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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jul 11, 2014 -> 04:58 PM) The owners of Hobby Lobby may be substantially burdened in their religious practices by being required to have their for-profit hobby store offer health insurance that covers contraceptives (that they also happen to invest in), but they're all about a mandatory four-year bible course in public schools: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/school-boar...ely-bible-class The curriculum has already been released and absolutely destroyed by scholars. It's basically "Everything in Christianity is true and you should believe it" 101. If it actually makes it into schools, it'll be challenged and lose in court in an instant.

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Jul 10, 2014 -> 09:13 PM) This story right here is what is wrong with American politics in general and liberal politics specifically. This guy should be ashamed of himself. Especially if he has a daughter. But instead, he probably is proud of himself for being a good little liberal warrior. These politics of personal destruction are going to kill us all. You don't have to agree with someone's beliefs, actions, etc., but this constant trying to get people fired or worse is just wrong. Imagine if a Democrat had said this? OMG!!! WAR ON WOMEN!!!! MYSIGNO-WHATEVER-IST!!!! HE SHOULD RESIGN AND LOSE HIS PENSION!!!! Yes, I think this guy probably should resign, but I am not going to start a petition or twitter war about it. If he has no problem trying to get porn about a 17 year old, who knows what he can do. At the very least, I hope his next opponents bring this up at every stop and he never makes it into office. http://freebeacon.com/politics/left-wing-l...ollege-student/ The problem with American politics in general and liberal politics specifically is a troll? He doesn't need to resign because not only is he not in office, he's not even a candidate.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 10, 2014 -> 08:24 PM) Sam Amico @SamAmicoFSO 8m To be more precise, no less than five police officers at LeBron James home. They were told to expect a 3:30 ET announcement. If they're expecting problems, he must be going to Cleveland! omgawd

Brazil isnt even trying

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 7, 2014 -> 09:12 PM) How can anybody dispute the Golden Rule being a bad thing? No one is claiming the Golden Rule is a bad thing, but it's neither unique nor original to any religion, so what's your point? We can promote the Golden Rule without promoting religion.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jun 30, 2014 -> 08:45 PM) Religious nonprofits have the same case pending as Hobby Lobby. The nuns who don't want to have to sign a waiver? Or something else?

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jun 30, 2014 -> 08:15 PM) Quote from Ginsburg saved in order to be shoved back into her face when she inevitably rules against religious institutions when their case hits the Supreme Court. When what case hits the Supreme Court?

They're about giant robots fighting.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 24, 2014 -> 03:29 AM) I know there's freedom of speech, but it's tough sledding when a public figure says they want somebody dead. People say they want murderers or rapists executed all the time. Taking a position (however dumb) on criminalizing something isn't the same as calling for violence against a specific person.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 25, 2014 -> 02:53 PM) Clearly, none of the refs saw it...you almost think with his reputation now, they'll have a camera soon that focuses JUST on him for the entirety of the game, and then report something to the officials down on the field that might have been missed (like in the crowd/scrum on a corner kick), somewhat like the baseball replay system. Why can't they have a booth ref? The games get held up significantly by a dozen players surrounding the officials and arguing anyway, so there's no harm in a guy looking at replays for a minute or two to make an informed call about the foul.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Jun 11, 2014 -> 08:19 PM) Pretty clear to me that he did not say stoning homosexuals was ok or agreeable. ...he said it explicitly. Twice.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jun 9, 2014 -> 10:45 PM) Come on, you guys keep using these terrible analogies to topics that have nothing to do with the origin of man. That's a huge component of what is/is not "religious." The existence of humans is just one of many things that religions often try to explain. A scientific explanation for human existence isn't a religion just because it concerns that topic.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jun 9, 2014 -> 09:12 PM) You're ignoring that people like Dawkins want to change people's minds. It's not just what he personally believes, he's trying to start a movement (and has for a while). That's my point. In that sense, it's just as much of a religion as Christianity. It's going beyond a mere belief into something of a practice based on those beliefs. How does trying to change peoples' minds make it a religion? To use my example earlier. A geologist would surely try to change the minds of the Thor worshippers and get them to accept the scientific explanation for earthquakes in favor of their religious explanation, but that doesn't make the geologist religious himself.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jun 9, 2014 -> 07:41 PM) More or narrower? Religion is a belief in something, and that belief varies from one idea to a structure. Obviously people who follow those beliefs in their daily life think its more important or complex than that, I dont. We were both describing the same thing, despite using words that seem opposed. Everyone holds countless beliefs to varying degrees of certainty. I believe there's some dijon mustard in my fridge. This doesn't constitute a religion.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jun 9, 2014 -> 05:36 PM) LOL, religion is a belief in something, correct? It's more than that. It's an organized collection of beliefs - a system, covering numerous important aspects about the universe and people. It typically appeals to the supernatural and makes positive claims about reality not known by reason or evidence, but by revelation. Most have moral systems, rituals, and guidelines for human living as well.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jun 9, 2014 -> 05:30 PM) I think you're being a bit too restrictive here. I think your position is far too broad. Simply having a position on human origins or any other aspect of reality does not make something a religion. If you think earthquakes are caused by Thor pounding the ground because he's angry at our lack of warrior spirit, and we need make more sacrifices to him to appease him...that's religious. If you think earthquakes are caused by seismic waves due to various events in the Earth's crust...that's not religious, even if the position concerns the same topic the religious belief does.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jun 9, 2014 -> 06:15 PM) Not really, it's still within the realm of the origin/purpose/existence of humanity. Atheism doesn't say a thing about any of those 3 issues. Self-described atheists *tend* to defer to science on the issue of humanity's origins, but science is not a religion either.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jun 9, 2014 -> 05:12 PM) It's a consistently-applied regulation and it cuts down on divorces. Sounds like a win-win. Wouldn't it need very specific criteria to be consistently applied? It certainly can't be only on a judge's whim. You'll have some judges who give a pass to everyone and others who are super strict.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jun 9, 2014 -> 05:07 PM) Or maybe everybody should have to file a petition and have a judge determine that they are fit for marriage. Maybe that cuts down on the divorce rate. It would cut down the divorce rate only because it cut down on the marriage rate.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jun 9, 2014 -> 05:59 PM) A 14 year old can file a legal petition to be emancipated and have his/her case heard by a judge, so individual cases are allowed to be considered rather than making a blanket prohibition that has no flexibility. You can always advocate flexibility within the anti-incest laws if you'd like. Perhaps they can file a similar petition.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jun 9, 2014 -> 05:56 PM) So it's not a subset of people who have specific beliefs about the nature and existence of humanity? Not any more than people who don't believe in ghosts, or those who don't believe in aliens. It's a negative definition that tells us nothing about what those people do believe. They could be naturalists, or spiritualists, or Buddhists, or follow some sort of Pantheism, or Animism. Basically anything if it doesn't involve a god. QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jun 9, 2014 -> 05:56 PM) It doesn't fit the traditional definition involving the worship to God or the supernatural, but it fits pretty squarely with the more modern definition: That's an absurdly broad definition that would include things like supporting gun rights, being strongly pro-choice, or being a White Sox fanatic.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jun 9, 2014 -> 05:52 PM) Incestuous does not automatically mean non-consenting. And some 14-year olds have 10 times the maturity and sense of some 18-year olds. We still allow the latter to do things the former can't. You have to draw lines somewhere, and try to do so in the places where you feel the most good is done.

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Jun 9, 2014 -> 05:44 PM) Good thing he violated the school's No Weapons policy, eh? Pepper spray is against the weapons policy? I'd think that pepper spray or mace would be fairly commonly possessed on college campuses, particularly by female students.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jun 9, 2014 -> 03:35 PM) What nonsense. (1) Atheism is a religion just as much as Christianity is a religion. I hate how Dawkins, et al., always refuse to see that. They don't refuse to see it. It's simply not true.