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Again, if the feeling is that his extension doesn't fit his body that has been floated out there is true, the Sox don't see Taylor as a starter long term, no matter what they are saying publicly.

Cease being a great example of taking what is out there for a depreciated asset versus selling at the top.

This is absurd. You are basically telling me that Robert had to have his value depreciate so that they could trade him at some sort of a fair price, knowing fully well that means risking his historically bad health, along with the whispered work ethic and coachability factors that keep being whispered about by those in the know, coming into play. What exactly was going to change in six months that all of the sudden that made a trade for Robert then a proper "value" for him. If teams weren't going to offer enough at 4 years, why would waiting six months for them to hopefully be offering the same thing in six months, but now with six months of depreciation to his value make it worth while to trade him because now that is proper "value" a sane thought. If it is the best offer you are going to get, why the heck wouldn't you take it? There is zero chance that the offers were going to go UP from him having a huge breakout year and full health for the time in his career. Speaking of "value" in some sort of abstract, with literally no evidence backing it up, versus his absolute value being almost certainly never going to be higher than it was in 2023 because of the factors that I keep mentioning, and keep being ignored seems like missing the forest for the trees. Rick Hahn was able to get a huge deal for Adam Eaton specifically, who was WAY less of a player with four years remaining on his deal. Chris Sale brought a much bigger "value" return as a more established player. Why wasn't it possible to get something along the Eaton to Sale lines in terms of a return for Luis Robert when we have seen it happen before?

The problem is that the Sox actions speak differently.

I really want to see the answer to the question of when Manfred tells the players they are giving up money without a cap, but that owners are losing a ton of money, how he proposes their are billions for the players to get, without the owners losing more money. That is pretty contradictory.

Ope.

If the leaks about Taylor not being considered a starter are true, you deal him if someone offers you a top closer price for him. Keeping a Ferrari at your trailercourt is pointless.

Considering he is still a part of this organization, they are probably STILL paying Tony.

Vs the Jewish faith apparently.

This is not what the revisionist history is telling us. The whole sales job since Getz took the job is that the insiders all knew it was horrible and Hahn had burned this franchise to the ground, so there was no other way to see what was going to happen besides years of pain as they rebuilt from the ashes. The only reason to keep Luis Robert was if you thought you could do this relatively quickly.

Dude is an injury prone 35 year old OF. There is no hindsight needed here. Trade him for the best offer.

But we literally hired Chris Getz because he was going to save us a year of figuring out the organization because he knew everyone already. If half of what has been said about Luis Robert is true, plus full well knowing you are betting on a dude that has been injured a ton since we signed him at 18 years old, Getz should have known that 2023 absolutely could be a peak. If he Fedde'd the deal and took one less on something to get a deal done, that is insanely better than what we are getting in 2025. This should have been most obvious to Chris Getz.

Here's the thing. If you know your car has problems, the dealer offers you $1000 under what is is worth, do you walk away knowing it could break down at any time because of "value" or do you take what you can get so you can move on? Even if Chris Getz is more worried about "value" vs what is best for the franchise, he would have been very likely to be be proven right in the long run when Luis Robert has his inevitable breakdown. He literally did this last year with Fedde. He took a less than value deal because he probably knew this was peak value, and even though it was less than what it should have been, it was better to get what they got, than risk keeping him.

If you KNOW there is a really good chance this is peak value, and you allow him to depreciate significantly, you didn't get maximum value, and that ISN'T best for the organization. And honestly, why is the assumption they wouldn't get value? Rick Hahn got huge value for both Chris Sale and Adam Eaton with 4 years of control. Why wasn't Chris Getz capable of doing the same?

With how Jerry treated his candidacy, I can also see his family changing their minds on his being inducted as a White Sox.

This.

Again, if Chris Getz care more about "value" vs what he knows is best for the franchise, why did we hire him?

This had better be more planting silly stories at the deadline.

But for Chris Getz it wouldn't be hindsight. It is literally why he was promoted.

You are way to caught up in this single detail and entirely missing the big picture. Coming off of the complete collapse of this rebuild and throwing the old regime under the bus to do it, Getz walked into what we are now being told is a complete disaster which had no other outcome other than long term collapse of the franchise, (despite claiming that Getz was lying to everyone when he claimed the Sox could compete quickly, which is the valid reason to hold on to Robert,) with an asset at its peak in a franchise circling the drain. An asset now that we are told has been lazy and doesn't listen to coaching. An asset that has had injury problems since he was signed at 18. This under a GM who was supposed to not need time figure it out, because he already knew everything about the players in the organization. And despite all of this, we are supposed to focus on "value", despite Getz having access to all of this insider information knowing full well that if he stayed some combination of injury prone, lazy, and uncoachable, he wasn't going to get any kind of a return for Robert anyway? If Chris Getz was really more worried about the PR of "value" versus what was best for this franchise long term, he should quit his job and find something safer for his level of cowardice. Teams were going to back up the truck for a healthy and cheap 2023 Luis Robert. Take the best offer, reload, and use it to move the rebuild forward. The Sox got massive returns for players in similar situations in the last rebuild. If these guys were half as smart as we are told, they should have been fine.

Betting on Luis Robert's health has always been stupid.

Yep. If Chris knew all along this was a project, literally his first mistake was not taking the best offer on Robert at his peak.

Lenyn Sosa was signed by the White Sox on July 2nd, 2016, and has known no other organization but the White Sox since he was 16 years old. How the f*** do you make it 9 years and still not know the infield fly rule as a professional athlete? What the f*** are these kids being taught?

Apparently they extended Billy Donovan. Gotta give it to Jerry, he'd rather employ complete asskissers who do what he asks versus actually achieving something. That's why his franchises are completely in disarray.

That was a joke.