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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 28, 2015 -> 07:28 AM) And how many of those starts were made by pitchers (with higher ERA's and WHIPs) earning $13 million or more per season? If you were Rick Hahn and you threw that statistic at John Mozeliak and asked what he was willing to offer for Mr. Danks, his response STILL would be how much would you still like to pay for him to pitch for the Cardinals? At any rate, we'll find out exactly how he's perceived around the league in the weeks to come. In all likelihood, guys like Pat Maholm, Aaron Harang, Kyle Lohse or Matt Garza will come into play first. And I would be perfectly content to use Erik Johnson or Montas for the 6-8 starts to bridge us to the end of the season. We are already at 3-4 starts....that gives Rodon something like 18-22, which is quite reasonable. Who cares how much money he is making? IT DOESN'T COME OUT OF YOUR BANK ACCOUNT. The White Sox have a plan for Rodon. And as much as some here think Danks is only in the rotation based on his contract, doesn't it seem a little weird the guy who gets skipped is Noesi? The fact is the starting depth for the White Sox is thin, dumping Danks to save money, and thinning it out even more, makes no sense.

QUOTE (Brian @ Apr 28, 2015 -> 07:15 AM) I don't even think defense is the problem. They've given up 92 and 94 in their two losses. The offense is a mess with the turnovers. How many jump passes in traffic should we throw? How many times can we get stripped dribbling in the lane or trying to split double teams? Yes. At one point DRose and Butler were a combined 10-40 from the field. That's pretty hard to overcome.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 28, 2015 -> 07:19 AM) Yes, I know. That's the only way this trade makes SOME sense for both teams. The White Sox don't absolutely need Danks to compete, whereas the Reds definitely need another starting pitcher. The White Sox do need John Danks or another pitcher. Again, Rodon cannot enter the rotation now and be there at the end of the season. You have to figure some other pitcher will be missing starts, so who do you have? Beck? Please. Montas? Get ready for a walkathon. Johnson? Perhaps, but we also know that could be real bad. As bad as Danks supposedly is, there were over 600 starts made last season by pitchers who had higher ERAs. And at the very least, he is a Royals killer.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 27, 2015 -> 06:19 PM) They've got to plan on Nationals Park unless they're willing to lose all 3 games. National Guard called in so it's likely to get worse before it gets better. I agree. Zero reason to think tomorrow will be better.

I'll show you. I am going to loot and burn down the stores in my neighborhood. I understand the more than likely is a huge problem with the police department, but these thugs aren't the ones who were protesting, they just are the ones taking advantage of the situation and in the long run, when thisr potato chips from CVS are gone, and the bottle of booze from the liquor store they stole are long gone, with these businesses closed, they lose jobs and have no stores to get their things. Idiots.

QUOTE (shipps @ Apr 27, 2015 -> 05:17 PM) I am assuming since they closed the gates that they are cancelling the game then? I think it would be easier to play with a limited crowd.

Play without fans in the stands. The Sox are used to it.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 27, 2015 -> 04:48 PM) The fact he is still with the team. Now you. ARod showed he could contribute in spring training and wasn't the huge distraction many thought he would be.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 27, 2015 -> 04:41 PM) BS. Prove it. LOL Prove yours.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 27, 2015 -> 04:39 PM) He didn't this off season. No but if showed this sprimg he couldn't play, he wouldn't be a Yankee.

QUOTE (LDF @ Apr 27, 2015 -> 04:37 PM) can he make a come back, improve on his stats, then there is the salary. The Marlins will be eating most of the salary, probably close to all but the minimum.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 27, 2015 -> 04:37 PM) Welcome to MLB in 2015. Even the yankees brought back Arod, and there are no deeper pockets in baseball. ARod has 5 homers

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Apr 27, 2015 -> 03:38 PM) John Danks pitched better yesterday than I've seen him pitch in like two years, and he STILL gave up two bombs. He gave up 1 and that was caught in a jetstream. It should have been a routine flyball to RF. But that is a consequence of giving up flyballs at USCF.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 27, 2015 -> 04:00 PM) Odds are that when you push him out to 160 IP he will have some dead arm periods. Odds are also pretty high that Rodon plus a month of [insert AAAA pitcher] is better than a full year of John Danks. If you can get someone to take John Danks off of your hands without you having to pay outrageous amounts of his contract, you do it in a heartbeat. So you are essentially saying that the White Sox would rather lose games than eat John Danks contract. That they really don't think he should be in the rotation but they send him out there every 5th day because they have to pay him a lot of money. If that is true, its pretty damning.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 27, 2015 -> 03:17 PM) Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal 8m8 minutes ago Source: #Rangers’ obligation to Hamilton less than $7M over three years, as was previously reported. Hamilton can opt out after two years… …#Angels obligated to pay entire buyout if Hamilton opts out. Exact dollar figure of buyout not yet known. I think he gets paid $30 million or so the last year. I'm guessing he won't opt out.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 27, 2015 -> 03:19 PM) The difference between John Danks and Carlos Rodon is worth it even if you need a few weeks of another starter, and Salty doesn't rebound. Not to mention it frees up $7 million each season that could be used to bring in another player to help you. The tough part wouldn't be convincing Rick Hahn, it would be convincing Jeff Loria. I would bet anything Hahn wouldn't do that.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 27, 2015 -> 03:13 PM) John Danks hasn't had a "pretty good" season since 2010, and you are looking to make room for Carlos Rodon. It isn't that difficult. Rodon has an innings limit. Then you are stuck, assuming no other injuries with Johnson, Beck or Montas. If you are in contention, that could be a problem. If it were for a player who could help you, fine. But Salty isn't as good as Flowers or Geo.

QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Apr 27, 2015 -> 02:57 PM) Also guilty here. Fooled by his 40 doubles season in Boston. A lot of people were fooled. I think his BABIP was .372 his free agent season. Kind of like Flowers last year.

QUOTE (ewokpelts @ Apr 27, 2015 -> 02:46 PM) The 4/25 postponement will help in the long run. I expect at least 20k, if only for the blanket. And with the 2005 reunion that weekend, you at see more people hitting both games that day. It always amazes me how a cheap blanket draws people. Make up games usually are not well attended. Whatever blankets they have leftover in game 1 they will probably give away game 2. A blanket in July. I hope it's 98 degrees.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 27, 2015 -> 02:49 PM) Something that would almost be too ideal would be a deal with Danks going to Miami, with the Sox picking up no money Why would that be ideal? How is Salty an upgrade? Not only can't he hit, he is regarded as the worst pitch framer in baseball by both methods. Salty isn't good enough to be on the White Sox. I understand saving money, but Danks has been pretty good his last couple starts. The Sox aren't cash starved. No reason to dump a pitcher just to save money.

He is awful. Worst pitch framer in baseball, hits worse than Flowers.

QUOTE (SouthsideDon48 @ Apr 27, 2015 -> 10:56 AM) Ugh, I had a ticket to last saturday's game as well. Now I won't be able to go to the makeup game because it's on a friday. Does anyone know if I can just go to the boxoffice and exchange the april 25 ticket for a ticket to any game between now and the makeup game? Do they always let you get bleacher seats for $10? I think you are SOL with that one.

IMO, Avi has been going backwards defensively since he was acquired. If you remember, the Sox initially thiought he could be a CF. I don't think he's ever going to be good with the glove. Just hope when he screws up it isn't at the worst time.

I think he fans way too much to be much of a major league player. Hopefully he puts up numbers big enough to where the Sox could trade him to a team doing a salary dump willing to take the longshot odds and making it look to their fanbase like they got something pretty legitimate.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 27, 2015 -> 09:45 AM) We win two games against the Royals and now everyone is forced to feel the same thing as other posters? Get real. We're still below .500, and we are still the same organization that has lost 16 of our last 21 to KC and 17 of our last 22 at USCF to KC. I don't remember ever in a million years celebrating this much beating a team in the first half of a season, because the only thing time has proven is that we struggle to beat teams like the Twins, Tigers and Royals in the 2nd half, when the games really matter. Balta's stats are or the ones posted earlier are totally irrelevant? Then aren't we doing exactly the opposite by "overhyping" the same stats after just 20 games played? "fans seem to love to be miserable...not trying to find negatives for every damn thing...there are a couple of people who would like to have the Brewers record" This kind of WSI "group think" is why that website doesn't exist any more, for all intents and purposes. Because posters had the temerity to think for themselves and not act like sheep. We don't need anyone, not even the mods, to tell us how to be a Sox fan or how to go about enjoying the game of baseball. Chisox.com could post 100 Scott Merkin fluff pieces per week, they could have Brooks Boyer and Rongey on the radio 25 times a day saying only positives things and defending the organization, and it probably wouldn't make one iota of difference in terms of attendance or fan support/enthusiasm. If the White Sox want to not be in the bottom 5 teams for all of MLB in attendance, they're going to have to do a lot more than beat the Royals, a team many pundits and prognosticators picked for 3rd or 4th in the AL Central. As a Sox fan, it's okay to disagree as long as you have a well-thought out reason for having your opinion or position. If we're just going to blindly all have the same viewpoint or not even be able to have disagreements without insulting each other at every step, maybe it's better to not post at all. I mean...think about it, if your biggest joy in life is assessing others and how good they are at being White Sox fans, maybe that priority it out of whack and needs to be re-examined. For example, Fathom can also be gloomy or Cubs-centric (and most Sox fans are guilty of this, myself as much as any), but that doesn't mean he's not one of the best and most consistent posters on this board. I would never think he's not one of the best White Sox fans out there. Heck, Marty, even though I disagreed with 98% of what he said, he made you think at least...and defend your beliefs with real evidence/support and not just opinions. Just the fact that many of us spend XX amount of minutes or even hours per day HERE at SoxTalk discussing our favorite team and/or sport should mean we needn't spend wasted time defending our right/s to have an opinion that it's in the minority. I never said you don't have the right to try to find anything wrong with everything, I just wonder why anyone would spend so much time trying to find reasons why you shouldn't be happy with something. Or spend as many hours watching something you refuse to take any joy. Using stats at this point is silly. If you used current stats, you would conclude Adam Lind is a better hitter than Mike Trout. We know that isn't true. With Petricka healthy and Rodon acclimated, Drabek in Charlotte,the White Sox bullpen will be and is as I said nails. Sorry you want to think it sucks. Sorry you now think things take a couple of months to determine.But you are all over the place. You use sample size yet determined the season was over within the first week. Said Cleveland was playing in a possible elimination series this past weekend. Since you counted the White Sox season as over , the cold hard facts are they have been even or better than their rivals despite not hitting or playing particularly well. They are going to hit. The bullpen has taken shape. Q being done appears to have been overstated. Have fun ripping them all you can. I am just going to enjoy them win. If you can't see this bullpen is outstanding, despite where their WHIP ranks, that's too bad as well.