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If you ignore everything else including valuation of contract over prospects and letting value go to near zero, he did great!

Never wonder why I mock your over the top defenses of Getz.

On pace for. Hopefully you are smart enough to understand the difference.

One of two things happened when Getz took this job. He and Jerry were both full of s%*# when he took over talking about this being the quickest way to competing and yet they still held on to Robert knowing his extensive injury history going all of the way back to his pro debut. He honestly believed the hype about this being quick and held on to Robert thinking he would help speed things up despite his injury history and coming off literally his only full pro season with no injuries to speak of. Either way, Robert was probably the biggest mistake of Getz's career since his last promotion. They rode him from a superstar to a post hype prospect return, when it could have been way different.

He would have really been vindicated if he had dumped him for the biggest offer out there the winter after he got the job and probably had 2 to 3 quality starting players from that deal on the ML roster today.

Consensus? No way. Hell even I was saying I still liked my preseason 69 win prediction. I liked it in a down week, and I still like it in an up week.

Keeping in mind the guy who was in charge of their minor league development, was in charge of their disposal from the Sox.

While many other guys got knocked for work ethic and attitude, Kopech definitely wasn't the most dedicated or coachable guy from the sounds of it. He could well be standing in a hole of his own making.

I will continue to hold the 3 straight 100 loss seasons against him instead. Or I will keep mocking Ron for his trolling threads. Come on man.

He's been done. The years of playing through injuries just fried Eloy, Yoan, TA, and Luis. It's why waiting years to trade him was always stupid. Dude had an injury history going all of the way back to Rookie ball.

I think the only question is has he topped out, or does he have another level. I do think with some of this, there was the idea that he might still have another level, to make him generational, but he hadn't really shown a step up this year which would separate him from the rest of the pack. I do think he is a guy who will be on the Gordon Beckham path to the majors and will probably be in Chicago by July 4, 2027 in some form, and that is as is, today. Can he push into that next level of a regular all star? Well that seems to be the question as of today. While he might not have separated himself, I don't think there is any question he grades out as a really good MLB starter.

Ron needs to apologize for this thread not being about Jerry Reinsdorf incest hiring Chris Getz.

JFC! Ok, a hammy wasn't good, but this is see you in 2028.

It is uncanny.

Deflection

So you deflecting to BUT THEY WERE NOT COMPETITIVE wasn't a deflection, but WHY they were ACTUALLY non-competitive doesn't matter. Sure Baghdad Eddy.

The carve out for non-competitive teams is hysterical, because it tries to exclude the fact that that the lack of competition is very much due to their own doing. -This is a franchise that hasn't gone outside of the organization to hire a chief executive who wasn't already getting a paycheck from the White Sox, maybe ever, but at least decades. -They are a franchise who was among the last in mlb to make a minimal investment in Latin America -They are a franchise with no presence in the far east. - they have the smallest front office in baseball -they were one of the last to make a serious investment in technology, but are seemingly still looking for intern level people to interpret and create data. -they are the last team in baseball to spend on a nine figure contract. -They may be the only team in baseball without a team President in the front office instead of the C suite. I could keep going, but the point remains that the Sox spend so much time being non-competitive because they refuse to compete!

Hopefully he can ACTUALLY translate to the real club, instead of it being a AAAA bender.

And look, make it about the prospects if you like, but the REAL cause is that Jerry will not dig in and pay players, forcing Chris, Rick, or whoever to trade players for "value" before they expire. There was no reason financially the Sox with a collapsing payroll couldn't have dug in on a long term deal for Garrett Crochet to bridge them into the next decent team. But instead we all know the Sox are cheap, and won't do it, so Stockholm shorthand our way to prospect returns instead of wasting time on the obvious part that they won't be resigned. I mean what is the best way to short circuit a rebuild? How about with a superstar frontline pitcher to start it. Nah. Moar prospects.

Now what did I do with my shocked face.

They said a week ago he wasn't where they wanted him to be, and they wouldn't send him out on a rehab stint until he was. Getz also hinted that his rehab stint might be significant since he had missed so much time, spring training, etc.

And to tack on to this, the one expensive player the Sox didn't try to trade early in this rebuild was Luis Robert, and the reason given? Not enough prospects, aka "value". Moar prospects indeed.

Hazy is right. His entire White Sox service time is a bit Hazy

Chris Sale $27m Dylan Cease $21m Garrett Crochet $25m Carlos Rodon $28m Noah Schultz ~800k

But other than that Mrs Lincoln, how was the play?