher whenever they feel like it and lose the game. That's got to be great for team morale. Oh and then have your skipper shower that opponent with compliments. What happened to all of that stuff being make believe? I thought players weren't supposed to get bad feelings by what the organization did and said, or at least that is what I was told during the trade deadline when Ozzie said we didn't need anyone else, and the basic opinion was that he should just say that we need another bat.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 13, 2010 -> 02:06 PM) I think the number for arresting and deporting them is in the trillions (I explained the logic behind that a page or two ago), and you haven't given a single actual number this entire thread despite repeated prodding from me or Rex. So yes. Either way, it's expensive, and it's a cost that only exists because we continue to pretend that the jobs will magically vanish if we arrest all the people who want to work there. There is plenty of information there you chose to ignore. There is even a basic breakdown of social security a few posts back. There are very basic facts about the tax code and where people fall into it. There is also the fact that we don't have to arrest and deport everyone like you keep pretending.