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QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Sep 14, 2006 -> 06:31 PM) I used to be an up-and-coming stud, before the injury derailed me. I'm glad someone else gets it, and that there are quite a few of you in here. I'd rather have Jeter on my team than Juan, but not because his D's better. Because Derek Jeter is a stud and a future Hall of Famer and is everything that is right with baseball. I'd also rather have Ozzie Smith at Short, Ichiro Suzuki batting leadoff, and Andrew Jones roaming centerfield. We're talking about real, possible replacements for Uribe, and Jeter ain't one of them. Tejada isn't, either. Sorry. I'm the one who thinks Uribe is the best defensive shortstop. Jeter is not better than him defensively. Sorry. There can be a case for some case -- Gonzales, who is Ozzie's pick -- but I can't think of anything that I think is better, and anyone that is is only marginally so. Uribe's fine on my team. I'll bet Kenny isn't dying to get rid of him. Shortstop is the most important defensive position aside from, perhaps, catcher. Once again Gregory, i never said the sox should get either of those players, I simply said id rather have him on my team. I agree you need a good defensive shortstop, I'm just saying my opinion is we should upgrade at ss and i realize you dont think we should.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Sep 14, 2006 -> 06:26 PM) signed deal for 2005 season worth 3.85M on 1/18/05- + he can earn award bonuses- + later signed 5-year EXTENSION worth 40M thru 2010 season on 6/13/05- + he receives a 5M signing bonus that is payable in installments of 1M in July of each year of the deal- + he receives salaries of 4M in 2006, 7M in both 2007 and 2008, and then 7.5M in both 2009 and 2010- + the deal includes a Team Option for the 2011 season worth 8.5M or a 2M buyout- + bonuses he has earned: 75K for 2005 All-Star selection Agent: Dan Lozano 8 M in 2007 8 M in 2008 8.5 M in 2009 8.5 M in 2010 + another 2 million guaranteed. Sure is a lot for a guy with a career OBP of .330. You also have to factor in the players we would have to give up, and who says he is on the market anyways? Old or not, I'd much rather get Omar Vizquel unless Tejada really pisses of the Orioles managment further. who are you talking about?

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Sep 14, 2006 -> 06:14 PM) Ok, I never once said he was the best defensive shortstop in baseball and I never once said he was irreplaceable, I have no clue where the heck you came up with those conclusions. I was just wondering where we'd find a shortstop that was equal to Juan defensively and better than him offensively cause to be honest, there aren't many. As far as Rollins, I'd have no problem with Jimmy Rollins on this team but it'd be ridiculous imo to get rid of Juan just to get rid of him. Uribe is a solid overall player who seems to be underrated by a lot of sox fans because his defense isn't appreciated enough. I never said to get rid of Uribe just to get rid of him. Of course I'm looking to upgrade, also theres no way KW would get rid of him just to get rid of him so that's nonsense. I still don't see Uribe as underrated by sox fans. He is what he is and that's a good defensive shortstop. QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Sep 14, 2006 -> 06:13 PM) Jeter ain't nothing special defensively. All you have to do is watch a few games to find that out. His range is very, very limited. yeah but hes a playmaker. id rather have him on my field any day over uribe.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Sep 14, 2006 -> 06:00 PM) Where we gonna find that guy? No offense, but Uribe is not the best defensive SS in baseball by any means. Yes he is very good and I have been amazed by him countless times, but there's no way any of you can say he's irreplacable. You don't think Jeter is better than him? I'm not saying to get Jeter because I know that couldnt happen, however I am making the point that he isnt light years above many people. I wouldn't mind at all getting a SS that is a slght dropoff defensively that would bring more consistency to the plate. Are there really people out there that would rather have Uribe than Jimmy Rollins? come on be serious.

QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Sep 14, 2006 -> 05:57 PM) Gregory Pratt = Up-And-Coming Soxtalk Stud If we're talking position players, I want my major defensive assets at SS, CF, C, and to a lesser extent, 3B. Really, this is why Kenny Williams kicks ass. He actually understands how to build. I love it when guys aren't philosophically-challenged. so theres no reason to get a SS thats just as good defensively but better offensively then right?

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Sep 14, 2006 -> 05:51 PM) He's an elite defender. Yes, he's made a few poor throws this year but for the most part he's a stud at short. ill agree with you defensively, thats only half the game. he is not a good hitter, yeah he has some pop, but overall he is not a good hitter.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Sep 14, 2006 -> 05:29 PM) His value is that he's one of the better defensive shortstops in the league who adds some pop to that position. No, he's not the greatest hitter in the world but he does have some power and can drive in some runs. Juan is a very solid player who imo is pretty underrated overall by Sox fans. Id have to disagree with that. At the end of last year he was being compared to the elite short stops in the AL, you really thing he deserves that? his play in the post season might have made him look like that but this season certainly hasnt. That being said, I am pretty optimistic that he will be replaced in the offseason and replaced by a leadoff hitter at SS or he will be part of a package to get a leadoff hitter. Regardless of us making the playoffs or not, KW knows the holes of the teams and knows he needs to upgrade. And Uribe is a hole on this team.

QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 5, 2006 -> 11:55 PM) http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sp...-home-headlines Call me crazy, but I have a feeling that Ozzie wants to see Juan Pierre leading off in CF for the Sox next year. thats because Guillen is so impatient with his young players. All he does is praise Crede but i dont think he realizes how long it took him to get this good offensively at the major league level. i dont think theres anything wrong with him saying BA doesnt automatically have the starting job for next year though.

QUOTE(JUSTgottaBELIEVE @ Aug 15, 2006 -> 12:39 PM) pre-2005 how many people would have laughed at the notion that Jon Garland would lead the White Sox in victories for two consecutive seasons in '05 and on his way in '06? I know I definitely would have been one of those laughing at this thought but Jon's 18 wins last year led the team while his 13 this year are leading the way again 2 in front of Jose, Javy, and Freddy. Hard to believe but I am glad he was able to turn it around because at the end of the 2004 season I was certainly ready to get him out of chicago. thoughts? I'm glad he's getting wins but his era around 5 shouldnt impress anyone

QUOTE(Jenks Heat @ Aug 12, 2006 -> 08:47 PM) Houston Not sure about the attitude but he is average in center but could play left and hit off the bench. I am not sure if anyone has experience with his attitude. i was wondering why he got released to?

QUOTE(qwerty @ Aug 1, 2006 -> 06:01 PM) Buehrle's fastball when it is ''on'' is in the 89-91 range... not 85. He reaches 85 with every fastball he throws up there... not just 44% of the time. Could have just been a type i suppose... i was thinking the same thing

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Aug 1, 2006 -> 05:00 PM) Normally I'd agree with that sentiment, but when what he does in his free time has made him into a mediocrity, there're some problems. you dont know what he does all offseason. what if he smoked one time, failed his drug test, and that was that. maybe it was just an offseason of eating bad food and being lazy? its all speculation so whats the point of even talking about it anymore

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Aug 1, 2006 -> 04:57 PM) Freddy Garcia is a big fat washed up lazy pot smoker who might possibly be feeling the after-effects of steroid use. I'll be glad when he's gone next spring. And I didn't always feel this way about Freddy, either, but whatever. Whatever it was, Garcia should be ashamed at what he's done to himself. I'll be glad when he's gone too because hes not pitching like he used too, however his personal life has nothing to do with me wanting him gone.

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Aug 1, 2006 -> 04:40 PM) Uh, in that instance, I was responding to something someone else said, which I'm sure you must've read unless you're simply following me about the board looking for Freddy Comments. Why are you so upset by me musing about Freddy's drug use -- are you trying to defend Freddy's reputation, Mrs. Garcia? All I did was say that, hey, he's getting fatter, was caught with too much marijuana in his system, and has lost velocity in his fastball. Marijuana + Freddy might = why he's out of shape and throwing softer. Steroids and amphetamines seem like a better fit to me, too, but I don't put it past him that, hey, drug use might be a problem for dear old Freddy. And, not to play holier than thou, but I don't drink, do drugs or smoke cigarrettes, either. I don't take pain pills when I get hurt because I have a personal rule about dealing with pain (ever since I split my right index finger open on the Fourth of July in an accident a few years ago), and I don't take Tylenols, either. What else are you sure of? Don't put sarcastic words in my mouth, fathom. I'm sure plenty of players smoke pot. I don't see that many that have also gotten fatter, appear lazier, and have lost a lot of their talent, too. yeah thats pretty much what i do with my time, look every time you mention someone smoking marijuana. im not saying thats not an option as to why he has gotten worse as a player but it wouldnt be one of the first things that come to mind considering the types of enhancements that were used in the 90's and early 2000's. All I'm saying is everytime anything is mentioned about Freddy your name seems to follow it with him smoking marijuana. congrads on not ever drinking or doing anything harmful to your body, maybe you can go out there and teach Garcia a thing or two about how to live.

QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 1, 2006 -> 04:33 PM) Didn't you know, Garcia is the only MLB player to smoke pot. Also, I'm sure if Garcia did do it in the offseason, it likely wasn't his first time ever doing it. Thus, why didn't he lose his velocity in season's past if this is the way he "trains" in the offseason. exactly, if he's been doing it for years why would it just now affect him. and your right im sure there are tons of players that do it.

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Aug 1, 2006 -> 01:46 PM) I don't believe so. Freddy failed the international pot test for the WBC, heh. Why are you so obsessed about Freddy smoking pot? no one else on this board ever talks about it but you. just because he got caught in the offseason doesnt mean hes a pothead and does it all the time. im sure you drink sometimes does that make you and alcoholic? i really dont think thats the reason freddy has lost velocity and isnt the same pitcher. The steroids or amphetimines makes a lot more sense to me.

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Jul 31, 2006 -> 12:46 PM) Freddy is getting fatter, losing velocity, and smoking too much marijuana. His offspeed stufff isn't sharp, and you can't live with the offspeed forever. F--- that. He's pitching better than Vaz still. I'm guessing your some old dude that sees him as a pothead so you hold that against him and want him gone.

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Jul 31, 2006 -> 12:35 PM) I don't think we can afford Zito. I'm with you, he's going to be the top FA in the off season and we already have like the highest paid rotation in the majors. (didn't look it up but its for sure in the top 5) With that high of salaries for the pitchers you would expect them to perform...do you think kenny's just going to keep doing the same thing and just keep building the team salary higher and higher. I also realize you said to trade Freddy, but i would much rather trade Vaz. He has given up at least 5 runs in his last 9 starts or something like that and hasn't gotten to the 6th inning since mid may... Garcia at least gives us some quality outings.

QUOTE(Jake @ Jul 27, 2006 -> 04:19 PM) 88 and 84 are vastly different. And as I said it makes his changeup more ineffective even when thrown correctly. Right now batters can guard the low part of the zone easily because they have plenty of time to adjust to the high pitches. Yesterday's game he hit 87 only once. I don't know if it's the career innings or innings of late or even an injury or lack of effort, but he needs to make some kind of change. If he ends the year above 5 ERA, I don't expect the Sox to pick up his option. no matter what happens the rest of the season i dont see any way the sox dont pick up his option.

QUOTE(MHizzle85 @ Jul 27, 2006 -> 01:08 AM) When we were slumping last year...did we think our pitchers would be capable of doing what they did in the ALCS is what i'm saying we never lost the lead in the division last year. that wasnt so much the sox slumping as the indians playing unbelieveable.

QUOTE(MHizzle85 @ Jul 27, 2006 -> 01:03 AM) Last year in a "spot start" I believe he handled the sawx in Fenway pretty well, this can work...or i'd be satisified with Javy goin 5 and BMac starting the 6th he was never in the bullpen last year so he could handle a start long enough to be effective. If he were to spot startnow he'd be good till he got tired then get shelled. whats the point in that?

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jul 27, 2006 -> 12:15 AM) I still can't believe that every pitcher on our starting staff except for Jose Contreras could put up numbers THIS MUCH worse than their career numbers (And Contreras is still down from where he was at the end of last year/beginning of this year too). At some point, the numbers say these people have to turn it around. i wish career numbers meant anything right now

QUOTE(sayitaintso @ Jul 27, 2006 -> 12:16 AM) Why not, at this point could he be much worse that buehrle or javy are? that's not the point. no one thinks hes gonna get blasted but he has to build his stamina back up and that takes more than one "spot start". I agree, if hes going to be put in the rotation it needs to be for good. Changes need to be made to spark the players and the club. QUOTE(EvilJester99 @ Jul 27, 2006 -> 12:37 AM) I am of the mind that Buehrle should have a short stint on the 15 day DL to clear his head and rest his arm and let BMac start for him. this is the first time i can think of in the last 5 years that i have truly lost confidence in buehrle. i hate to say it but i bet he feels the same way. even when he started a couple seasons ago like 2-9 i still couldnt wait for his next start. he claims his arm feels fine but maybe a stint on the dl is what he needs to get himself mentally back to shape.

QUOTE(thedoctor @ Jul 25, 2006 -> 09:37 PM) joe cowley from the sun-times was on local radio out here today, and essentially said he didn't believe the trade would happen. his opinion, which was generally stated in the sun-times today, was that this was entirely a ploy to drive up the cost for some other team. he said he could see the sox making a deal of some sort, but that this one just didn't make sense for the sox from many standpoints. he also said he did not expect vaz or freddy to be traded, but said he was certain that vaz, freddy, or garland will be traded in the offseason because each is scheduled to make 10 million next year. this is why mccarthy getting traded made no sense to him, because he most assuredly will be the fifth starter next year. anyhow, that's just what he said. which is completely true. There is absolutely no way bmac is going anywhere. with those 3 guys getting paid $10 mill each and not performing like a $10 mill/year player, one is going to be gone and replaced by bmac who makes the league minimum. it opens so many more options for the off season.

QUOTE(Steff @ Jul 24, 2006 -> 05:15 PM) To Seattle. who would we want from seattle that they would be willing to part with since they are in the hunt?