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QUOTE(qwerty @ Feb 23, 2005 -> 02:50 PM) Don't think you can call him that. When i think of pass first guards i think of brevin knight, t.j. ford, etc. He leads the team in shots per game which is a joke. Not saying it is his fault he is just doing what he is told to do i assume. But deng, curry, gordon, pike, whoever all need to start taking some shots away from him. No doubt someone else needs to shoot. The problem is the whole league knows he can't even hit wide open jumpers so they double off of him onto the legit scorers. He gets so many wide open looks, plus he plays way more minutes than anyone else, so he ends up leading the team in shots.

"I wonder if he is thinking what I am thinking? Meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow..."

QUOTE(qwerty @ Feb 23, 2005 -> 02:26 PM) Hinrich is known as being one of the best perimeter defenders in the nba. Also, hinrich takes much better shots than gordon? Whenever he drives he just throws the ball up at the rim hoping it goes in. Gordon on the other hand has a clue of where the rim is. Gordon has had a few questionable shots but i am willing to say he takes better shots ( not forcing anything). The only time Hinrich throws up s***, is at the end of a shot clock, because he most likely has the ball. Gordon on the other hand can throw up some crazy s***, and that's usually what ends him up on the bench. Heck there were a couple of shots in OT that we nuts. One he didn't even manage to hit rim on. Hinrich is very much a pass first, shoot second kind of guy. And he is definately not a guard who can create his own shot. Most of his shots come from the perimeter on kickouts from the post, and most of the time he can't even hit those looks.

Boy that is one of those "how come I didn't think of that" ideas. Hopefully that could cut down on Gapers.

I'm not a big Hinrich fan, so you won't get much arguement out of me there. The one thing he does well is distribute the ball. But he plays OK defense, his big problem being he gets caught a step behind and has to take flops to try to draw calls. As a shooter, he takes much better shots than Gordon does (he doesn't force anything) but he just is an awful shooter.

QUOTE(AnthraxFan93 @ Feb 23, 2005 -> 02:00 PM) SouthSide.. Going by those numbers that should leave us anther 30+mil to spend, yet we get told that our payroll is set there.. this is why I b**** we could have afforded better players then Dye and Hermanson Im not saying spend all 30.mil I be happy if we could have spent 15 more on getting some better kids in here. Not even close. It is saying there are $51 million in expenses related to running this major league baseball team that aren't directly related to the players. It is pretty clear that there wasn't a $50 million profit made, there was $13 million. It is right there in black and white under "operating income" of $12.8 million with the explanation of operating income as "(4) Earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization. " There was no extra $30 million. It went to running the team. There are a myriad of things it takes to run an MLB team, that have nothing to do with players. Scouts, management, travel expenses, advertising, ballpark matience, ushers, web designers, equiptment, electricity, heck I could go on forever, but you get the point.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Feb 23, 2005 -> 01:51 PM) I believe you mean profit not operating income. I am sticking with Forbes terminology.

The world hasn't seen something like this since the influenza outbreaks of the 'teens right? Or would AIDS fall under something like this?

QUOTE(qwerty @ Feb 23, 2005 -> 01:49 PM) Well i know that if defense was so important to most coaches third string guys would be the starters on most teams. Since alot of the good offensive players are not exactly very good on defense. Ben isn't even "not exactly very good on defense" or he would be getting 40 minutes a night. Plain and simple. It doesn't do any good to score 25 a night when you give up 35 on the other end of the floor. It is the same reason that Tyson Chandler is in a game during the stretch run, and Eddy Curry is on the bench waving a towel.

QUOTE(AnthraxFan93 @ Feb 23, 2005 -> 01:27 PM) Huh? No the revenues that you gave me that showed the gate numbers, come on now.. you gotta do better than that. Well I have been waiting for you to do better than the same old conspiracy theory's and that hasn't happened. Once again, since you seem to have forgotten it already, here is the Forbes article. http://www.forbes.com/free_forbes/2004/0426/066tab_19.html 2003 season's operating income was almost $13 million. The 2004 payroll went up about $14 million over the 2003 payroll. Coincidence? I think not. Also if you actually read the article gate receipts were only $32 million, which means their total revenue number was indeed their total revenue, which blows that whole "hiding revenue" conspiracy out of the water. Yes the Sox had over $90 million in revenues that were not gate receipts. Forbes is a great source for this info as they are experts in corporate structure and actually understand what goes into financial reports and how to dissect them They are a much better source of info than you will get out of JR or MLB. You should try looking for your info there.

From what I hear Molto's is the place to go

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Feb 23, 2005 -> 01:23 PM) What a dumbass. But I still kicked your ass all over the place on the Nintendo, and that's all that matters. Watch the name calling... don't make me ban you

QUOTE(AnthraxFan93 @ Feb 23, 2005 -> 01:10 PM) Source is look at the gate Revunes from last year, they should equal our payroll before we were "okayed" to increase the payroll, do you actually think that money came out of the owners and JR pocket? NOPE, it was a part of that TV deal they signed. Are you still looking at the revenue number based on 4 tickets and extrapolating it as if were based on one person?

Who hasn't registered yet? I think it is Sonix... is that right? There are some teams that I don't recongnize.

QUOTE(AnthraxFan93 @ Feb 23, 2005 -> 12:44 PM) Lets get some things straight baseball is never good business, to have such a mismatch of funds between teams is just plain dumb, but with that said.. it not going to change anytime soon I don't think. Even when the CBA comes due, I don't see a major change in it, you will have the NY and Boston fighting for keeping the rules the same, and players backing those owners up. As for us, we could be in the elite of the pack, the problem is JR and the board doesn't pony up the money, they do use the gate/ park fees as a basis for setting the team payroll, what they don't include is the TV/Radio deals that they got from ESPN and ComCast this past year. I would love to find the figures on how much more money they got from those deals, that they are not putting back into the teams roster. You all need to quit getting your baseball info off of conspiracytheory.com.

McGovern vs Mondale, and death is not an option?

For me it is health. This team was dead last year when Frank and Maggs got hurt. This year we have two guys who have had serious injury problems in Dye and El Duque, plus we are still waiting for Frank to heal. If this team stays healthy, it can win. If not, forget it.

full article http://www.tsn.ca/nba/news_story.asp?ID=115883&hubName=nba

QUOTE(winodj @ Feb 23, 2005 -> 11:47 AM) One time this drunk guy gave me a scarily detailed description of his wife's private parts and handed me an unopened bag of sugar free reese's cups. Now see I ride that damned train everyday, and I never see anything that cool. I usually get the moms with their little girls who have 27 American Girl Place bags, all screaming into cell phones, while the kids run up and down the aisles. The best one I had was the woman who was talking loud enough for an entire half of a train car to hear her conversation of how she would have killed someone step by step.

How about some new questions to keep this thread going? We'll go with a Southside/Northside theme this time. Fact or Fiction The Cubs will win more games than the White Sox Fact or Fiction Jon Garland will win more games than Kerry Wood Fact or Fiction Carlos Zambrano will win more games than Mark Buehrle Fact or Fiction Scott Podsednik will steal more bases than the whole Cubs team Fact or Fiction The Cubs attendance will average 15,000 per game higher than the Sox Fact or Fiction Jermaine Dye will out homer Jeromy Burnitz Fact or Fiction Latroy Hawkins will have a lower ERA than Damaso Marte Fact or Fiction The White Sox will finish higher in the standings than the Cubs will

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/02/22/casualty.hoax.ap/index.html People like this deserve that special corner of hell

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6861065/

QUOTE(winodj @ Feb 23, 2005 -> 11:25 AM) In the evening it is. The South Shore is full of commuters getting soused out of paper bags on their trip back to Miller and Ogden Dunes. Thank god for my gas sipping box. The construction workers are the best with the cases of Busch Lite

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Feb 23, 2005 -> 09:59 AM) The thing is, is Gordon good enough to overcome his shortcomings to be the 40 minute starter that'll probably bolt him to stardom? Not unless he leaves the Bulls or Hinrich gets dealt for a big 2 guard. With the Bulls back court as it is now, there isn't room for 80 minutes of 2 6'2" guards per game. Especially with Skiles, they have got to be able to defend.

Vinnie Johnson is a real good comparison. He has some huge 4th quarters, but because of his defensive short comings, he couldn't really play a whole game, and was much more valuable coming off of the bench and lighting up a second string, or hitting the court in the 4th Q fresh, while his defenders were nearing 40 minutes on the floor.