Gregory Pratt

Yesterday you were making a stupid comparison between Ozzie and Baker and now that he is preserving his pitcher's arm -- he's so awful, wtf?! lololol Blah blah blah. Greg Walker sucks.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Aug 20, 2007 -> 08:47 PM) Ozzie has to give the 17 man pen a spin. He can play matchups now with anyone. Well, that and the fact that Buehrle had thrown over a hundred pitches and had been hit hard by, what, four straight hitters? But really, who cares about the situation at hand?

Relatively.

Dude's old, isn't he?

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Aug 20, 2007 -> 07:39 PM) I know everyone has gotten this draft fantasy into their heads, and you all should quit wasting your time, I think. There is one falacy that needs to go away, like yesterday, and that is the Sox being big spenders in the draft. The whole world knows that Bud Selig and Jerry Reinsdorf are on the same sides of things in this game. If Bud wants money set by draft slots, JR is going to see that it happens. We are not going to be a team that gives big money out of position. Heck odds are if it has been instituted as a policy by MLB, it could have originated with JR himself. Also we know what the Sox history is with drafting and developing thier own players. They don't do it well. Its like asking Jim Thome to sacrfice bunt. They don't do it, so why expect it? They do much better at scouting other teams minor league players, and selling their own players when they think the time is right. The Sox record is much better at raiding other systems, than producing anything on their own. Lets face it, we aren't the Twins. We don't pull amazing players out of our minor league system. We do an amazing job at finding players that other teams undervalue or give up on. Kenny has pulled some amazing years out of no where from players everyone was convinced would flop. I trust him more in that regard, than I do for any player we draft. IF we are going to go into a moderate rebuilding, it isn't going to be from our own draftees. You say that as if it's a good thing. I've been talking about this as if it's a bad thing, and I definitely think it is.

Good pitching matchup so far.

Should've done it this year, this break, even, rather than wait all this time.

Wainright? The draft can be a crapshoot, but we definitely don't help ourselves.

Wihmin.

Absolutely not.

Interesting info.

That's exactly my point.

Or Gunter.

Jake Peavy on the Southside of Chicago? His latest comments are very interesting. Might be kind of cool if he winds up in Atlanta, and I imagine that they'll be in on him on the trade market and try to sign him. Considering his history, and theirs with good pitchers, that might actually work out.

Sorry, Buehrle throws plenty hard enough to blow out his arm.

QUOTE(29andPoplar @ Aug 20, 2007 -> 01:08 PM) First part: Believe whatever you want. I brought him up because he is a highly respected baseball guy who's learned from some of the best, I'm glad he's in the White Sox organization and I know what type of positive changes he is trying to make. These are things I'm aware of from being out on back fields and interacting with baseball people in Arizona. If you have a problem with my semantics and find them misleading that's ok by me. Second part: True enough, the White Sox employ a lot of former White Sox players. Also true enough, a lot of other clubs hire their ex players too. Also true enough, there are many many many more non White Sox ex players employed throughout the organization than there are guys who played for the franchise. Well, I'll take your word for it that Regier is good. I hope he is, and that he's got some good ideas and the organization will listen to him. I guess I just object to the Atlanta and Schuerholz connection because for the life of me I can't find anything about him and he wasn't a "top protogee" but let's stop making such a big deal about that phrase.

QUOTE(29andPoplar @ Aug 20, 2007 -> 11:26 AM) Not to argue semantics but where exactly did I say anything about big and close? I did say he was a top protogee, maybe I should spell it out better, Regier is a guy who worked in the Atlanta org., the Milwaukee org, and the Red Sox org. Regier has said Schuerholz and Bill Lajoie have been big influences on him, he learned a lot from each. If I intimated that Regier sat in Schuerholz's office every day and listened in on his phone calls I certainly did not mean to imply that. Worked with him, influenced by him, yes. Lajoie and Schuerholz know each other very well and both were big influences on Regier. Again not to argue here but not everything is in that book you own. As for the last statement I'm not sure what difference it makes if someone has played for the White Sox or not. Good baseball people are good baseball people no matter where they're from. I specifically mentioned that he's not in any interviews or anything, either, so for you to call him a top protogee is misleading as can be, and that's what I'm contesting. That just because he once worked in Atlanta and Boston means what? Good for him, but he's not a "Top protogee" and I can't find anything about HIS track record that leads me to be impressed. What point are you trying to prove by bringing him up, anyway? That we're finally hiring competent people from competent organizations? 'Cause I'm not so sure we are. As to this, I like to say, somewhat sarcastically, that our organization has an incest policy whereby you must've played for the team at some point or other to wind up a coach or scout for it. And while that's clearly not 100% true, it has plenty of truth to it. Just look at Ozzie and his coaching staff, KW, and I'm sure it holds true all through the system.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Aug 20, 2007 -> 10:47 AM) I'd say Garland's mysterious 2 year "knot" counts as arm trouble. He's always had it.

Buehrle and Garland don't have enough torque to hurt their arms? Ha! Sure, they aren't throwing Felix Hernandez' slider, but their arms can go same as anyone's.

QUOTE(BearSox @ Aug 20, 2007 -> 09:52 AM) An all black OF... My idea to get Figgins would be to work out a three way deal with the Dodgers involving Garland and where we get Hu, Meloan, and Figgins. Your idea wouldn't work.

Santana didn't mind, as far as I can tell. He tipped his hat to the crowd as he exited the eighth, didn't he? He knew his night was done, and rightfully so. "I would've punched him in the face." Give me a f***ing break.

QUOTE(29andPoplar @ Aug 20, 2007 -> 09:29 AM) Articles and books don't tell everything. The point is, philosophically he picked up a lot from Schuerholz, he is highly respected and has made some positive changes already. In a brief conversation I had with him this spring he credited Schuerholz as being a big influence. Many of these baseball people are more interconnected than any article or book would indicate. Sure, well, I hope so, but you were talking about how big and close to John Schuerholz he was and he doesn't even get any credit from Schuerholz for anything even though John writes about them all the time. Further, I've never heard him mentioned in any of the many many many interviews with JS, so I really dispute that we've brought over an integral part of Atlanta or even a semi-integral part. We should be bringing in guys with good track records in Atlanta, Florida and Minnesota but why when they've never played for the White Sox?

This isn't, generally, an organization that values drag bunts. This is an organization that is teaching you POWER at every level. Don't get your hopes up.

Uh, not gonna happen, and that's the end of that/

Yes.