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QUOTE(Kalapse @ Feb 15, 2007 -> 11:55 PM) If include that final start before the break against the Cubs Buehrle's pre allstar break numbers are 4.02 ERA, 1.32 WHIP, 54:28 K:BB and a 9-6 record. Which are not spectacular numbers. We've already distinguished the All-Star break is not an equal division between halves of a season. Since the language I used was "first half" and not "pre-All-Star break," those numbers are moot to the discussion. My post stating "I don't understand," was to motivate Vance to elaborate on the two bolded sentences I found contradictory.

QUOTE(Vance Law @ Feb 15, 2007 -> 11:24 PM) Yes, I agree with you on that. I was following the convention of splitting the season into pre and post all-star game, though I do realize more games are played before the break. I bet you might agree with me that MB was not spectacular overall before the break. And hopefully everyone can agree that Phil Rodgers is a douche. I don't understand.

QUOTE(ptatc @ Feb 15, 2007 -> 09:17 PM) Why do so many people look at a season and insists on arbitrarily dividing it up? The last time I checked it is the team that has the most wins for the SEASON that get to go to the playoffs. Who cares if the first half or 3rd 8th or 12/16th of the season was good bad or spectuacular. You take the season as a whole and the team with the most wins moves on. In my case, to disprove this Phil Rogers statement: "Yes, neither [buehrle or Garcia] was nearly as sharp in 2006 as in '05..." I think that statement is false and tried to prove Buehrle was as sharp in 2006 as he was in 2005 over half the season. I guess my previous post to Vance Law was redundant since witesoxfan and santo=dorf had already stated my point. I didn't read the entire thread before I responded.

QUOTE(Vance Law @ Feb 14, 2007 -> 09:33 PM) False, 9 - 6 with a 4.02 ERA is not spectacular. And it very likely would not have gotten him on the All-Star team if his coach wasn't picking the players. Incorrect, perhaps your confusion is born from thinking the All-Star game evenly divides the halves of a season. Through the first 80 games of the season, Mark Buehrle had an ERA of 3.22. It wasn't until the 81st game of the season against the Cubs that Buehrle's season began to fall apart. Which yes, is the last day of the first half, but would be obtuse to ignore his 3.22 ERA entering the last game of the first half. So I'll say it again: Mark Buehrle had a spectacular first half of 2006.

QUOTE(Controlled Chaos @ Feb 14, 2007 -> 03:17 PM) Building, winning don't mix The only two starters who meet this criteria: Garcia and Buehrle. What a luxury to have two of those guys on the same staff the last 2½ years. Yes, neither was nearly as sharp in 2006 as in '05, but Garcia—traded to Philadelphia for pitching prospects Gavin Floyd and Gio Gonzalez—will be missed badly. You can count on that. False, Buehrle was spectacular in the first half of the '06 season. He had an All-Star first half and was recognized for it. Outside of that, I agree with everything in Rogers's column. I didn't think it was newsworthy though, as everything in his article has been thoroughly discussed here on Soxtalk.

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Feb 13, 2007 -> 10:12 PM) I'm never giving anyone benefit of doubt for anything. If Williams made a move one day after the World Series which I disliked, I would have criticized him if I felt it were necessary. Maybe it's my mindset, but I can't blindly sit back and tell myself that. I like that philosophy. Bad is bad; good is good. No reason to judge on a curve. QUOTE(Jordan4life_2007 @ Feb 14, 2007 -> 01:42 AM) Nothing against you, but I find it mind-boggling that the guy that got roasted all year long (Kalapse's intimidation has a new name sig being the cherry on the sundae), the guy that people couldn't wait to get rid of soon enough, is the same guy that has everybody crying and whining that we didn't get enough value for him? What exactly were we supposed to get for a guy that had exactly one year remaining on his current contract? Somebody please enlighten me. You might have a point if Soxtalk's anti-Garcia members were the only ones stating KW traded Garcia below his value. Many experts agree that KW received a package below Freddy Garcia's value.

"Throat yogurt"?

Does anyone know the technical audio/visual reasons why WCIU broadcasts are of poorer quality than CSN and WGN?

QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Feb 9, 2007 -> 06:16 PM) Actually, totally true. If you have fewer people coming, that doesn't mean you are making more money. Boyer's job is to fill the place whether the price of tickets is low or high. Whether the team is good or bad. So, higher ticket prices actually hurt him. That's quite obvious. I contested Steff's point that the increased 2007 ticket prices are a detriment to Boyer by suggesting the price increase will be more profitable than 2006's, based on expected strong 2007 attendance.

QUOTE(Steff @ Feb 9, 2007 -> 06:15 PM) The tickets already sold are to Season ticket holders. We get a discount off the gate price so you are incorrect. And last year's season ticket holders didn't get a discount off gate?

QUOTE(Steff @ Feb 9, 2007 -> 06:03 PM) No. It's just his job to market it. As for his comments, it's his job to get butts in the seats and spending money. The price of the ticket is an obsticle for him as well. Not true, since the Sox will likely make more money on ticket sales in 2007 than in 2006, based on amount of tickets already sold and the $2-3 increase per ticket.

In Uribe's case, it's better to report never than late.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Feb 9, 2007 -> 05:37 PM) What the f*** does Brooks Boyer have to do with the rise in ticket prices? With a marketing title, I wouldn't think Boyer has anything to do with ticket prices, but some of his past comments make me feel like he has a lead voice in that decision. During an interview, Boyer said his job is to get as much money as he can for KW to work with, and IIRC, it was his idea to adjust ticket prices based on opponent, day of the week and month of the year.

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Feb 8, 2007 -> 07:53 PM) Zito turned it around because of Ernest Holmes, not his curveball. http://www.mitchhorowitz.com/barry-zito.html Actually, that's pretty interesting, even if it does prompt a little sarcastic poke. Real good article, IMO. Thanks for sharing that article. Seriously.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Feb 9, 2007 -> 05:24 PM) Get a clue. What do you mean?

And people still love Brooks Boyer.

I'm glad American citizens have the right to not stand for the pledge, but the people whose reason for not standing is to irk those standing are trash.

meh, she looks quite homely in that video.

QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Feb 8, 2007 -> 08:36 AM) What? Not every offseason can bring in Javier Vasquez and Jim Thome (look where that got us...) Hence, some offseasons are better than others. For whatever reasons, this one was not as good as others. QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Feb 8, 2007 -> 08:36 AM) I'm sure you said the same when all we did was bring in some Japanese 2B, an aging starter in El Duque, traded El Caballo for Scotty Pods, and brought in a "nut job" in AJ Pierzynski. You're wrong. QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Feb 8, 2007 -> 11:22 AM) Perhaps you missed the part where they make $20 mill a year and up (except Tejada of course, who is just involved in steroid rumors all the time), and the fact that none of them are even close to Uribe defensively. And if you are actually going to use gold gloves to indicate how good a player is defensively, then you've lost your mind. I use the term "gold-glove caliber" because when used, people instantly equate it with good defense. Derek Jeter isn't half the defensive SS Uribe is. The only real alternative to Uribe this offseason was a similar player in Alex Gonzalez. Did you really want Alex Gonzalez? ...unless of course there were alternatives that you knew of that KW did not No, you didn't. You said: "No, you just don't appreciate a SS that can hit the ball past the pitcher, and you apparently don't appreciate gold glove defense at SS as well. So retro1983hat's post was accurate.

QUOTE(ptatc @ Feb 7, 2007 -> 05:51 PM) That might be because he is no longer among the living. And is playing catch with Jesus But puns with radar and pilot. It's just wrong. So you're saying the impact pun is straight?

I'm still hoping KW signs a veteran. I haven't heard much interest in Cory Lidle, so maybe KW can work under the radar. He could be the impact player to pilot us to the playoffs.

Pretty gay offseason.

I predict BA will be his team's best center fielder for the second consecutive season and teach Guillen a lesson.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Feb 3, 2007 -> 02:35 PM) For? And thanks. For your overall contribution of rational, intelligent Sox discussion; for your analysis of Sox personnel; for your posting style.

I've just discovered this award thread. Had I known about this earlier, I would have definitely nominated some posters for certain categories. I'll make sure to vote. To whoever nominated me for post of the year, thank you. edit: It's a shame santo=dorf wasn't nominated for a category like "best baseballer." I could see him winning a category titled "most independent thinker," or "poster with most supporting evidence." Honorary nomination to beautox and Milkman delivers for a great 2006.