FlaSoxxJim

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 18, 2006 -> 05:58 PM) Care to translate? It's like an updated version of the old Marlo Thomas series, but with George in the lead role.

I'm In When God makes love, he shouts out loud "Oh, My Rally Crede!!" Rally Crede

Cliff sucked hard - He gawn Will Sean Tracey get it done? Do what Oz says, yo

I say let this one keep going/growing. at least through the year. Maybe starting a new CAAT thread each year would be good. I still read it. A couple of minths back for fun I want back and read the first 20 or so pages one night. Yeah, I sure know how to have fun.

QUOTE(SoxFan76 @ Jul 14, 2006 -> 04:59 PM) From sea to shining sea... And from C to shining C (cup).

QUOTE(Steff @ Jul 14, 2006 -> 06:08 PM) That's not what he said. He said he was .008 OVER the limit. The limit being .08 and the guy was .088 But, we were told there would be no math on this website. . .

Can you feel the love? Man, just think of how snipy-snarky we'd al be with each other if the Sox were tanking. . .

QUOTE(Reddy @ Jul 14, 2006 -> 03:59 PM) . . . my primary point was to praise the mods here. i think that was obvious. Suck up.

QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Jul 14, 2006 -> 03:53 PM) Yeah...that's right...Kajagoogoo. Wow. They were way more awful than I remembered.

I'm feeling downright patriotic. In fact, I'm, er. . . , 'standing at attention' just thinking about the event.

Funny picture from GWB's current visit to Germany:

QUOTE(bmags @ Jul 14, 2006 -> 02:18 PM) no... que?

QUOTE(juddling @ Jul 14, 2006 -> 01:09 PM) Not sure what the charge would be called but the police should cite the man for making a crappy beer!!!! Agreed, "beer crimes against humanity" should be an internationally recognized capitol offense.

QUOTE(Rex Kickass @ Jul 14, 2006 -> 12:38 PM) Sadly no. The 14 dollar tickets suddenly became 30 dollar tickets. Plus the 20-25 dollars each for train tickets. It suddenly became 100 dollars to take my squeeze to a game with horrible seats. Go stag then and save the money! Sorry you're not making it. At least we east-coasters can be conficent that our Fox feeds for the Saturday game will actually be the right game for once!

QUOTE(Rex Kickass @ Jul 14, 2006 -> 12:24 PM) When the President said he'd fire anyone to do with the leak. Karl Rove still has a job, and has now been publicly named as a source by the person who first printed it. And of course now that the content of the President's 2004 testimony to Fitzgerald has been released, we also know he should have fired himself for giving clear (if non-specific) marching orders to pull out all the stops in neutralizing Wilson's negative effect on the White House war push.

QUOTE(Rex Kickass @ Jul 7, 2006 -> 11:26 PM) Guess who has a 80% chance of seeing the White Sox play at Yankee Stadium next weekend? So, are ya going? Just got back home from our trip in to Chicago for the BoSox games (and lots of good pizza!), and sadly I think those will be the last games for me this year. Until October, that is!

QUOTE(vandy125 @ Jul 13, 2006 -> 02:30 PM) And Jim, there are many Christians who are actually consistent with what they say about IVF, abortion, and the death penalty if you want to bring that in as well. It seems like you are painting Christians who are against abortion with the same broad stroke and saying that they are all hypocrites. I know that you are not actually saying that, but it is coming across that way IMHO. The point is taken (as is that of YAS and others), and it's not my intent to paint all Christians with the same brush. That is why I made a point of regerring to the couples I take issue with "nominal Christians" -- that is, Christians in name only but not deed, based on their inability to actually walk it like they talk it.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jul 13, 2006 -> 03:34 AM) When you threw "God's will" into the equation, you made it analogous. I'm not arguing the rights or wrongs of the fertilized ova. But the sudden lack of concern for the fate of the fertilized ova (i.e., when it is convenient for them) is at the heart of the hypocrisy, and the only reason I take issue. If a couple spends every day of their adult lives railing against the evils of killing human embryos (claiming such an act is in defiance of God's Will) and then one day they elect for a medical procedure that in fact kills human embryos as a matter of course, that is hypocritical. It is the very definition of hypocrisy.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jul 12, 2006 -> 10:48 AM) I suppose a Christian going to doctor to keep from dying of say ... pnuemonia ... is also a hypocritical twist of God's will. As was stated earlier, you are really stretching things to fit your own anti-Christian agenda. Please look at the substance of my post, and don't just fal back on a pre-conceived perception that I'm anti-Christian. I am a non-Christian, and I am against any one religious viewpoint holding sway over all others to the point of subjugation, and that is it in a nutshell. As for the proposed analogous situation - employing modern medicine to combat pneumonia - it is only analogous if somewhere along the line you intentionally fertilize a half-dozen ova and selfishly decide to gestate them all within a single uterus while silmultaneoulsly fertilizing a half-dozen more that you know are going to be destroyed ('MURDERED') down the road. No embryos were murdered when you got your hypothetical pneumonia treatmet, or me my flu shots. But despite the standard protestations of the 'once it's fertilized it's life' crowd, embryo murder is apparently just fine and dandy if it's a mere side effect of fertility clinic protocol. I mean, isn't that the whole beef with contemporaray stem cell research -- that incipient human lives are destroyed in the process? How is the destruction of the same human lives after in vitro (e.g., when a clinic freezer is cleared out) so above reproach to amany of the same people (not necessarily you) that would condemn research that could save and improve untold of actual living and breathing human beings?

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jul 11, 2006 -> 03:50 PM) I think it makes the point well enough to say that opposition to stem cell research for religious reasons not teamed with a desire to outlaw in vitro fertilization clinics that use current methods is quite hypocritical, whether or not people are making use of those services. Yeah, it does, except that the Christian fertility clinic hypocrisy also exists completely separated from the stem cell issue. It's all about 'following God's Will' unless God's apparent Will is that a Christian couple not bear children. In that instance, God's Will is thrown out and the fertility clinic is enlisted and through frrtility drugs and sonic bombardment of the ovaries, etc., a massive amount of ova are harvested, artificially fertilized and implanted. Ah, the mysterious ways in which God's Will works. Then, however, when doctors advise down the line that their assisted childbirth protocol urges the selective termination of several or the implanted embryos for the sake of the health ofthe eventual offspring and the mother, God's Will again comes up. This time, though, it's God's will to refuse the advice of the clinicians rather than exploiting their services as God conveniently Willed them to do a few months earlier. You can't "MURDER" any of the sacred implanted embryos, and it's better to risk the health and safety of six or seven of them than to ensure that one or two of them have the best chance at survival and healthy life. And meanwhile, God's Will that the couple employ marvels of modern science to have a family rather than adopting has resulted in the creation of a bunch of excess fertilized embryos that do not meet Sacred muster and sit in a freezer unused until they are terminated. God's Will is conveniently maleable to fit the needs of the couple. And no, I don't suggest that Christian couples are making disoproportionate use of fertility clinics. It's just that they are the ones who will follow clinical protocol as far as implanting the embryos but not as far as selective reduction. Which means they are the couples on TV all the time having quintuplets and sextuplets and septuplets with all but guaranteed lifetime health issues. Because the lucky embryos that touched uterine tissue are, poof, all Sacred now, but the ones not eslected for implantation are not. Christian indignation at the thought of using existing frozen embryos for stem cell research is merely another layer in a convoluted, hypocritical and convenient interpretation of what wits within God's Will and what does not.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jul 11, 2006 -> 10:39 AM) Irish, it's actually worse than that. There are literally hundreds of thousands of frozen embryos in this country that people have saved through fertility clinics which will never, ever be used for anything. Typically a few dozen embryos are created during ain vitro fertilization processes, and on average, about 3 of them are actually used. The rest? They either are immediately discarded, or more commonly, they sit there taking up freezer space. There's never going to be anything close to enough demand for "Embryo adoption" or whatever you want to call it to satisfy the numbers that are created and stored during fertility procedures, so basically, these embryos sit in a freezer until they are discarded. We're not talking, for the most part, about aborted fetuses, not making use of things that have begun to develop at all. We're literally talking about frozen clumps of cells which are totally unregulated, stored, and will eventually be discarded. Surely somebody else appreciates the trifecta of irony (OK, actually hypocrisy) of the fact that so many of those frozen embryos are the results of nominal Christians who not only think 'following God's Will' means persuing near-superhuman efforts to conceive, but also insist on carrying all 6 or or however many of the implanted embryos to term regardless of health risks to the fetuses, and at teh same time will not give a second thought to the dozen or so fertilized embryos left sitting in a clinic freezer that WILL end up being discarded. That would mean these nominal Christians are the willful participants and driving motivator in the creation and eventual abortion (= MURDER if I've been following their argument right) of thousands of "sacred" human lives each year. Go figure.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Jul 9, 2006 -> 09:14 PM) Damn, I was am exhausted from sitting in my seat for 6 hours, I cant imagine how the players feel... I can relate. I'm so stoked that this was one of the only three games I'll probably make this year, and as long as we ended up on the right side of the win I can live with the flat ass and the 2 years of my life I think I lost to anxiety! I do think they should have resumed ber sales in the 15th - you kno, 7 innings on, 7 off, 7 on . . .

Yes, nuts, but with some flashes of brilliance in the early days. RIP Syd.

I have yet to see the first film. And 'm kind of bummed the Surfer is going to be in the sequel because it, probably means plans for an actual Surfer movie are being scrapped unless they use FF2 to springboard into some incarnation of the Surfer/Galactus saga in a Surfer feature film. i agree the character should be 100% CG. An actor in a Surfer costume would just be corny.

Born on the 4th of July.