Dick Allen

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 11, 2014 -> 01:21 PM) Putnam is closer to our number 1 setup guy then a last bullpen spot. Putnam was having shoulder issues last year, and didn't pitch for the last couple weeks with no explanation. Considering he came out of nowhere, I really wouldn't count on him in 2015.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 11, 2014 -> 01:28 PM) Actually they often are for such a small thing. They broke up a loud party and found a small amount of weed in a dresser. That kind of thing gets pushed aside, or just a municipal citation, all the time in. Especially in college environments like that. Not saying that didn't play a factor, it might have. Just saying it is commonplace for things like that to get thrown out. The judge cited probable cause issues - why does a loud party justify searching dresser drawers? It likely doesn't, thus it was thrown out. Didn't the cops say they smelled weed? I wonder if the judge is a season ticketholder. Whatever it was, I don't think his status as a player hurt him. You would think this should at least scare him enough so that the neighbors won't have to complain about the noise anymore.

Coop couldn't stand Rienzo's pitching. He probably would have told Hahn he could fix me if it meant he didn't have to work with Andre anymore.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 11, 2014 -> 11:39 AM) And all charges have been dropped While I don't think having weed at your house is a very big deal, and loud music constantly is being an ass , not a criminal, I doubt if it was some Ag student busted, or a walk on, that the charges would be dropped.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 11, 2014 -> 12:24 PM) I'd really rather not trade him for a reliever at this point. Hahn was saying they aren't going to be bringing in any "$20 million a year" guys this year, so if Viciedo is traded, unless they have something else lined-up, it seems to me Ichiro is next since Nightengale said they have already been talking. I'm sure they know what it would take to sign him. One thing you do need at USCF is power. If you have Ichiro in LF, Eaton in CF, Gillaspie at 3B and Micah at 2B, IMO, Hahn is going to have to find someone to hit some HR who can at least split time with Ichiro and be able to play LF when Eaton is sitting down. I know he had a really good year, but I would be really happy if the Sox did something at 3B other than Gillaspie. It is too bad Hahn couldn't have made the Samardzija trade bigger and picked up Donaldson.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 11, 2014 -> 12:20 PM) I have never heard this name before. JJ Cooper ‏@jjcoop36 4m4 minutes ago Royals picking up White Sox Rule 5 pick Jandel Gustave in a trade. Likely for cash. If he sticks could be hardest thrower in their pen. He got the color of the Sox wrong.

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Dec 11, 2014 -> 11:41 AM) Hopefully Jennings. Exactly, but what I am getting at is this, say Jennings doesn't improve vs. LH hitters, and he is warming up in the bullpen, and a righty is on the mound with a LH hitter coming next who really doesn't hit LH pitchers much at all, say Jayson Heyward. Is the manager a fool to bring him in knowing he is not as effective vs. LH hitters, or is it a good move because that is more than offset by the hitter's righty vs. lefty splits? Obviously, it would be ideal to have a lefty who is good vs. LH hitters available, but many times it doesn't work that way.

So a LH pitcher that fares better against RH hitters vs. a LH hitter who can't hit lefties. Who wins? It was pretty obvious Rienzo was on the way out.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 11, 2014 -> 09:54 AM) Wow, I don't where my head is. I keep forgetting about guys. Verlander Price Sanchez Greene Reds Pitcher? Yeah thats pretty good. Their bullpen on the other hand............

QUOTE (shysocks @ Dec 11, 2014 -> 09:25 AM) Seems like he was pretty good in NY. You're gonna have to give me a little more than that. He was awful in NY. The Yankees made him the QO offer because he sucked.

Dowd was saying the Dodgers wanted to get under the luxury tax because they were about to start paying dollar for dollar. How does that work? If they send all the money for Haren and Gordon to Miami, does that count towards their total or not?

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 11, 2014 -> 09:19 AM) No way Tigers take on Scherzer at this point if they are acquiring a Reds pitcher. I would just take the draft pick. Between Miggy and Verlander, I really wonder if the Tigers can take on another 6 or 7 year deal, whether it is Scherzer or Price or if they do get a Reds stud. Eventually, they will have to scale back. Maybe this is just one final shot before going a little cheaper.

I read something yesterday that even though all these guys are in the same place, most trade discussion is still occurring through email and text.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 11, 2014 -> 09:13 AM) Morosi tweeted that Tigers are going to acquire a pitcher from the Reds. Sounds like Mat Latos. My question, who the hell are they going to give up? That should put them in better position to compete with the White Sox.

QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Dec 10, 2014 -> 09:14 PM) No thanks to Ichiro. He actually wouldn't be a bad 4th OF. He is still good defensively, can run, and could come off the bench and still get a hit. But if you are playing him 140 games, i don't think that works anymore.

Nightengale just mentioned the White Sox are thinking about Ichiro.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Dec 10, 2014 -> 07:58 PM) Still don't believe it. Posturing. I think it is on here somewhere, but KW said they had a little more they could spend.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Dec 10, 2014 -> 07:34 PM) The Sox bullpen last year was so bad in a lot of different categories.I don't know where to find bullpen stats but I know they had were worse or near worst in walks allowed , K's and other categories I can't pinpoint .If the new pen can have success in defined roles there should be a big improvement. They lost 7 games when leading going into the 9th. They lost a total of 14 games when leading or tied going into the ninth. A couple of adjustments can make a huge difference.

QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 10, 2014 -> 06:46 PM) I could see the Sox go after Clippard. https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/542837095719383040 His estimated arb figure is $9.3 million.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 10, 2014 -> 03:24 PM) Who put up a worse OPS his last year in Safeco than Ackley did last year. I do think the dimensions were changed a bit, but if you are implying Ackley should be as good as Beltre, Hahn should trade for him.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Dec 10, 2014 -> 02:38 PM) Don't get me wrong, I think their pen is still going to be very good but there are just some guys that can't possibly repeat what they did last season and so much of their success was based on that ridiculous pen. And they barely squeeked into the playoffs and got real lucky they advanced past the WC game, and are losing their ace. They are going to need some guys get a lot better with the bats in 2015 to win as many games.

Kind of surprised at the lull today. I thought it would be rapid fire trading today.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 10, 2014 -> 02:33 PM) maybe a bullpen pitcher. Maybe an OF- right now J Danks makes the roster and it wouldn't take much to do better than that. The Sox won't be able to just reserve a spot for someone they think will be ready in 2 years like they did last year though. I would think if they do pick someone, it would have to be a pitcher.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 10, 2014 -> 02:53 PM) The greatest example of that I can possibly give is Adrian Beltre. Average OPS in Seattle during his 5 year contract was .759, in 2009 his OPS was .683. He went to Boston and Texas and immediately put up a .899 OPS over the next 5 years. There's a good chance that Safeco is the reason why he's not looked at as a sure fire hall of famer right now. So one HOF-calibur player.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 10, 2014 -> 02:41 PM) When he was age 25, he was putting up a .660 OPS in Safeco again during his 2nd big league season following a .622 OPS the previous year. By your standards, a .659 OPS in one year and a .660 OPS the next year is "trending up", so that change for Ackley at the age Viciedo currently is at is an ungodly unbelievably skyrocketing improvement. There is probably about a 90% chance Viciedo isn't the LF for the White Sox on opening day. Hahn mentioned a need to get more athletic, and never mentions him when they talk about the team. Never mentions John Danks either or Hector Noesi. So I don't think he will be counting on them. I just think Viciedo's potential is a better bet than Ackley. Are there examples of guys who were bad for several years in Safeco (before they moved the fences in ) who went on to much better things elsewhere? Keep in mind 2014 Viciedo had a .261 BABIP. That is 30 points below his career, and few more points under what his career BABIP was previously. So he did hit into some bad luck.