southsider2k5

Actually you went from ranting about the White Sox future ownership and ownership structure back to the lease when you got challenged with the absurdity of your arguments. I think you missed that if the new owner pays for a new stadium, we don't need to worry about the ISFA anyway.

But we let you post anyway.

The ISFA has zero to do with ownership transfers. I know you are smarter than that.

And would rather hire half rate yes-men than bring in a superior product that might challenge him.

Because most of the dudes we are trading are flawed themselves. No franchise was paying up for a dude like Hauser. It does take two to tango.

Plus the risk/reward. Our fan base literally only shows up after long periods of winning. It's the very definition of a bandwagon fanbase, like it or not. What we did for the past 35 years absolutely, unequivocally did not work. The franchise did nothing to build a new and expanding fanbase at 35th and Shields, despite all of the plentiful parking. We see the 2025 model out there. This isn't like 1989 when we were literally the first franchise to build a new park in a long period of time, and couldn't have foreseen the shift. Today we can see the model for a getting fans to show up to the park even when the team is bad. It's right there in front of us. This isn't the Boomer era where 3 hours of baseball is enough. People want to make a day/evening experience out of this. They want dinner before hand, and drinks afterwards, with some entertainment in the middle. We see it all over baseball. At the absolute very least, even if they go back to the historic neighborhood, they have GOT to plow over some of these lots and do more than build a single game day bar. The answer is right in front of us. Something has to give, or what we have seen for the past few years will become more common place. Either you have a revenue base, or you serve as a minor league franchise for the Have's of MLB.

Wait, is this all because 2 private entities had private negotiations, and came together on a private agreement? Wild.

It's true, he does.

You can hold whatever opinions you like, but you insult everyone's intelligence by pretending like that this isn't exactly how Jerry and company got rich themselves. Hell he even used OPM for 80% of the purchase price of the White Sox, not in a corporation or loan, but quite literally private equity from unidentified and undisclosed private investors on behalf of which he acts to this day. It's a duck bro. You are quacking at a duck to protect another duck.

Which is why having a 3rd rate ballpark in a neighborhood with a poor reputation (fair or not, it exists) is a fair topic here.

Outside of 2024, this is the Sox lowest single season attendance since last century. Adding 41,000 people to the worst in the 2000's isn't really a reason to brag about prices and giveaways.

This isn't about "different perspectives" It is about a factual statement completely ignored and misrepresented. Again. Which is exactly why I bowed out before the inevitable meltdown, again.

Especially because Jerry got rich by the 1970s and 1980s version of private equity.

Uh huh, right.

Williams with some time, plus a minimal running game is a good QB.

I literally said the SP 500. It closed at 130.24 on the date that Jerry bought the White Sox. It closed at 6664.34 on Friday. That's a return of 5116.95%.

EmSeeing this link, That's not at all what I said. I am bowing out before Ithe inevitable again.

There are trillion dollar valuations out there. That is basically the valuation of 500 White Sox's. I posted about Return on Investment in the past and the Sox valuation increase since Jerry took over is remarkablely similar to the SP500. I promise you in that same period that collective SP dividends are much higher than the White Sox or Twins over that period of time just judging by their operations debts.

And couldn't find a buyer seems like the most important part there.

People buying shares of a money losing company happens literally millions of times every day.

Conner isn't good, but is stark how much better the broadcast is with him in the booth

Sure, but you have to start somewhere. And I would rather see this vs another over the hill utility guy or mediocre reliever.

Don't confuse operations with valuation.

If they took on so much operations debt they had to bring in the buyer early, that's enough of a red flag to me. I didn't really buy it before hand, but seeing this plus what happened with the Twins, it checks out. They have been bleeding cash for years now.

He's probably not wrong for all of the same reasons we have been talking about since they didn't trade Robert.