southsider2k5

They never developed enough pitching

I know a lot of people are disappointed they didn't get to use the "Eloy, Luis, and Yas are our deadline pick ups" line.

The Goose Granny was one of my non-playoff all time favorite moments.

I was at a play last night, but really happy to see Tony react this way. Like I have said all year, you have to protect your players.

Suck it Guardians!!!

I think I speak for everyone when I say... WHAT ARE YOU DOING WEGNER?!?!?

That's awesome to see.

Replacing Madrigal with a guy who has 18 homers also does that. Plus getting back Eloy, Luis, and Yas.

It's OK, being angry and edgy is still cool.

Yes how dare he approve the addition of one of the best closers on the market! HARUMPH!

Ya'll not gonna Ray Ray me today. I am enjoying the best day to be a Sox fan in a really long time.

If there is a major injury, the option doesn't vest even if he hits 55 GF

The window is officially closed.

Its really too bad he couldn't just keep his mouth shut and let him leave quietly. There is just no good reason for it.

There is no doubt that Madrigal + Heuer < Hernandez + Kimbrel. That's easy.

All you have done is rage about this. #1 isn't a yes or no question. It is more complex than a simpleton sound byte type of answer. It is a resource question. There is no indication that the same deal could have been made for Bryant. Heck I wanted Bryant, but there was no indication that we could have had him. Apparently the initial return was misposted for Bryant, so his was also a pretty significant return. My guess is that whatever they got for Bryant, plus whatever they got for Kimbrel was more in the Cubs minds than what the Sox were willing to offer for Bryant, plus what someone else was willing to offer for Kimbrel, AND more than what the Sox were willing to offer for both of them, which is why the deals happened the way that they did. They also correctly took into account ones free agent status this year versus the others, and the value it added to the deal. The Sox did similar in how they navigated the returns for Sale and Eaton. They have offers from Washington on both. They saw they could get some of the same players either way, but at the end of the day they though the combination of the two offers they got was better than it was another way. The Sox have also seen what every single other Sox fan has seen over the last month, which is a bullpen that has been dog shit in middle relief and set up. They saw this as an opportunity get one of the best in the game to shorten up games, as well as to shove every one else down into a less impactful role below them. Hopefully not too confusing there. #2 The White Sox could have signed a reliever NEXT OFF SEASON, which doesn't help them this year. That makes this so absurd of a question as to seem really obvious as to its answer. If you want more, refer back to the previous question as to how awful the Sox pen has been recently. #3 Again, this is not a yes or no type of question on a note passed to me during recess. Nick Madrigal is obviously not an irreplaceable player. In fact his major injury history since he got here is probably rewriting a lot about how this organization views him going forward. Yes it would have been nice to had him penciled in at 2B for the next 10 years with health, but the team felt the chance this year and next was better with Kimbrel than Madrigal gave them this year and next, and they figured it was worth what they were giving up past that in control for Nick. They also seemed to feel by this move that the loss of Nick in this line up is more replaceable than the difference between Codi Heuer and Craig Kimbrel, and I am having a hard time disagreeing with that.

It's totally different types of game. Madrigal NOT being healthy has actually been a large part of the problem, and not only created the Hernandez need, but made him someone the team was willing to risk giving up on for a HUGE upgrade in pen.

Considering Madrigal can't play this year due to injury? I am going to say better.

I get you want to be mad. But I can't be mad today. The White Sox are SIGNIFICANTLY better because of the moves they made today and yesterday. Its too bad that is confusing for you, but I am going to enjoy it. Rage away.,

Except Craig Kimbrel apparently.

This move changes things for me. They don't spend this kind of money on Kimbrel, if they aren't willing to spend more later. Without this move, I have a lot more doubts.

I have to imagine they got better offers for sure. They got a good to very good 2B and a relief pitcher. Contrast this deal with the Chapman deal.

This seems to be a theme. The White Sox are a better team today than they were yesterday, and a much better team than they were two days ago. The Sox have LOADs of DH options. They have Eloy if he doesn't play LF, and they have guys like Sheets if he does. in 2021, having a shutdown bullpen is one of the primary ways to win in the playoffs. We have seen it time and time again. If you can't see the improvement in this team from Heuer to Kimbrel, you don't want to see it.

I have said it before, I don't think this deals happens without the front office knowing that #2 is happening.

I am really confused how you are so confused. What just happens seems incredibly obvious to like 90% of people. You not liking it is fine. To pretend to not understand it? GMAB.