southsider2k5

Probably 16ish to be in this international class.

He didn't say it. He didn't say it was racist, but he also didn't say it wasn't. If your argument is what was actually said, you are 100% wrong.

I would rather look for MIke Trout Jr., but sure.

He never actually said it wasn't racist. For someone who is saying they are going off of what was said, that was never actually said.

So no, got it.

So where did Tim say his previous statements were OK and not racist?

Tony won't allow it.

Out of curiosity, since you have appointed yourself as the bearer of the standards of racism, how many teammates need to say something. You have 2 white ones and a Hispanic one to start with. I would say TA has been measured because he knows that people are looking to destroy him on things like this because of his race and outspokeness. Because people are willing to put the victim on trial here because he didn't measure up to imaginary BS standards, instead of the actual problem in Josh Donaldson. It's almost like his teammates are looking to protect him from people who don't understand what is like to be black in America and are wanting to put TA on trial for daring to stand up to racist tropes without justifying it to everyone who doesn't care to understand why. Of course you haven't talked to TA at all either, yet here you are subscribing thoughts to him that are 180 degrees from his history and actions. And as to Donaldson, he doesn't have to have racist intent for his words and actions to have racist undertones. That isn't up to Donaldson, which is exactly the point.

This is 100% not true. There is absolutely no where that TA said this was OK. Just because he ignored it, doesn't mean he was OK with it. Victim blaming Anderson is trash.

Its the 2022 version of "know your place, boy". Same message, new words.

The wealth transfer that has happened over centuries because of racism and racist policies is a real thing. If your opponent gets a 50 meter head start in a 100 meter race, you don't get to claim the race was fair because the last 50 meters were run equally. The irony here is that your last sentence was 100% correct, but for 100% the wrong reasons. In 2019 the average white family in the US had almost $200k in wealth. The average black family was $25k. Even if you were able to wave a magic wand to make every single bit of racism in the US disappear, that gap does not because wealth is transferred generationally. These are people who start from behind in wealth, live in substandard neighborhoods, attend substandard schools, with lower funding, and have fewer work opportunities even when of equal qualifications in the job market. This IS a never ending loop that will never go away unless something is done. https://www.brookings.edu/blog/up-front/2020/12/08/the-black-white-wealth-gap-left-black-households-more-vulnerable/

If you don't see the racist undertones here, you don't want to. You might even not be able to understand them because of your upbringing, but that doesn't mean they aren't there, nor can you just handwave them away. Understanding the explicit racism that Robinson experienced and why TA could connect to that is 100% race based. Pretending that racism doesn't exist doesn't fix the problem.

I know they have common franchises, but did they ever play together?

Bravo. For the record THIS is bravery greg.

He absolutely did and appeared to call him a b**** afterwards. Knowing the context, I don't blame TA either. Donaldson Using racist terms should come with anger and a price.

Cool, so if I call you a racist and everyone laughs, no problem, right?

That extra money is paying off.

Do you believe in personal responsibility?

Exactly. He should be able to do anything he wants with no consequences. Where did I hear that before?

How about if he called him David Duke?

Look, if you think that wanting to improve the game for young black males, especially in baseball, is something worth mocking, that is all you need to know about Josh Donaldson.

"Cancel Culture" is a phrase used by people who don't want to be held responsible for anything they do.

I am old enough to remember when people actually believed in personal responsibility.

Look, there is a real chance that Josh Donaldson is trashy enough to not get the ignorance and inherent racism in his statement to TA. He seems like the same douchey frat boy personality who uses any of the other slurs. He definitely is the guy who uses things like this to tweek people, and then play dumb because "he was joking", without understanding what he is really saying. He deserves no benefit of the doubt.

Oh Tim had something to say too. They got broke up pretty quickly.