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QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ May 5, 2010 -> 03:23 PM) To be fair though, you also wouldn't have those 15 million consumers in the economy - buying products and paying sales taxes. So while some costs would undoubtedly shrink, so would some business and government revenues. Sure, more money would actually stay in the country. IIRC Mexico's second biggest money maker behind petroleum is people sending dollars back to Mexico from the US. I think it was something like $20 billion a year. I'll bet that could generate a few jobs here too.

QUOTE (Tex @ May 5, 2010 -> 03:12 PM) How many unemployed people do you know who are willing to work seasonal jobs for low wages? I don't know when racism became OK here, but clearly not all illegals are fruit pickers. This doesn't happen just in the crop belt, or there wouldn't be illegals here in Michigan City.

QUOTE (Tex @ May 5, 2010 -> 03:10 PM) If there were enough willing citizens to take those jobs, we would still have the same problem. The lowest income tax brackets have negative rates. From a financial stand point illegals who do not have a social security number are the best deal. They consume less of those services than a citizen. ALso, a citizen is not likely to move to Mexico but a Mexican national is. THat is why we have turned our heads since Reagan. No we wouldn't, because we wouldn't have the extra 15 million or so people here.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 5, 2010 -> 03:04 PM) Because when an illegal immigrant gets sick, no one has to pay. And if they aren't here, we don't at all. Not to mention in a time when there is 10% unemployment in this country, it might actually free up some jobs, and increase some wages for people.

QUOTE (Tex @ May 5, 2010 -> 02:06 PM) Than I am saying conservatives have a problem with a million other things that cost money, why don't they care now? Which do you think will cost more, a one time fine to an employer, or a lifetime of social services?

QUOTE (soxfan-kwman @ May 5, 2010 -> 02:00 PM) he got a couple of walks last night & a nice hit later in the game last night but Beckham is hitting different...Beckham has widened his natural stance & swing. I'm not saying Greg Walker is to blame, but someone should tell him to start with his feet closer together. Watch tonight, he takes a practice cut with his regular swing & then he moves into the batters box with his legs bent & almost pigeon toed. Anyone else notice? A wider base makes for less movement in a swing. The problem he has right now is excess movement. It makes sense to me.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 5, 2010 -> 02:00 PM) I'll grant you that, they definitely need to turn it around. Just not hopeless yet. IIRC the Yankees made up a 6 or 7 game deficit in about a two week plus stretch against the Red Sox in the late 70's.

Konerko

QUOTE (Brian @ May 5, 2010 -> 01:43 PM) A source tells Mike Salk of 710 ESPN in Seattle that Milton Bradley left the team in the middle of Tuesday's game against the Rays. Bradley was frustrated after striking out looking with the bases loaded in the bottom of the sixth inning. He yelled at the umpire from the bench until Mariners manager Don Wakamatsu warned him to settle down. Just minutes later Bradley reportedly told Wakamatsu, "I'm packing my stuff. I'm out of here." Mariners General Manager Jack Zduriencik didn't address the matter specifically on Wednesday, other than to say something that happens between the manager and his players should be handled internally. We're guessing that Wakamatsu might not have to worry about Bradley much longer. Now they can suspend him without pay instead of cutting him outright.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 5, 2010 -> 01:37 PM) So, your argument then is that since this circumstance already exists, the only logical solution is to fully federalize health care. I'm game. We can do the same thing with immigration enforcement too! No I am saying liberals don't have a problem with a million other things that cost companies money, why do they care now?

QUOTE (Middle Buffalo @ May 5, 2010 -> 01:44 PM) The cost of universal health care is the main argument against it, as I understand. Are these new immigration controls going to be cost free? How do we pay for it? Why would we trust the government to run this, when we don't think they can operate healthcare? Local law enforcement is broke throughout the country. The federal government is deeply in debt. Won't we have to raise taxes to fund this new immigration law? That's where the fine for committing an already illegal act comes in. And don't worry, they will screw it up. Remember the last amnesty was supposed to fix things too.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 5, 2010 -> 01:18 PM) I don't follow. With them being forced to cover people in health care, they won't want to risk their policy costs by hiring high risk people, such as people with diseases, or women who have this nasty habit of getting pregnant.

QUOTE (scenario @ May 5, 2010 -> 12:52 PM) So.... what does this have to do with the topic of the thread... that you started? Hijacking your own thread (about Sox minor leaguers... in a minor league forum no less) to talk about the Twins... again? I gotta say, in all of the years I have been on Soxtalk, I don't think I have ever seen anyone hi-jack their own thread... after one reply. Bravo.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxfan1986 @ May 5, 2010 -> 12:23 PM) My biggest problem with the NBA playoffs is there are just way too many teams that make it. Realistically, how many teams in the playoffs have a legitimate shot at winning the title? three? I think the No. 8 seed has upset the No. 1 like three times in history, and one of those times was the lockout year in 1999. The first round is a complete waste of time. And it is the thing that makes pretty much any other post-season event more interesting... NCAA hoops, baseball, hockey, football etc.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 5, 2010 -> 12:47 PM) This specifically discourages hiring immigrants and people who might "seem" foreign out of fear of large fines if they end up being here illegally and the government feels you didn't do your due-dilligence. It's also foisting the responsibility of immigration control onto businesses and then fining them if they don't do it right. It's just something to consider--I really don't know what a good solution is. So we should cancel the health care bill then?

So why is this "giant pain in the ass" so much worse than any of the others that we require as a government, or want to see passed?

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ May 5, 2010 -> 08:27 AM) Another smart man joins me. Ha, ha. Vegans are earbiters.

The racists are even seeking Tea Party support... http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/05/us/polit...cks.html?src=me

Mary Landrieu still believes in BP, or at least enough to not give donations back to them... http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard...n-contributions

QUOTE (mreye @ May 5, 2010 -> 09:37 AM) I would move to Michigan City, have a couple kids and work at the local radio station. I can't even come back to that one.

QUOTE (mr_genius @ May 5, 2010 -> 11:32 AM) http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0510/36783.html The funny thing is that it was the same thing with Goldman Sachs.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ May 5, 2010 -> 10:21 AM) Exactly. The NBA is only a small step below the WWE now as far as I'm concerned between the Donaghy thing and just how blatant the officiating is favoring the home team and the superstars. I've lost a lot of my taste for that league in recent years. Not to mention the completely inferior product they put on the courts every night.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ May 5, 2010 -> 09:36 AM) I take it you weren't applying for a job to pick lettuce? Nice stereotype.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 5, 2010 -> 09:31 AM) Really, if Konerko puts up 35 HR this season, you couldn't see the Sox risking him accepting a 1 year, $12 million deal? We have no idea what Konerko would ask for. He could ask for $15 million or more in an arbitration hearing. All he has to do is make the case that his season was fractionally under what a first baseman like Mark Texeira to get it.

Dolsi started last night? Is that an emergency thing, or something new?