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QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Jan 18, 2005 -> 02:43 AM) Wow, I agree w/ Nuke on something in this forum. All this comparing vote totals is so silly, whether it's Bush or Kerry. Both candidates were so good that they each got more votes than George Washington! I know, it's not just here. I've heard pundits talking about this stuff. But what a waste of time.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Jan 18, 2005 -> 02:18 AM) This is such a stupid point ot be arguing. First of all the population has gone up quite a bit in the last 20 years and the turnout was higher as well. Of course candidates today are going to get a higher vote total than Reagan did, even if they lose. Reagan won 49 states, 58.77% ov the vote and won the EC 525 - 13! But, I guess that doesn't matter. I don't know what any of this has to do with Kerry / Bush / Iraq.

QUOTE(Cali @ Jan 18, 2005 -> 01:13 AM) I never watch the show, because it's reality crap. But how bad can these peoples lives be? The OWN a home. That's not a easy accomplishment. How bout Extreme Makeover Apartment Edition. You take the $$$ you would have used to renovate a house, and give it to a family that's stuck in a s***ty apartment and they get to use it as a down payment for their own house. I'll tell ya how bad: They remade a house one time for 7 children that lost both their parents within 9 months. The oldest was like 20 or something and was taking care of all the others. Yeah, they own the house, which was 3 bedrooms and 1 bath, but it was going to hell. They came in and fixed the house and got the kids scholarships, IIRC. How's that apartment now?

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Jan 18, 2005 -> 01:43 AM) Guarantee this won't stop him from finding another position somewhere in the South. Yeah, because EVERYONE in the south are racist pigs. :headshake You're no better than him now. Congratulations.

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Jan 14, 2005 -> 03:35 PM) Check out "The Cooler" with Alec Baldwin, it's been out for a while, but a lot of people are still snoozin' on it. :fyou Alec Baldwin! Thanks for the suggestion, though.

QUOTE(Soxnbears01 @ Jan 14, 2005 -> 03:27 PM) Garden State's pretty good if your into artsy type stuff. NO, not artsy. Looking more for like a comedy or drama.

I only rent about once every 6 months. Any suggestions for rental tonight?

QUOTE(Texsox @ Jan 14, 2005 -> 02:34 PM) I have a couple K of C policies on my wife. They didn't like my health history and wouldn't cover me. I thought health might be something they decided to get into. I asked my rep. He said there's too much risk and the great rates they have on Life would suffer. The membership pretty much voted it down based on that.

QUOTE(winodj @ Jan 14, 2005 -> 02:35 PM) So, what were we talking about? Oh yeah. What do you think the possibilities of a Golden Girls reunion are? About the same as a Joanie Loves Chachi reunion.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Jan 14, 2005 -> 02:03 PM) I assume that is life insurance and not health insurance you are speaking of. Plenty of health insurance plans cover the baby in the womb. K of C only offers Life. Sorry, I should have made that destinction.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Jan 14, 2005 -> 02:13 PM) That makes sense. I just wonder how much influence these so called "community" leaders really have. Who are the whote community leaders who are influencing me? Dubya? Rushie? SS2K5?

QUOTE(Texsox @ Jan 14, 2005 -> 02:16 PM) By the powers vested in me by absolutely no one, I declare this the: Most Hijacked Thread in Soxtalk History I agree. I am so lost!

QUOTE(Texsox @ Jan 14, 2005 -> 02:01 PM) Perhaps nothing but time and a population shift. But one step is for "whitey" to recognize it still isn't a level playing field. Pointing smugly to Bill Cosby and others and thinking society as a whole doesn't have a problem, that it's the minorities fault, isn't going to help. Cosby is right in that there are problems within the black community as well, and they must be addressed. But the rest of society shouldn't see that as an excuse to stop trying and fix theirs. I can agree with that. I take Cosby's comment to be critical of the jesse Jacksons more than the black community. The JJs blame "whitey" first. Yes, "whitey" and "society" is a problem, but pointing fingers won't fix anything by itself. Change has to be made within the community in conjunction with "fixing" society.

One reason I have Insurance through the Knights of Columbus: They ar the only insurance priovider that covers a baby in the womb. Just FYI.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Jan 14, 2005 -> 01:38 PM) There is a moving line in all this. What is an acceptable form of prayer in a school and what is not? If I pray by facing the nearest bronze object and humming and you hold hands and whisper, and he needs to go outside and face wherever, is the school obligated to accommodate each of us? Where should they draw the line? If we accept my Church as being "acceptable" and therefor allowing me my prayer tradition, and don't accept yours, who chooses? Should the schools decide on a case by case basis? Should we look at how many kids of that faith are in the school, and if it's only one or two, they are out of luck? Should the government choose and create a list of religions tat are acceptable and those prayer traditions are allowed and all others are not? It is far easier to reject all or accept all, than to pick and choose. I do not want my religion placed above anyone else's, nor do I want it placed beneath. I prefer equal footing for all and if that means rejecting all forms of prayer in schools, I will accept that. If it's a disruption then it's a problem. These cases don't seem to be disrupting anyone.

I don't normally do this, but I got this e-mail and though it was clever.

I don't believe that way. The fetus has the same rights, IMO, conceived in rape, incest, whatever.

Want more? How are these the "state" establishing religion?

PS I also meant the "Activist judges" you referred to.

QUOTE(winodj @ Jan 14, 2005 -> 12:48 PM) Except if you read the story, you'll find the ACLU was not at all involved in this case. So your point is what? By "They" I meant the left. I didn't realize you only wanted ACLU cases.

156 Row 22 sts 1-4. Aisle seats!

QUOTE(Texsox @ Jan 14, 2005 -> 09:46 AM) If instead she decided to sky-dive, ride in the rodeo, etc. would that be a crime? Or smoke? Or drink?

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Jan 14, 2005 -> 11:21 AM) I was referring to Jesse Jackson, not Elder. I don't know enough about Elder to say anything. I know.

Larry Elder can be "out there" sometimes, but I like a lot of what he has to say.

QUOTE(winodj @ Jan 14, 2005 -> 12:29 AM) I'll start you out with two. OK? In July of 2004, an federal appeals court ruled that a public display of the ten commandments in a courtroom was religious in nature and in violation of the establishment clause of the first amendment. Those damn activist judges taking religion out of their own courtrooms.... Then in February of 2004, the ACLU successfully sued to have a ten commandments monument removed from a public park in Plattsmouth, Nebraska. Here's a quote from the ACLU's Nebraskan Executive Director, Tim Butz "All we have sought from the very beginning of this matter was to have the monument transferred to private land and remove the appearance of government endorsement of its religious content.” Yes, stamping out Christianity by moving displays of it from public to private property. That's really ruining religion for the rest of us. But then they turn around and do this: Judge rules Islamic education OK in California classrooms